Rebirth 99 to become a car giant.
Chapter 208 BYD came to ask for help, an unexpected decision
Chapter 208 BYD comes for help, unexpected decision
China was unable to develop a qualified passenger car engine in its early days due to various reasons.
The first is insufficient technology accumulation.
Engine research and development requires a long period of technical accumulation and experience learning, such as ECU parameter settings. Without sufficient data accumulation, the settings are not good.
However, China lacked sufficient accumulation and experience in engine technology in the early days, so it was difficult to develop qualified engines.
The second is insufficient capital investment.
Engine research and development is a high-risk, high-investment field that requires huge capital investment to promote technological development.
However, domestic investment in engine technology in the early stage was relatively small, and many companies would rather use their limited funds to directly purchase engines than to conduct research and development. As a result, they would naturally not be able to develop qualified engines.
Then there is the lack of talent.
Engine research and development requires high-quality talents. However, the country lacked sufficient investment in talent training in the early stage, resulting in a shortage of excellent talents, which also restricted the development of engine technology.
Of course, backward management is also a reason.
There are many parts involved in the engine, and R&D requires an efficient management system. However, there were many problems in enterprise management in the early days in China, which resulted in backward management levels and affected the engine R&D and production process.
Originally, BYD wanted to break industry conventions and build its own engines.
However, Liang Chuanqing had made it very clear to Wang Fu that this matter would not be settled in a short time.
As a result, BYD doesn't have many choices.
With the idea of treating a dead horse as a living horse doctor, Wang Fu and Liang Chuanqing came to Nanshan.
As strategic partners, it is naturally very simple for Wang Fu and the others to meet Cao Yang.
"Mr. Cao, I'm here to ask you for help today!"
The first thing Wang Fu said when he saw Cao Yang, he stated his purpose straight to the point.
At their level, everyone has a trusting relationship, so there is no need to mince words when speaking.
"Mr. Wang, BYD and Nanshan are strategic partners. If you need help from each other, just ask!"
"As long as Nanshan can help, we will give it our full support."
“If Nanshan can’t handle it now, let’s create conditions to handle it!”
Anyone can say nice things.
Cao Yang is now very familiar with this routine.
He had originally intended to cooperate with BYD to promote Nanshan's various new parts. He naturally hoped that BYD's F6 would be successful.
Wang Fu came to find him, it was just that the F6 project had encountered a problem.
Cao Yang could guess this without asking too much.
"With your words, Mr. Cao, I feel a lot more relieved!"
"To be honest, our F6 model's engine development is seriously behind schedule."
"Although a batch of engine prototypes have been produced, there is still a long way to go before large-scale mass production."
"However, during this process, we also discovered that the parts produced by Nanshan have very excellent performance."
"Whether it's the ECU, the crankshaft bearing, or the starter, no part is out of order."
"I just don't know if Nanshan has any plans to research engines on its own or cooperate with BYD on engine research?"
Wang Fu directly stated his purpose.
BYD is currently unable to handle the engine project and needs cooperation from Nanshan.
This is really a sleepy moment when I hit the pillow.
Nanshan's performance last year was so good entirely due to the gearbox project.
As the most important component of a car, if the engine project can be launched, it may be even more exciting than the gearbox project.
Therefore, Cao Yang is considering setting up a project to develop engines.
I just haven't thought about what kind of engine to build.
"Mr. Wang, you really came to the right place. Nanshan's engine project has just been approved. We are thinking about how to find potential customers to promote its use. I didn't expect that you would have such demand."
Cao Yang does not want to engage in any cooperative research and development with BYD.
If you want an engine, I'll sell it to you.
Of course, he also knew that parts like engines would be produced by each OEM in the future.
How long this money can be earned depends on how advanced Nanshan's engine is.
"Really?"
"Nanshan is already working on the engine?"
Wang Fu was stunned for a moment.
He only heard this news today.
In fact, not only Wang Fu was stunned.
Several other Nanshan executives were also stunned.
When did the company initiate the engine project?
Why don't you know?
Ji Hua, who was very confused, felt that he needed to remind Cao Yang that the engine was not that easy to operate.
"Mr. Wang, Mr. Cao, actually it's not that easy to develop an engine."
"The first is the control of the engine combustion process. This process is an important factor in determining engine performance. Therefore, how to control the combustion process to ensure the normal operation and performance of the engine is one of the important difficulties in engine research and development."
"Other companies have relied on decades of accumulation to achieve what they are today."
"Then there is the control of wear and corrosion. The parts inside the engine need to work in harsh environments such as high temperature, high pressure and corrosion. Therefore, how to control the wear and corrosion of parts is one of the important difficulties in engine research and development."
