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Chapter 330 IT Leaders Summit
Chapter 330 IT Leaders Summit
On the afternoon of March 2010, 3, it was the turn of Li Yanhong and Mahua Teng. The confrontation between Ma Yun and Qu Li in the morning caused bursts of applause. Many people were discussing during lunch. Ma Yun and Qu Li were seen eating together, and some people It is speculated whether the two are going to have a fight.
Well, no one is that boring. Ma Yun and Qu Li's personal relationship is pretty good, and Chen Danlin and his wife are in constant contact.Qu Li's view or perspective on C2C Taobao is very unique. It's not that Ma Yun doesn't know it, but she can't describe it as clearly as Qu Li.
This is normal. If entrepreneurs have a clear understanding of the business they are engaged in at the beginning of their business, they will not take detours. This is a bit like the fog of war. Only when you step out will you know whether there is a way out.
If Taobao wants to make money, it must find ways to make third-party sellers pay, such as increasing transaction commissions on Taobao Mall and increasing various advertising and marketing expenses, such as Taobao Express. If you don’t buy traffic, there will be no users, and you won’t be able to make money. .In a competitive market environment, there is no need to take the initiative at all. Ali only needs to provide marketing tools, and sellers will naturally take the initiative to spend money in order to make more money.
Ah Li's claim that making business easy in the world is a false proposition, just as nonsense as paying first to drive and pay later. It's not that Ma Yun doesn't have this ideological realm, but that he will succumb to reality.
The two chatted, and the most talked about thing was the Honor mobile phone. There were so many people talking, so there was no place to chat. Although Qu Li didn't have many friends, there were so many people who wanted to make friends with him.There are also IDG, Sequoia, Dinghui, and CICC Capital.
There are also people gathered around Lei Jun to understand the situation. The success of Gpad, as long as the sales of the Magic and Mate series of mobile phones are not stretched, will be enough for Honor to become one of the world's top technology companies. The domestic media has made a lot of speculation. The establishment time is too short, and the patent The problem is a fatal flaw.
Qu Li and Lei Jun had the same answer, constantly emphasizing that Honor had obtained a permanent patent authorization from Nortel Networks with a one-time payment, and had also obtained patent authorizations from Warwick, Nokia, and Qualcomm. There was no big problem with the patent issue.
So how to explain Apple’s patent litigation in Japan and Kimchi Country?
"This is a question that Bridges should explain. Why not initiate a lawsuit in the United States!"
Honor has acquired a number of patents from companies such as IDCC (InterDigital), a patent troll in the United States.It is not difficult for Apple to investigate and find out that Honor has the possibility to counter Apple in many countries and regions around the world.Those who are good at fighting have great military exploits. Eliminating crises before they occur is truly remarkable.
Qu Li has always said that he is very lucky, but the people present are all entrepreneurs. Who doesn't know that luck is very important for success in starting a business, but just being lucky is not enough for a junior high school student.
Xiong Ge talked about the past investment in Jumei: "I first heard Qu Li say that venture capital only has money and cannot provide other resources. Don't brag. I didn't expect that Jumei would only let us invest in one round, and Glory would have no chance at all... …”
"Why don't we have a chance? If we are banned from selling in the Japanese and Korean markets, we may have to take root in the country for several years. You still have a chance..." Qu Li said with a smile.
"Then should I look forward to investment opportunities, or should I look forward to no opportunities?" Xiong Ge
"Glory is not afraid of any normal market competition..." Qu Li saw someone passing by and said sternly, not letting rumors spread from his mouth.
After a short lunch and break, it was Baidu's turn to communicate with Goose Factory in the afternoon. I didn't seem to see Ding Lei from Netease Entertainment appear on the scene. Did this guy go to raise pigs?
It was Qu Li and Ma Yun's turn to watch the show in the audience, but no matter how they watched the show, the topics they discussed were inseparable from Jumei and Google, whether it was search, e-commerce, or cloud computing.
Then Li Yanhong said: "To put it bluntly, cloud computing is old wine in new bottles, there is nothing new..."
Mahuateng said: "It may be possible for you to reach Avatar in a few hundred or 1000 years, but it is still too early..."
This is not easy to handle. Jumei is the only one that publicly promotes cloud computing. Ahli is more low-key. I heard that it started working on cloud computing last year.Therefore, the host naturally asked Ma Yun and Qu Li about cloud computing, allowing two people who do not understand technology to talk about technical topics.
Ma Yun said: "After a new thing comes out, we should think carefully and pay attention to it, and there may be some new problems. Our own company is full of confidence and hope in cloud computing... This is what customers need. If we If you don’t do it, you will die in the future.”
