Rebirth 99 to become a car giant.
Chapter 210 The topic of car building slowly emerges
Chapter 210 The topic of car building slowly emerges
There is no absolute definition of the relationship between OEMs and suppliers.
More often than not, the cooperation between the two parties is a game process.
However, overall, Party A will definitely be stronger and have more initiative.
But during the cooperation between BYD and Nanshan, the situation became even more different.
No wonder Liang Chuanqing has questions.
"If Nanshan really makes cars, it is indeed possible to make them better than us."
Wang Fu didn't stop quibbling because the words didn't sit well with him.
"But I don't think Nanshan will consider building a car in the next five years."
"Their gearbox business is now on track and other parts have opened up the market."
"It can be said that the parts business is Nanshan's main source of profit."
"If they choose to enter the field of vehicle manufacturing, let alone whether they can succeed, the loss alone is not something Nanshan can accept now."
"Think about it, if Nanshan really makes cars, will we still buy engines and gearboxes from them?"
"Whether it's the Great Wall or Chang'an, will they continue to choose to cooperate in depth with Nanshan?"
"Except for a few parts, Nanshan QCD's level far exceeds that of its peers, and people may not give up."
"For most parts, as long as we can find other similar manufacturers, I'm afraid everyone will choose to cooperate with other manufacturers."
"After all, once Nanshan chooses to build cars, various vehicle companies will be very wary of him."
"Especially when their models compete with those of various car companies, this fear will become more serious."
After Wang Fu analyzed this, Liang Chuanqing couldn't help but nodded.
The truth is indeed this truth.
But what if Nanshan’s parts and components are really QCD better than other manufacturers in the industry?
Will everyone give up at that time or not?
Of course, he wouldn't ask directly like this.
Instead, he changed the question and said: "Mr. Wang, from a theoretical point of view, this is indeed the case. But Aisin and Denso are also industries under Toyota Motor, but whether it is Ford, General Motors, or Honda, they are all related to Aisin. The letter or electronic equipment has relatively deep business dealings.”
"If Nanshan can be like Aisin or Denso in the future, wouldn't they also consider building cars?"
Although Liang Chuanqing feels that it is unlikely that Nanshan can achieve the scale of Denso.
But everyone can see the development momentum of Nanshan.
"If they can really achieve that kind of scale, the profits from the parts industry will be enough for them to live well. In fact, whether they can make cars or not is not that important."
"Besides, even if we get to that point, it will be several years later."
"BYD's own engines and gearboxes will definitely have been developed by then."
"We have more options to face future situations."
When Wang Fu said this, Liang Chuanqing naturally couldn't say anything else.
Otherwise, it will become a simple matter of finding trouble.
"Then I will maintain close communication with them during this period, and if problems arise, we will discuss new plans in a timely manner."
……
While BYD's people were discussing today's meeting, a meeting was held within Nanshan immediately after Wang Fu and the others left.
At this time, whether it was Ji Hua or Pan Jinxing, or Zeng Tingting and Luo Hongxing, asking questions was much more straightforward.
After all, if the problem is not raised in time, when the big boss makes a decision, it will be pushed down. If a big problem occurs in the middle, someone will take the blame.
"Mr. Cao, our company still lacks a technical expert who is proficient in engine research and development, and there is no way to coordinate the overall development. This problem needs to be solved as soon as possible."
Ji Hua has been studying gearboxes his whole life.
Although he has a certain understanding of the engine because it matches the engine, he is definitely not able to preside over the development of the engine project.
"It is true that one person needs to coordinate the overall situation, otherwise there will be too many people to coordinate in all aspects, and the advancement efficiency will be very low."
Although Pan Jinxing knows that the engine research and development project has little to do with him, as the company's vice president and the head of the engineering and transformation center, he is still very concerned with the engine project.
"Domestic companies have accumulated relatively little experience in engine research."
"It may not be easy to find an expert who can lead our new project."
Liu Youmei, Minister of Personnel and General Affairs, also stood up to express her opinions at this time.
When the time comes, she will definitely be responsible for the recruitment.
