After dressing up as a demon

The young man was taken aback for a moment, then looked back at Shen Cang.

"What did you say?"

Shen Cang felt that Jiang Yundu's eyes were sharper than ever.

He didn't look at it, but his subordinates exerted a little extra strength to avoid internal troubles if the external troubles were not resolved.

Fortunately, with Jiang Yundu's ingenuity, he quickly realized what he was thinking.

Although the expressionless face was a little more cold, but he was strong and did not push him away.

"You'd better have a reasonable explanation."

Shen Cang heard a cold voice ringing in his ears.

The youth did not notice.

Probably the legendary sound transmission into secrets.

But in any case, willing to cooperate is the first step to success.

Shen Cang looked at the young man: "Senior, do you think men can't have feelings?"

The other party is an old man who has lived for thousands of years, so it is not an exaggeration to call him a senior.

The young man was stunned.

He looked at Shen Cang and Jiang Yundu, the deep disappointment and bitterness faded from his pale face, and instead he showed a playful smile.

"Of course not."

The golden light on the panel was too dazzling, Shen Cang turned off the reminder, and said: "Shen Cang, junior, haven't asked for advice yet?"

He somewhat sorted out the situation at this time.

The figure in front of him looked no different from ordinary people, but under the dim light, there was still a glint of light.It was the deserted and hazy moonlight, which complemented his pale complexion.

There are no caves around.

Thinking of the explosion just now, they should be in a deeper, desolate place.

On the way to Wangyue Mountain, Yin Ning introduced in detail the parting process of a pair of lovers. The name of the heroine is Mingyue.

The identity of this person is self-evident.

The young man didn't answer.

He looked at Jiang Yundu: "Then who is this?"

"My sweetheart." Shen Cang's face remained unchanged, "Jiang Yeqing."

"Sweetie." The young man repeated these three words with great interest, "What kind of sweetheart is it?"

Shen Cang turned to Jiang Yundu and looked at him with a smile: "Of course he is a sweetheart who can entrust my life to me."

This statement is only half false.

Entrusting his life to Jiang Yundu was something he would naturally do in battle.

"Your life depends on you..." The young man didn't know what to think of, and there was deep sadness in his eyes, "What about you?"

He looked at Jiang Yundu.

Jiang Yundu's hand behind his back slowly grasped the string of beads in his palm.

He is not as thick-skinned as Shen Cang, who can speak nonsense at will.

"He—" Shen Cang planned to do it for him.

"No." The young man shook his head, interrupted Shen Cang, walked back to where he appeared, and said to Jiang Yundu, "I want to hear from you."

The smile on Shen Cang's lips deepened.

Before Jiang Yundu found out, he restrained himself a little, and tapped his fingertips on Jiang Yundu's shoulder: "Ye Qing, senior wants to ask you."

Jiang Yundu looked at him with a strong warning in his eyes.

Shen Cang raised his eyebrows: "Say it."

Jiang Yundu said coldly: "Me too."

Shen Cang raised his fist and coughed, covering the unconcealable smile on his lips.

The young man still shook his head: "You don't look like lovers."

"That's because Ye Qing has been arguing with me recently." Shen Cang looked at Jiang Yundu and asked with a smile, "Really, Ye Qing?"

Jiang Yundu's voice became colder: "Don't push yourself too hard."

"Understood, it's all up to you." Shen Cang let go of him, picked up the clothes he had just taken off from the ground, and put them on his body casually.

The young man seemed to have noticed this, and asked, "Why are you topless?"

Shen Cang paused for a moment while arranging the girdle, and looked at him with a half-smile: "Senior, there is no need to explain some things too clearly, right?"

Consciously hearing the deep meaning in Shen Cang's words, a slight color of blood appeared on the young man's pale face, and his expression was a little unnatural.

"My name is Meng Ziyun." He looked away, and finally introduced himself, "At your age, you probably haven't heard of me. I've been here for a long time, and I can't remember how many years."

Judging by his appearance, he is still looking forward to his sweetheart's change of heart.

In Yin Ning's version, his sweetheart has already passed away thousands of years ago.

Shen Cang decided not to touch his sad things for the sake of the unfinished exercises.

But Meng Ziyun seemed to be completely convinced by what he said just now, and he also completely opened up the conversation.

With no one to chat with for thousands of years, Meng Ziyun's desire to confide is unprecedentedly high.

Shen Cang was forced to listen to the love story between him and Mingyue again.

Different from Yin Ning's conjecture with both voice and emotion, Meng Ziyun's narration is more personal.

Apart from the summary of the previous story, Meng Ziyun is very stubborn that he just made a mistake that can be made up for, and Mingyue's departure without looking back was a kind of deep harm to him at that time.