“This involves the material selection and surface treatment of many parts, and it is not that easy to imitate.”
"Even two parts that look the same have completely different performances."
When Ji Hua said this, Liang Chuanqing, who was sitting opposite, nodded crazily.
He understood this very well.
Some parts are produced after one-to-one high-precision measurement, but the performance is just not up to standard.
The wear resistance is particularly outstanding.
"Then there is the improvement of power transmission efficiency. The power generated by the engine needs to be transmitted to the wheels through the power transmission system. How to improve the power transmission efficiency is one of the important difficulties in engine research and development."
"As for noise reduction and environmental protection, they are now receiving more and more attention."
"The engine will produce noise and exhaust emissions when running. How to reduce noise and achieve environmentally friendly emissions is one of the important difficulties in engine research and development."
"The last thing is cost control. Only when the engines developed are cost competitive can we survive."
"Engine research and development requires a lot of manpower, material and financial resources, so how to control research and development costs is one of the important difficulties in engine research and development."
"I think the engine project still needs to be carefully considered."
Although Ji Hua said this to Wang Fu and Cao Yang, everyone knew that he actually said it to Cao Yang.
"What Professor Ji said is indeed quite reasonable. We didn't say whether the research and development could be successful. We just spent tens of millions, or even hundreds of millions, on molding the various parts of the engine."
"If parts need to be redesigned, it's likely that many molds will have to be re-opened."
"Developing an engine, even if it costs hundreds of millions, may not necessarily lead to success."
Pan Jinxing also added a word beside him.
Although the company's performance last year was very good, it is expected to be even better this year.
But the expenses will also increase.
There are so many machine tools being researched and produced in the equipment center, and the third phase of Nanshan Industrial Park is under construction. Pan Jinxing is also worried that the company's stall will be too big, which will affect the development of existing business.
"Mr. Cao, what Professor Ji and Mr. Pan said all make sense."
"But our situation is actually not that pessimistic."
"For some larger parts, BYD has opened molds and produced samples."
"As long as there are no major changes to the parts, there is no need to open a new mold to adjust some accuracy or material formula."
"We at BYD are also willing to cooperate with Nanshan to carry out this project together."
"Whether it is as a supplier of engine parts or as a partner, it can be discussed."
Liang Chuanqing was afraid that Cao Yang would give up the research and development of the engine project after hearing what Ji Hua and Pan Jinxing said.
He also knows that if Nanshan wants to develop engines, it will definitely not only cooperate with BYD in the future, otherwise the number of units cannot support the development of a large project.
Under such circumstances, Nanshan should not consider cooperating with BYD in this engine research and development.
So he also took a step back and was willing to let BYD serve as a supplier of Nanshan engines to cooperate in the research and development of the engine project.
This is also no way.
Of course, he can accept this plan.
It's because BYD itself has not given up on engine research, it just wants to find a usable engine before its own product is developed.
If Cao Yang still can't agree, then they can only go to Aerospace Mitsubishi or Dongan Power to seek cooperation.
"Mr. Cao, to tell you the truth, I am very optimistic about the F6 project."
"The current appearance of the F6 is also adjusted based on Honda's latest Accord launched overseas."
"When the time comes, monthly sales of over [-] yuan will not be a dream, and it can fully support the development of your company's engine project."
"In addition to the engine and gearbox, there are many other parts of a car that we are working on."
"At present, BYD's own energy is limited, and it doesn't want to simply purchase engines without any features from outside, so it wants to see if there is a better solution here in Nanshan."
Wang Fu added next to him, vaguely reminding everyone that BYD is not without a way out.
I just think the Nanshan road is more suitable.
"Mr. Wang, when is BYD's F6 planned to be launched?"
Cao Yang had the answer in his heart, but there were some things he had to ask clearly.
In case the schedule doesn't match up, it will be embarrassing.
"Originally we wanted to launch it in the middle of this year, but now it seems that it will probably have to wait until the end of this year."
"We have less than a year to make final preparations."
"Taking into account some tests that need to be done before going on the market, a prototype equipped with an engine used in mass production needs to be produced before September this year at the latest."
"Otherwise, the launch will have to be postponed until next year."
Wang Fu looked at Cao Yang expectantly.
When they engaged in automobile projects, they also conducted some research on China's automobile parts industry.
In the whole of China, there is no parts company with a technical level comparable to Nanshan.
"Researching an engine takes a very long time. Even if all the drawings are ready-made, it will take at least two or three months to open the molds for each part."