However, this kind of precise recruitment of experts is very difficult to achieve if there is no recommendation and no cooperation from headhunters.
"I do know some people at Ford who are engaged in engine research and development, and some of them are Chinese."
"However, I'm afraid not many are proficient in the overall engine design. Most of them are only involved in the overall testing of the engine and the development of individual parts."
Luo Hongxing, as the vice president of production hired from Ford Motor Company, gave his own one-day proposal.
With Nanshan's current strength, the cost of poaching people is barely affordable.
Even if it means poaching people from the United States.
Of course, individual experts can afford it.
If all employees are paid such high salaries, they will definitely not be able to sustain it.
"Mr. Luo, you can contact the experts you know first to see if they are willing to come."
"In addition, Minister Liu is also trying to contact some managers from companies such as Aerospace Mitsubishi and Dongan Power to see if there are any suitable talents."
"We don't necessarily need experts in engine development. Experts who are proficient in engine assembly and testing are also needed."
"Even if there are people who are proficient in engine structure, assembly and testing, they can basically meet the needs."
"After all, even so-called experts cannot be proficient in every part."
Cao Yang couldn't say that he could become an expert in engines.
After all, this matter is difficult to explain.
"That's true. As long as there are no problems with the structure, all parts are involved, and adjustments are made based on the test conditions, a qualified engine can be produced."
Ji Hua thought about the original development process of the gearbox and felt that what Cao Yang said made sense.
"In terms of theoretical research on engines, the resources of various universities should be relatively sufficient. I think we can also consider how to utilize those resources in this regard."
When Pan Jinxing mentioned this, Cao Yang couldn't help but nodded.
When it comes to theoretical research, various domestic universities are sometimes quite good.
Now I just need a cover so that Nanshan's engine can lead its peers in a more normal and reasonable manner.
"Domestic universities have indeed made some achievements in theoretical research."
"Let's go back and contact Lingnan Institute of Technology, Beijing Institute of Technology and Jida, and set up some joint research projects on engines with each other, and ask them to provide us with theoretical support."
Cao Yang agreed to Pan Jinxing's proposal without any hesitation.
These days, it doesn’t cost much to find universities to engage in theoretical cooperation research.
"In addition, the current situation in Yangcheng is a bit different from previous years. I think everyone has heard some news."
"I am planning to launch a tough engine project in the next six months, and the entire Nanshan Industrial Park will operate in a closed production mode as much as possible."
"We will take advantage of the opportunity to study engines and develop our related equipment."
"For example, various processing machine tools and some assembly equipment, we try our best to implement in-house production to make our engine assembly line the most productive engine line in the country."
"At the same time, the Transmission Division has also begun to consider researching a new generation of 8AT gearboxes, and even theoretical research on 9AT and 10AT can also be carried out."
"In the future, our Nanshan Technology Co., Ltd. will become the parts company with the strongest technical strength in the country."
"I also hope that at this time, all employees can keep up with the company's development as much as possible..."
It is now January 2003, and it is logically feasible to start research on the engine project and engage in a closed-end battle.
Concentrate efforts on big things. The research and production of engines are now a big thing in Nanshan.
Even due to the tight schedule, the engine assembly production line needs to be considered in advance and then adjusted accordingly.
Otherwise, we simply won’t be able to keep up with the large-scale mass production this year.
If it were that easy to study an engine, BYD wouldn't need to come to Nanshan for help.
With so many independent brand car companies in China, there is no need to outsource engines.
"Mr. Cao, if this is the case, the company's investment will be very huge."
"When we have engines and gearboxes, can we consider simply producing our own cars?"
Ji Hua's groundbreaking statement immediately attracted everyone's attention.
Produce your own cars?
This idea seems very attractive.
After all, the popularity of auto parts companies cannot be compared to that of OEMs.
One is TOC and the other is TOB.
Influence is not a level at all.
"Professor Ji, if we directly produce cars, will anyone be willing to buy gearboxes from us in the future?"
"Even if someone buys the gearbox, what about the bearings?"
"What about the other parts that are being studied?"
After hearing this, Zeng Tingting immediately stood up and expressed her opposition.