"I told her I was just waiting here until she figured it out. But she never came back."

He smiled wryly, "At first I didn't want to break my oath, but later on, I guess I didn't dare to go out, and didn't dare to face a bright moon who no longer loves me."

Shen Cang was silent for a moment: "Maybe there is some misunderstanding."

Meng Ziyun looked up at the faint moonlight coming through the gap, his eyes were clear: "No need to comfort me, the years in the mountains are long enough for me to figure it out."

Jiang Yundu's eyes were calm and did not show any impatience.

The love and hatred of others has nothing to do with him, if Shen Cang hadn't behaved abnormally, he would have left long ago.

Shen Cang could also see his mood, and was about to probe further, when Meng Ziyun suddenly changed the subject on his own initiative.

"But meeting you today gave me a good opportunity."

Shen Cang asked casually, "What chance?"

Meng Ziyun pondered for a long time, and asked first: "Can you do me a favor? If you agree, I can give you a gift. One for each, as long as it is from this secret realm."

This is what Shen Cang wanted.

The whereabouts of the Phoenix Blood Grass was led by Yin Ning. He no longer needed other things in the secret realm, only the fragments of the exercises, which were the only rewards he needed.

He and Jiang Yundu looked at each other.

The impatience in Jiang Yundu's eyes finally melted away: "Anything?"

Meng Ziyun nodded: "I have traveled all over this secret place, and I can point out the direction for you what you want."

Jiang Yundu said, "What if I'm not here anymore?"

Meng Ziyun said with a smile: "It can only be said that you have nothing to do with this thing. Do you want to gamble?"

"Okay." Jiang Yundu said calmly, "I'll take a bet with you."

Compared to searching aimlessly in the Wangyue Cave, it is worthwhile to confirm whether Dan Fang is there or not.

Meng Ziyun asked: "So, tell me, what do you want?"

Jiang Yundu didn't hesitate: "Unfeeling Pill Formula."

Hearing this name, Meng Ziyun's face changed slightly: "What did you say!"

From the name, Shen Cang could tell that this and Danfang could not be something beneficial to the relationship, and worried that this lover who was troubled by love would go back on his word, so he took a step forward.

"Senior, don't worry too much, the Unfeeling Pill is not used on us. We are just entrusted by others." Shen Cang said, motioning Jiang Yundu to cooperate, "Is that right, Ye Qing?"

Meng Ziyun looked at Jiang Yundu suspiciously.

"Yes." Jiang Yundu said.

He doesn't need to take the Unfeeling Pill.

Shen Cang is not a disciple of Qing Lianzong, nor a woman, and has nothing to do with Qingjie, so naturally it is the same.

Still frowning, Meng Ziyun looked at Shen Cang again: "What about you, what do you want?"

His tone was no longer as polite as before, but rather blunt.

Shen Cang sighed secretly.

But it's hard to get over the water, and he can't influence Jiang Yundu to stop him from asking what he wants.After all, the condition for completing the helping mission is the two of them. Without Jiang Yundu, there might not even be a chance to trigger it.

What's more, what he wants may be a little too much.

"Your technique." Shen Cang didn't beat around the bush.

However, just as he expected, Meng Ziyun's expression turned ugly when he heard this request.

"My technique?" Meng Ziyun's clear eyes flashed with anger, "Idiots talking about dreams!"

When the words fell, he didn't give Shen Cang a chance to make amends, so he swung his sleeves violently!

Shen Cang only felt a blur in front of his eyes, and he returned from the dim cave to the previous simple cave.

The dazzling sunlight from above made his eyes used to the darkness a little stinging. He raised his hand to block it, and turned around to see that the stone bed behind him had been torn apart, revealing a deep hole.

"What does he mean?"

Hearing Jiang Yundu's voice, Shen Cang turned to look at him.

He stood where the stone table was originally placed.The stone table was probably blown away by the explosion just now, lying in the corner by the wall.

Jiang Yundu asked again: "Do you want to go down and have a look?"

Shen Cang said, "No need."

Jiang Yundu frowned: "Why?"

Shen Cang paused, unavoidably surprised: "Because he might not still be there."

Meng Ziyun has lived here for thousands of years, and it is easy to avoid being discovered.

Since the other party didn't want to see them again, how could they stay where they were and wait for them to come.

That unfeeling formula is so important to Jiang Yundu?He was so anxious that he couldn't even understand such a simple truth.

"Then what do we do now?"

Shen Cang is taking off the jacket he just put on for the second time: "Go on, what else can I do."

The golden light that triggered the quest just now is gone, and it has angered the quest target. His fragments may not be so easy to get.

Instead of wasting time here, heal your wounds first.