"Coupled with various tests, it will take less than half a year to assemble a decent sample."
"Although we are currently studying some engine parts, there are many parts involved in an engine, and we have only studied part of it."
"For most parts, there are no ready-made drawings and data for reference."
"Under such circumstances, it should be very difficult to produce an engine that can be mass-produced in September this year."
Ji Hua once again expressed his opinion from the side.
Cao Yang wanted to build an engine, he had already felt it.
Although this is a very big challenge, it is not impossible.
So it’s not good for him to keep opposing it.
But in terms of time, he definitely needs to be reminded.
Otherwise, it would be embarrassing if Cao Yang directly agreed to BYD's schedule.
There must be a lot of pressure from behind.
“In the development of engines, we don’t necessarily have to draw all the parts ourselves.”
"We can make full use of the power of some suppliers and use their standard products. Not only will there be no drawing problems, but a lot of projects can be saved on things like testing."
"Although the schedule is indeed quite busy, it is not impossible at all."
Liang Chuanqing's expression was slightly embarrassed.
He naturally understood what Ji Hua said.
Under normal circumstances, he also felt that it was unreliable for Nanshan to participate in this project.
However, my boss felt that there was room for discussion on this matter.
"Nanshan has been researching engine parts for two years."
"I also have a certain understanding of the working principle of the engine and the requirements of each part."
"Especially during the research process of ECU, a lot of experience has been accumulated."
"During the research on parts such as crankshaft bearings and starters, slow prototypes were arranged for testing."
"So it is not impossible to come up with a mass-produced engine before September and officially enter large-scale mass production by the end of this year."
"However, preparations in all aspects will begin now, including the construction of assembly lines."
"For some large-scale die-casting parts, we need to consider looking for qualified manufacturers from outside in the short term."
"Otherwise, it would be obviously unrealistic to produce all the parts ourselves."
When Cao Yang said this, Wang Fu and Liang Chuanqing both had smiles on their faces.
"Mr. Cao, we have contacted a group of potential suppliers before. We can share this information with Nanshan by then."
"For example, domestic manufacturers are still capable of producing some large-scale die-casting parts."
"As long as we finish the drawings."
Liang Chuanqing provided his assist in a timely manner, alleviating Cao Yang's worries as much as possible.
In the new January, I wish all the children a happy holiday~ By the way, please give me a monthly pass~
China was unable to develop a qualified passenger car engine in its early days due to various reasons.
The first is insufficient technology accumulation.
Engine research and development requires a long period of technical accumulation and experience learning, such as ECU parameter settings. Without sufficient data accumulation, the settings are not good.
However, China lacked sufficient accumulation and experience in engine technology in the early days, so it was difficult to develop qualified engines.
The second is insufficient capital investment.
Engine research and development is a high-risk, high-investment field that requires huge capital investment to promote technological development.
However, domestic investment in engine technology in the early stage was relatively small, and many companies would rather use their limited funds to directly purchase engines than to conduct research and development. As a result, they would naturally not be able to develop qualified engines.
Then there is the lack of talent.
Engine research and development requires high-quality talents. However, the country lacked sufficient investment in talent training in the early stage, resulting in a shortage of excellent talents, which also restricted the development of engine technology.
Of course, backward management is also a reason.
There are many parts involved in the engine, and R&D requires an efficient management system. However, there were many problems in enterprise management in the early days in China, which resulted in backward management levels and affected the engine R&D and production process.
Originally, BYD wanted to break industry conventions and build its own engines.
However, Liang Chuanqing had made it very clear to Wang Fu that this matter would not be settled in a short time.
As a result, BYD doesn't have many choices.
With the idea of treating a dead horse as a living horse doctor, Wang Fu and Liang Chuanqing came to Nanshan.
As strategic partners, it is naturally very simple for Wang Fu and the others to meet Cao Yang.
"Mr. Cao, I'm here to ask you for help today!"
The first thing Wang Fu said when he saw Cao Yang, he stated his purpose straight to the point.
At their level, everyone has a trusting relationship, so there is no need to mince words when speaking.
"Mr. Wang, BYD and Nanshan are strategic partners. If you need help from each other, just ask!"
"As long as Nanshan can help, we will give it our full support."
“If Nanshan can’t handle it now, let’s create conditions to handle it!”
Anyone can say nice things.
Cao Yang is now very familiar with this routine.
He had originally intended to cooperate with BYD to promote Nanshan's various new parts. He naturally hoped that BYD's F6 would be successful.
Wang Fu came to find him, it was just that the F6 project had encountered a problem.