As the head of the sales department, she absolutely does not support Nanshan's own production of cars.
At least it's not supported now.
Besides, as far as she knows now, except for those joint ventures, most domestic independent brands do not earn as much money as Nanshan every year.
The models produced by independent brands are generally relatively low-end and have very low profit margins.
In this case, it is better to make money by selling parts.
"What Minister Zeng said is indeed a big problem. Our company's parts business has been considered a success."
"But when it comes to making cars, it doesn't mean that the complete vehicle can be sold well if the parts can be made well."
"There are a lot of uncertainties here."
"I think there are already a lot of domestic automobile companies."
"For example, the United States, as the world's largest auto market, has annual sales several times that of China, but its number of car companies is only a fraction of China's."
"In this case, it may not be appropriate for us to choose to produce cars."
"It would be more appropriate to remain a parts giant like Bosch and Magna."
Luo Hongxing also stood up to express his support for Zeng Tingting's opinion.
The things that need to be considered when making a complete vehicle are completely different from those when making parts.
If the parts and components can be produced well, the whole vehicle may not be able to be sold well.
"There is no need to discuss this topic. In the next five years, the company has no plans to produce complete vehicles."
"Everyone just needs to get the parts business done first."
"Revolving around the engine project, each department formed a project team as soon as possible. I personally served as the project leader to get the research and development work started as soon as possible."
Naturally, it is impossible to handle everything in one meeting.
But at least it unified everyone's understanding in the general direction.
The next step is to roll up your sleeves and get to work.
……
Nanshan is recruiting people on a large scale again.
However, this time the recruitment is not fresh college students, but social recruitment.
Basically, as long as your past resume meets the requirements, after two rounds of phone interviews, you will be directly notified of joining.
This speed is definitely extremely exaggerated.
Originally, Cao Yang thought that Nanshan's number of employees would not exceed 2003 until college students joined the company in the summer of 10000.
But this spring, this number easily exceeded.
Nanshan's approach made the headhunters happy.
After all, for some key positions, it is impossible to recruit qualified candidates simply by relying on others to submit resumes.
At this time, the importance of headhunting comes into play.
Headhunters specialize in talent recruitment. They have rich connections and resources and can quickly find talents that meet the requirements of the company.
Compared with self-recruitment, recruiting talents through headhunting can shorten the recruitment cycle, reduce recruitment costs, and improve recruitment efficiency.
And headhunters will provide professional recruitment suggestions and solutions based on the needs and conditions of the company to help companies recruit better.
This time, several headhunting companies that cooperated with Nanshan were really successful.
"Manager Yue, the squad leader and department head of the Aerospace Mitsubishi engine assembly line, if you can recruit me, your salary will be doubled directly."
"We need as many people as we have. In addition, we also need as many technical personnel as are responsible for assembly process design."
Liu Youmei has been crazy busy during this time.
Although some jobs can be arranged for people below to do.
But there are some things that require her to make a decision.
"Bu Liu, do you want people from the engine factories of companies like Yangcheng Honda and Modou Volkswagen?"
Yue Rui has been recruiting personnel in Zhang Luonanshan during this period and is more active than Liu Youmei.
"If you can recruit people from the engine factories of Yangcheng Honda and other OEMs, that would be great."
"It's just that their salary itself is not low. Unless they are really outstanding, we have no way to offer a higher salary than doubling it."
As the Minister of Personnel and General Affairs, Liu Youmei's reduction of personnel recruitment expenses is naturally one of the assessment indicators.
Otherwise, if every position offers an annual salary of one million, why would we still worry about not being able to recruit people?
"I'm going to give it a try."
“Nanshan is booming now, and a lot of people are noticing.”
"For many people, in addition to considering salary, they also consider the company's development prospects."
When Yue Rui said this, Liu Youmei naturally had no objection.
She only cares about the final result.
The charging standard of a headhunting company is determined based on the salary level of the talent position. The higher the position, the higher the charging standard.
Asking a headhunter to recruit a person almost costs the person three to five months' salary, which is not a small amount of money at all.
Let the other person work hard and get used to it.