It was Qu Li's turn to speak: "I agree with Teacher Ma. Baidu and Echang's cloud computing is a matter of development, while Ali and Jumei's cloud computing is a matter of survival. So I only care about whether this is the right direction. Mr. Ma of Goose Factory said that the goal of cloud computing is to become a public network facility, like water and electricity. Therefore, even if the actual needs of Jumei and Ali are not considered, this matter is correct. It is normal to have difficulties. Only Doing the hard but right things will give us a chance..."
Later, we talked about internationalization. Qu Li did not brag. Among the several big factories, Ali B2B has been doing foreign trade since the beginning. Baidu tried to enter the Japanese market. Currently, only Goose Factory has almost no international business. Xiao Ma Ge is obviously a little bit urgent.
"The internationalization of Jumei is not because we want to go global, we are forced to do so. It was originally for the purpose of going public. If we could not raise money at that time, Jumei might have gone bankrupt during the financial crisis. This time, in order to develop their shopping search, Google At first I wanted to acquire Shopee, but now I'm a little scared, so I almost agreed..." Qu Li started bragging again.
"Why didn't you agree?"
"In order to survive, Taobao has a great advantage in the domestic e-commerce market. If Mr. Ma gets confused and forces third-party sellers to choose between Jumei and Taobao, we are likely to lose a large part of our sellers. Now Jumei is different with Shopee. We have opened up to third-party sellers on the platform to assist them in cross-border e-commerce. As long as the foreign market is attractive enough, they will not give up Jumei..."
"Bah bang bang~~" Applause erupted from the scene. Is this a public fight?
"Then will Ma Yun let Taobao sellers choose one of the two?"
"I think he is unfounded. Ahri's aim is to make it easy to do business in the world..." Ma Yun began to talk in a long way, but no one would really believe what he said in such a scene, right?
Not to be outdone, Qu Li said: "I think peace is a gift not from anyone, just like Honor. Since the success of Honor G1, we have obtained a lot of patent authorization protection, but there have been companies launching patent infringement lawsuits against us. Apple Not the first one, nor the last one. Since we choose to be a business, we cannot place our hopes on the kindness of others, so what Mr. Ma says is his business, and how to do it depends on actual actions..."
"Okay~~"
The confrontation between the two was so scary that it almost overwhelmed the two people on the stage. Qu Li quickly shut up after speaking.
On the afternoon of March 2010, 3, it was the turn of Li Yanhong and Mahua Teng. The confrontation between Ma Yun and Qu Li in the morning caused bursts of applause. Many people were discussing during lunch. Ma Yun and Qu Li were seen eating together, and some people It is speculated whether the two are going to have a fight.
Well, no one is that boring. Ma Yun and Qu Li's personal relationship is pretty good, and Chen Danlin and his wife are in constant contact.Qu Li's view or perspective on C2C Taobao is very unique. It's not that Ma Yun doesn't know it, but she can't describe it as clearly as Qu Li.
This is normal. If entrepreneurs have a clear understanding of the business they are engaged in at the beginning of their business, they will not take detours. This is a bit like the fog of war. Only when you step out will you know whether there is a way out.
If Taobao wants to make money, it must find ways to make third-party sellers pay, such as increasing transaction commissions on Taobao Mall and increasing various advertising and marketing expenses, such as Taobao Express. If you don’t buy traffic, there will be no users, and you won’t be able to make money. .In a competitive market environment, there is no need to take the initiative at all. Ali only needs to provide marketing tools, and sellers will naturally take the initiative to spend money in order to make more money.
Ah Li's claim that making business easy in the world is a false proposition, just as nonsense as paying first to drive and pay later. It's not that Ma Yun doesn't have this ideological realm, but that he will succumb to reality.
The two chatted, and the most talked about thing was the Honor mobile phone. There were so many people talking, so there was no place to chat. Although Qu Li didn't have many friends, there were so many people who wanted to make friends with him.There are also IDG, Sequoia, Dinghui, and CICC Capital.
There are also people gathered around Lei Jun to understand the situation. The success of Gpad, as long as the sales of the Magic and Mate series of mobile phones are not stretched, will be enough for Honor to become one of the world's top technology companies. The domestic media has made a lot of speculation. The establishment time is too short, and the patent The problem is a fatal flaw.
Qu Li and Lei Jun had the same answer, constantly emphasizing that Honor had obtained a permanent patent authorization from Nortel Networks with a one-time payment, and had also obtained patent authorizations from Warwick, Nokia, and Qualcomm. There was no big problem with the patent issue.
So how to explain Apple’s patent litigation in Japan and Kimchi Country?