Cao Yang could guess this without asking too much.
"With your words, Mr. Cao, I feel a lot more relieved!"
"To be honest, our F6 model's engine development is seriously behind schedule."
"Although a batch of engine prototypes have been produced, there is still a long way to go before large-scale mass production."
"However, during this process, we also discovered that the parts produced by Nanshan have very excellent performance."
"Whether it's the ECU, the crankshaft bearing, or the starter, no part is out of order."
"I just don't know if Nanshan has any plans to research engines on its own or cooperate with BYD on engine research?"
Wang Fu directly stated his purpose.
BYD is currently unable to handle the engine project and needs cooperation from Nanshan.
This is really a sleepy moment when I hit the pillow.
Nanshan's performance last year was so good entirely due to the gearbox project.
As the most important component of a car, if the engine project can be launched, it may be even more exciting than the gearbox project.
Therefore, Cao Yang is considering setting up a project to develop engines.
I just haven't thought about what kind of engine to build.
"Mr. Wang, you really came to the right place. Nanshan's engine project has just been approved. We are thinking about how to find potential customers to promote its use. I didn't expect that you would have such demand."
Cao Yang does not want to engage in any cooperative research and development with BYD.
If you want an engine, I'll sell it to you.
Of course, he also knew that parts like engines would be produced by each OEM in the future.
How long this money can be earned depends on how advanced Nanshan's engine is.
"Really?"
"Nanshan is already working on the engine?"
Wang Fu was stunned for a moment.
He only heard this news today.
In fact, not only Wang Fu was stunned.
Several other Nanshan executives were also stunned.
When did the company initiate the engine project?
Why don't you know?
Ji Hua, who was very confused, felt that he needed to remind Cao Yang that the engine was not that easy to operate.
"Mr. Wang, Mr. Cao, actually it's not that easy to develop an engine."
"The first is the control of the engine combustion process. This process is an important factor in determining engine performance. Therefore, how to control the combustion process to ensure the normal operation and performance of the engine is one of the important difficulties in engine research and development."
"Other companies have relied on decades of accumulation to achieve what they are today."
"Then there is the control of wear and corrosion. The parts inside the engine need to work in harsh environments such as high temperature, high pressure and corrosion. Therefore, how to control the wear and corrosion of parts is one of the important difficulties in engine research and development."
“This involves the material selection and surface treatment of many parts, and it is not that easy to imitate.”
"Even two parts that look the same have completely different performances."
When Ji Hua said this, Liang Chuanqing, who was sitting opposite, nodded crazily.
He understood this very well.
Some parts are produced after one-to-one high-precision measurement, but the performance is just not up to standard.
The wear resistance is particularly outstanding.
"Then there is the improvement of power transmission efficiency. The power generated by the engine needs to be transmitted to the wheels through the power transmission system. How to improve the power transmission efficiency is one of the important difficulties in engine research and development."
"As for noise reduction and environmental protection, they are now receiving more and more attention."
"The engine will produce noise and exhaust emissions when running. How to reduce noise and achieve environmentally friendly emissions is one of the important difficulties in engine research and development."
"The last thing is cost control. Only when the engines developed are cost competitive can we survive."
"Engine research and development requires a lot of manpower, material and financial resources, so how to control research and development costs is one of the important difficulties in engine research and development."
"I think the engine project still needs to be carefully considered."
Although Ji Hua said this to Wang Fu and Cao Yang, everyone knew that he actually said it to Cao Yang.
"What Professor Ji said is indeed quite reasonable. We didn't say whether the research and development could be successful. We just spent tens of millions, or even hundreds of millions, on molding the various parts of the engine."
"If parts need to be redesigned, it's likely that many molds will have to be re-opened."
"Developing an engine, even if it costs hundreds of millions, may not necessarily lead to success."
Pan Jinxing also added a word beside him.
Although the company's performance last year was very good, it is expected to be even better this year.
But the expenses will also increase.
There are so many machine tools being researched and produced in the equipment center, and the third phase of Nanshan Industrial Park is under construction. Pan Jinxing is also worried that the company's stall will be too big, which will affect the development of existing business.
"Mr. Cao, what Professor Ji and Mr. Pan said all make sense."
"But our situation is actually not that pessimistic."
"For some larger parts, BYD has opened molds and produced samples."
"As long as there are no major changes to the parts, there is no need to open a new mold to adjust some accuracy or material formula."
"We at BYD are also willing to cooperate with Nanshan to carry out this project together."
"Whether it is as a supplier of engine parts or as a partner, it can be discussed."