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There is no absolute definition of the relationship between OEMs and suppliers.
More often than not, the cooperation between the two parties is a game process.
However, overall, Party A will definitely be stronger and have more initiative.
But during the cooperation between BYD and Nanshan, the situation became even more different.
No wonder Liang Chuanqing has questions.
"If Nanshan really makes cars, it is indeed possible to make them better than us."
Wang Fu didn't stop quibbling because the words didn't sit well with him.
"But I don't think Nanshan will consider building a car in the next five years."
"Their gearbox business is now on track and other parts have opened up the market."
"It can be said that the parts business is Nanshan's main source of profit."
"If they choose to enter the field of vehicle manufacturing, let alone whether they can succeed, the loss alone is not something Nanshan can accept now."
"Think about it, if Nanshan really makes cars, will we still buy engines and gearboxes from them?"
"Whether it's the Great Wall or Chang'an, will they continue to choose to cooperate in depth with Nanshan?"
"Except for a few parts, Nanshan QCD's level far exceeds that of its peers, and people may not give up."
"For most parts, as long as we can find other similar manufacturers, I'm afraid everyone will choose to cooperate with other manufacturers."
"After all, once Nanshan chooses to build cars, various vehicle companies will be very wary of him."
"Especially when their models compete with those of various car companies, this fear will become more serious."
After Wang Fu analyzed this, Liang Chuanqing couldn't help but nodded.
The truth is indeed this truth.
But what if Nanshan’s parts and components are really QCD better than other manufacturers in the industry?
Will everyone give up at that time or not?
Of course, he wouldn't ask directly like this.
Instead, he changed the question and said: "Mr. Wang, from a theoretical point of view, this is indeed the case. But Aisin and Denso are also industries under Toyota Motor, but whether it is Ford, General Motors, or Honda, they are all related to Aisin. The letter or electronic equipment has relatively deep business dealings.”
"If Nanshan can be like Aisin or Denso in the future, wouldn't they also consider building cars?"
Although Liang Chuanqing feels that it is unlikely that Nanshan can achieve the scale of Denso.
But everyone can see the development momentum of Nanshan.
"If they can really achieve that kind of scale, the profits from the parts industry will be enough for them to live well. In fact, whether they can make cars or not is not that important."
"Besides, even if we get to that point, it will be several years later."
"BYD's own engines and gearboxes will definitely have been developed by then."
"We have more options to face future situations."
When Wang Fu said this, Liang Chuanqing naturally couldn't say anything else.
Otherwise, it will become a simple matter of finding trouble.
"Then I will maintain close communication with them during this period, and if problems arise, we will discuss new plans in a timely manner."
……
While BYD's people were discussing today's meeting, a meeting was held within Nanshan immediately after Wang Fu and the others left.
At this time, whether it was Ji Hua or Pan Jinxing, or Zeng Tingting and Luo Hongxing, asking questions was much more straightforward.
After all, if the problem is not raised in time, when the big boss makes a decision, it will be pushed down. If a big problem occurs in the middle, someone will take the blame.
"Mr. Cao, our company still lacks a technical expert who is proficient in engine research and development, and there is no way to coordinate the overall development. This problem needs to be solved as soon as possible."
Ji Hua has been studying gearboxes his whole life.
Although he has a certain understanding of the engine because it matches the engine, he is definitely not able to preside over the development of the engine project.
"It is true that one person needs to coordinate the overall situation, otherwise there will be too many people to coordinate in all aspects, and the advancement efficiency will be very low."
Although Pan Jinxing knows that the engine research and development project has little to do with him, as the company's vice president and the head of the engineering and transformation center, he is still very concerned with the engine project.
"Domestic companies have accumulated relatively little experience in engine research."
"It may not be easy to find an expert who can lead our new project."
Liu Youmei, Minister of Personnel and General Affairs, also stood up to express her opinions at this time.
When the time comes, she will definitely be responsible for the recruitment.
However, this kind of precise recruitment of experts is very difficult to achieve if there is no recommendation and no cooperation from headhunters.