"This is a question that Bridges should explain. Why not initiate a lawsuit in the United States!"
Honor has acquired a number of patents from companies such as IDCC (InterDigital), a patent troll in the United States.It is not difficult for Apple to investigate and find out that Honor has the possibility to counter Apple in many countries and regions around the world.Those who are good at fighting have great military exploits. Eliminating crises before they occur is truly remarkable.
Qu Li has always said that he is very lucky, but the people present are all entrepreneurs. Who doesn't know that luck is very important for success in starting a business, but just being lucky is not enough for a junior high school student.
Xiong Ge talked about the past investment in Jumei: "I first heard Qu Li say that venture capital only has money and cannot provide other resources. Don't brag. I didn't expect that Jumei would only let us invest in one round, and Glory would have no chance at all... …”
"Why don't we have a chance? If we are banned from selling in the Japanese and Korean markets, we may have to take root in the country for several years. You still have a chance..." Qu Li said with a smile.
"Then should I look forward to investment opportunities, or should I look forward to no opportunities?" Xiong Ge
"Glory is not afraid of any normal market competition..." Qu Li saw someone passing by and said sternly, not letting rumors spread from his mouth.
After a short lunch and break, it was Baidu's turn to communicate with Goose Factory in the afternoon. I didn't seem to see Ding Lei from Netease Entertainment appear on the scene. Did this guy go to raise pigs?
It was Qu Li and Ma Yun's turn to watch the show in the audience, but no matter how they watched the show, the topics they discussed were inseparable from Jumei and Google, whether it was search, e-commerce, or cloud computing.
Then Li Yanhong said: "To put it bluntly, cloud computing is old wine in new bottles, there is nothing new..."
Mahuateng said: "It may be possible for you to reach Avatar in a few hundred or 1000 years, but it is still too early..."
This is not easy to handle. Jumei is the only one that publicly promotes cloud computing. Ahli is more low-key. I heard that it started working on cloud computing last year.Therefore, the host naturally asked Ma Yun and Qu Li about cloud computing, allowing two people who do not understand technology to talk about technical topics.
Ma Yun said: "After a new thing comes out, we should think carefully and pay attention to it, and there may be some new problems. Our own company is full of confidence and hope in cloud computing... This is what customers need. If we If you don’t do it, you will die in the future.”
It was Qu Li's turn to speak: "I agree with Teacher Ma. Baidu and Echang's cloud computing is a matter of development, while Ali and Jumei's cloud computing is a matter of survival. So I only care about whether this is the right direction. Mr. Ma of Goose Factory said that the goal of cloud computing is to become a public network facility, like water and electricity. Therefore, even if the actual needs of Jumei and Ali are not considered, this matter is correct. It is normal to have difficulties. Only Doing the hard but right things will give us a chance..."
Later, we talked about internationalization. Qu Li did not brag. Among the several big factories, Ali B2B has been doing foreign trade since the beginning. Baidu tried to enter the Japanese market. Currently, only Goose Factory has almost no international business. Xiao Ma Ge is obviously a little bit urgent.
"The internationalization of Jumei is not because we want to go global, we are forced to do so. It was originally for the purpose of going public. If we could not raise money at that time, Jumei might have gone bankrupt during the financial crisis. This time, in order to develop their shopping search, Google At first I wanted to acquire Shopee, but now I'm a little scared, so I almost agreed..." Qu Li started bragging again.
"Why didn't you agree?"
"In order to survive, Taobao has a great advantage in the domestic e-commerce market. If Mr. Ma gets confused and forces third-party sellers to choose between Jumei and Taobao, we are likely to lose a large part of our sellers. Now Jumei is different with Shopee. We have opened up to third-party sellers on the platform to assist them in cross-border e-commerce. As long as the foreign market is attractive enough, they will not give up Jumei..."
"Bah bang bang~~" Applause erupted from the scene. Is this a public fight?
"Then will Ma Yun let Taobao sellers choose one of the two?"
"I think he is unfounded. Ahri's aim is to make it easy to do business in the world..." Ma Yun began to talk in a long way, but no one would really believe what he said in such a scene, right?
Not to be outdone, Qu Li said: "I think peace is a gift not from anyone, just like Honor. Since the success of Honor G1, we have obtained a lot of patent authorization protection, but there have been companies launching patent infringement lawsuits against us. Apple Not the first one, nor the last one. Since we choose to be a business, we cannot place our hopes on the kindness of others, so what Mr. Ma says is his business, and how to do it depends on actual actions..."
"Okay~~"
The confrontation between the two was so scary that it almost overwhelmed the two people on the stage. Qu Li quickly shut up after speaking.
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