Liang Chuanqing was afraid that Cao Yang would give up the research and development of the engine project after hearing what Ji Hua and Pan Jinxing said.
He also knows that if Nanshan wants to develop engines, it will definitely not only cooperate with BYD in the future, otherwise the number of units cannot support the development of a large project.
Under such circumstances, Nanshan should not consider cooperating with BYD in this engine research and development.
So he also took a step back and was willing to let BYD serve as a supplier of Nanshan engines to cooperate in the research and development of the engine project.
This is also no way.
Of course, he can accept this plan.
It's because BYD itself has not given up on engine research, it just wants to find a usable engine before its own product is developed.
If Cao Yang still can't agree, then they can only go to Aerospace Mitsubishi or Dongan Power to seek cooperation.
"Mr. Cao, to tell you the truth, I am very optimistic about the F6 project."
"The current appearance of the F6 is also adjusted based on Honda's latest Accord launched overseas."
"When the time comes, monthly sales of over [-] yuan will not be a dream, and it can fully support the development of your company's engine project."
"In addition to the engine and gearbox, there are many other parts of a car that we are working on."
"At present, BYD's own energy is limited, and it doesn't want to simply purchase engines without any features from outside, so it wants to see if there is a better solution here in Nanshan."
Wang Fu added next to him, vaguely reminding everyone that BYD is not without a way out.
I just think the Nanshan road is more suitable.
"Mr. Wang, when is BYD's F6 planned to be launched?"
Cao Yang had the answer in his heart, but there were some things he had to ask clearly.
In case the schedule doesn't match up, it will be embarrassing.
"Originally we wanted to launch it in the middle of this year, but now it seems that it will probably have to wait until the end of this year."
"We have less than a year to make final preparations."
"Taking into account some tests that need to be done before going on the market, a prototype equipped with an engine used in mass production needs to be produced before September this year at the latest."
"Otherwise, the launch will have to be postponed until next year."
Wang Fu looked at Cao Yang expectantly.
When they engaged in automobile projects, they also conducted some research on China's automobile parts industry.
In the whole of China, there is no parts company with a technical level comparable to Nanshan.
"Researching an engine takes a very long time. Even if all the drawings are ready-made, it will take at least two or three months to open the molds for each part."
"Coupled with various tests, it will take less than half a year to assemble a decent sample."
"Although we are currently studying some engine parts, there are many parts involved in an engine, and we have only studied part of it."
"For most parts, there are no ready-made drawings and data for reference."
"Under such circumstances, it should be very difficult to produce an engine that can be mass-produced in September this year."
Ji Hua once again expressed his opinion from the side.
Cao Yang wanted to build an engine, he had already felt it.
Although this is a very big challenge, it is not impossible.
So it’s not good for him to keep opposing it.
But in terms of time, he definitely needs to be reminded.
Otherwise, it would be embarrassing if Cao Yang directly agreed to BYD's schedule.
There must be a lot of pressure from behind.
“In the development of engines, we don’t necessarily have to draw all the parts ourselves.”
"We can make full use of the power of some suppliers and use their standard products. Not only will there be no drawing problems, but a lot of projects can be saved on things like testing."
"Although the schedule is indeed quite busy, it is not impossible at all."
Liang Chuanqing's expression was slightly embarrassed.
He naturally understood what Ji Hua said.
Under normal circumstances, he also felt that it was unreliable for Nanshan to participate in this project.
However, my boss felt that there was room for discussion on this matter.
"Nanshan has been researching engine parts for two years."
"I also have a certain understanding of the working principle of the engine and the requirements of each part."
"Especially during the research process of ECU, a lot of experience has been accumulated."
"During the research on parts such as crankshaft bearings and starters, slow prototypes were arranged for testing."
"So it is not impossible to come up with a mass-produced engine before September and officially enter large-scale mass production by the end of this year."
"However, preparations in all aspects will begin now, including the construction of assembly lines."
"For some large-scale die-casting parts, we need to consider looking for qualified manufacturers from outside in the short term."
"Otherwise, it would be obviously unrealistic to produce all the parts ourselves."
When Cao Yang said this, Wang Fu and Liang Chuanqing both had smiles on their faces.
"Mr. Cao, we have contacted a group of potential suppliers before. We can share this information with Nanshan by then."
"For example, domestic manufacturers are still capable of producing some large-scale die-casting parts."
"As long as we finish the drawings."
Liang Chuanqing provided his assist in a timely manner, alleviating Cao Yang's worries as much as possible.
In the new January, I wish all the children a happy holiday~ By the way, please give me a monthly pass~
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