"I do know some people at Ford who are engaged in engine research and development, and some of them are Chinese."
"However, I'm afraid not many are proficient in the overall engine design. Most of them are only involved in the overall testing of the engine and the development of individual parts."
Luo Hongxing, as the vice president of production hired from Ford Motor Company, gave his own one-day proposal.
With Nanshan's current strength, the cost of poaching people is barely affordable.
Even if it means poaching people from the United States.
Of course, individual experts can afford it.
If all employees are paid such high salaries, they will definitely not be able to sustain it.
"Mr. Luo, you can contact the experts you know first to see if they are willing to come."
"In addition, Minister Liu is also trying to contact some managers from companies such as Aerospace Mitsubishi and Dongan Power to see if there are any suitable talents."
"We don't necessarily need experts in engine development. Experts who are proficient in engine assembly and testing are also needed."
"Even if there are people who are proficient in engine structure, assembly and testing, they can basically meet the needs."
"After all, even so-called experts cannot be proficient in every part."
Cao Yang couldn't say that he could become an expert in engines.
After all, this matter is difficult to explain.
"That's true. As long as there are no problems with the structure, all parts are involved, and adjustments are made based on the test conditions, a qualified engine can be produced."
Ji Hua thought about the original development process of the gearbox and felt that what Cao Yang said made sense.
"In terms of theoretical research on engines, the resources of various universities should be relatively sufficient. I think we can also consider how to utilize those resources in this regard."
When Pan Jinxing mentioned this, Cao Yang couldn't help but nodded.
When it comes to theoretical research, various domestic universities are sometimes quite good.
Now I just need a cover so that Nanshan's engine can lead its peers in a more normal and reasonable manner.
"Domestic universities have indeed made some achievements in theoretical research."
"Let's go back and contact Lingnan Institute of Technology, Beijing Institute of Technology and Jida, and set up some joint research projects on engines with each other, and ask them to provide us with theoretical support."
Cao Yang agreed to Pan Jinxing's proposal without any hesitation.
These days, it doesn’t cost much to find universities to engage in theoretical cooperation research.
"In addition, the current situation in Yangcheng is a bit different from previous years. I think everyone has heard some news."
"I am planning to launch a tough engine project in the next six months, and the entire Nanshan Industrial Park will operate in a closed production mode as much as possible."
"We will take advantage of the opportunity to study engines and develop our related equipment."
"For example, various processing machine tools and some assembly equipment, we try our best to implement in-house production to make our engine assembly line the most productive engine line in the country."
"At the same time, the Transmission Division has also begun to consider researching a new generation of 8AT gearboxes, and even theoretical research on 9AT and 10AT can also be carried out."
"In the future, our Nanshan Technology Co., Ltd. will become the parts company with the strongest technical strength in the country."
"I also hope that at this time, all employees can keep up with the company's development as much as possible..."
It is now January 2003, and it is logically feasible to start research on the engine project and engage in a closed-end battle.
Concentrate efforts on big things. The research and production of engines are now a big thing in Nanshan.
Even due to the tight schedule, the engine assembly production line needs to be considered in advance and then adjusted accordingly.
Otherwise, we simply won’t be able to keep up with the large-scale mass production this year.
If it were that easy to study an engine, BYD wouldn't need to come to Nanshan for help.
With so many independent brand car companies in China, there is no need to outsource engines.
"Mr. Cao, if this is the case, the company's investment will be very huge."
"When we have engines and gearboxes, can we consider simply producing our own cars?"
Ji Hua's groundbreaking statement immediately attracted everyone's attention.
Produce your own cars?
This idea seems very attractive.
After all, the popularity of auto parts companies cannot be compared to that of OEMs.
One is TOC and the other is TOB.
Influence is not a level at all.
"Professor Ji, if we directly produce cars, will anyone be willing to buy gearboxes from us in the future?"
"Even if someone buys the gearbox, what about the bearings?"
"What about the other parts that are being studied?"
After hearing this, Zeng Tingting immediately stood up and expressed her opposition.
As the head of the sales department, she absolutely does not support Nanshan's own production of cars.
At least it's not supported now.
Besides, as far as she knows now, except for those joint ventures, most domestic independent brands do not earn as much money as Nanshan every year.
The models produced by independent brands are generally relatively low-end and have very low profit margins.
In this case, it is better to make money by selling parts.
"What Minister Zeng said is indeed a big problem. Our company's parts business has been considered a success."
"But when it comes to making cars, it doesn't mean that the complete vehicle can be sold well if the parts can be made well."
"There are a lot of uncertainties here."
"I think there are already a lot of domestic automobile companies."
"For example, the United States, as the world's largest auto market, has annual sales several times that of China, but its number of car companies is only a fraction of China's."
"In this case, it may not be appropriate for us to choose to produce cars."
"It would be more appropriate to remain a parts giant like Bosch and Magna."
Luo Hongxing also stood up to express his support for Zeng Tingting's opinion.
The things that need to be considered when making a complete vehicle are completely different from those when making parts.
If the parts and components can be produced well, the whole vehicle may not be able to be sold well.
"There is no need to discuss this topic. In the next five years, the company has no plans to produce complete vehicles."
"Everyone just needs to get the parts business done first."
"Revolving around the engine project, each department formed a project team as soon as possible. I personally served as the project leader to get the research and development work started as soon as possible."
Naturally, it is impossible to handle everything in one meeting.
But at least it unified everyone's understanding in the general direction.
The next step is to roll up your sleeves and get to work.
……
Nanshan is recruiting people on a large scale again.
However, this time the recruitment is not fresh college students, but social recruitment.
Basically, as long as your past resume meets the requirements, after two rounds of phone interviews, you will be directly notified of joining.
This speed is definitely extremely exaggerated.
Originally, Cao Yang thought that Nanshan's number of employees would not exceed 2003 until college students joined the company in the summer of 10000.
But this spring, this number easily exceeded.
Nanshan's approach made the headhunters happy.
After all, for some key positions, it is impossible to recruit qualified candidates simply by relying on others to submit resumes.
At this time, the importance of headhunting comes into play.
Headhunters specialize in talent recruitment. They have rich connections and resources and can quickly find talents that meet the requirements of the company.
Compared with self-recruitment, recruiting talents through headhunting can shorten the recruitment cycle, reduce recruitment costs, and improve recruitment efficiency.
And headhunters will provide professional recruitment suggestions and solutions based on the needs and conditions of the company to help companies recruit better.
This time, several headhunting companies that cooperated with Nanshan were really successful.
"Manager Yue, the squad leader and department head of the Aerospace Mitsubishi engine assembly line, if you can recruit me, your salary will be doubled directly."
"We need as many people as we have. In addition, we also need as many technical personnel as are responsible for assembly process design."
Liu Youmei has been crazy busy during this time.
Although some jobs can be arranged for people below to do.
But there are some things that require her to make a decision.
"Bu Liu, do you want people from the engine factories of companies like Yangcheng Honda and Modou Volkswagen?"
Yue Rui has been recruiting personnel in Zhang Luonanshan during this period and is more active than Liu Youmei.
"If you can recruit people from the engine factories of Yangcheng Honda and other OEMs, that would be great."
"It's just that their salary itself is not low. Unless they are really outstanding, we have no way to offer a higher salary than doubling it."
As the Minister of Personnel and General Affairs, Liu Youmei's reduction of personnel recruitment expenses is naturally one of the assessment indicators.
Otherwise, if every position offers an annual salary of one million, why would we still worry about not being able to recruit people?
"I'm going to give it a try."
“Nanshan is booming now, and a lot of people are noticing.”
"For many people, in addition to considering salary, they also consider the company's development prospects."
When Yue Rui said this, Liu Youmei naturally had no objection.
She only cares about the final result.
The charging standard of a headhunting company is determined based on the salary level of the talent position. The higher the position, the higher the charging standard.
Asking a headhunter to recruit a person almost costs the person three to five months' salary, which is not a small amount of money at all.
Let the other person work hard and get used to it.
Children's Day, 2000 more words, wish all the older children a happy holiday ~ By the way, please give me a monthly ticket ~
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