"This, don't rush."

Shen Cang stopped unbuttoning his front lapel.

Jiang Yundu's tone was abnormal, dry and tense, completely different from his usual cold and hard temper.

He looked over in a blink of an eye: "What's the matter with you?"

Jiang Yundu frowned: "What?"

Shen Cang turned to ask: "Why are you in no hurry? Isn't that why we came here."

It was Jiang Yundu who took the initiative to come to heal his injuries, and now it was Jiang Yundu who was delaying time.

"I..." Jiang Yundu frowned deeper, "I'm not very comfortable."

Hearing this, Shen Cang also frowned slightly: "Uncomfortable?"

He walked over, "Where is it uncomfortable? Do you need a pill, I have a gathering pill here."

Jiang Yundu shook his head, as if he was ashamed to speak: "After coming out, don't you feel hot?"

hot?

Hearing what he said, Shen Cang only realized later that a strange heat was circulating in his body.

This situation is not very good.

"It's so hot..." Jiang Yundu took a step forward, raised his hand to hold Shen Cang's arm, "Did Meng Ziyun do something?"

Shen Cang glanced at his movements with his downcast eyes, his eyebrows raised slightly.

Jiang Yundu pursed his thin, dry lips, breathing heavily: "Think of a way!"

Shen Cang had no choice but to temporarily suppress the sudden strangeness, and try to solve it: "Try to adjust your breath?"

Jiang Yundu closed his eyes and did as he did.

But then, he frowned, groaned, and held Shen Cang's hand suddenly hard.

Shen Cang asked: "How is it?"

Jiang Yundu opened his eyes and looked at him with anger: "It's not good!"

"Don't worry, calm down." Shen Cang said, opening the package.

There are still two detoxification pills left.

He tried it with one pill first.like water off a duck's back.

Jiang Yundu's breathing became heavier.

The breath adjustment just now seemed to make him unable to control himself, he staggered a step forward, raised his arms around Shen Cang's back, his voice seemed indistinct.

"help me……"

"What?" Shen Cang turned his face slightly, looking at the face lying on his shoulder, the strange feeling in his heart couldn't be shaken off.

Jiang Yundu's sword-holding hand had slender fingers and well-defined joints. At this time, it was like a swimming snake rubbing the front of the cloth and slipping into his chest——

Shen Cang's eyelids twitched, and he held down his wrist.

"help me……"

The situation has become completely clear.

Shen Cang threw "Jiang Yundu" in front of him aside, and looked around: "Senior, such a joke is not funny."

The voice fell.

"Jiang Yundu" standing aside slowly turned back into a stone.

The next moment, the surrounding scene also returned to the dim cave.

The figure of Meng Ziyun has been standing in place without moving.

"Can you see through my vision?" he asked.

Shen Cang said: "I can't."

Meng Ziyun couldn't help being curious: "Then how did you find out?"

Shen Cang chuckled: "He is not such a person."

If it was Jiang Yundu, after he got the trick, it would be impossible to ask him to help him, let alone show such a gesture to him, even if he died of desire.

There is only one explanation.That's not Jiang Yundu.

It's a pity that Jiang Yundu couldn't see the illusion just now, otherwise he believed that the other party's expression would be wonderful.

Meng Ziyun sighed: "I see, you know him very well."

Shen Cang looked around: "Where are the others?"

Meng Ziyun smiled mysteriously: "He hasn't seen it yet."

Jiang Yundu is also in the illusion?

Shen Cang looked back at Meng Ziyun.

The other party has closed his eyes, and there is a golden light floating in front of the hands holding the magic formula. The ringtone in the golden light is melodious and distant, and it can be vaguely seen that it is a magic weapon.

Shen Cang looked away.

pity.

This time, it was a pity that he couldn't see the scene in Jiang Yundu's illusion.

I don't know if Meng Ziyun used the same illusion for them.

If so, then Jiang Yundu's expression must be very exciting.

But Meng Ziyun didn't speak anymore, and Shen Cang didn't ask again.

With the other party's strong desire to confide, when he wants to say something, he doesn't need him to speak, and he will explain everything clearly.

a long time.

Shen Cang hadn't knocked all the experience pills in the package, when he heard a piercing sword cry from the right!

A chilling and chilling atmosphere spread in the cave in an instant!

This is not considered an attack, the passive skill of Shen Cang's kung fu has already taken effect.

The transparent shield opened in front of him, blocking the aftermath of the impact.

Meng Ziyun also exclaimed, and quickly dodged to avoid the unstoppable sword!

Jiang Yundu's figure appeared in the cave the next moment.

He didn't need Meng Ziyun to take the initiative to stop.

This sword pierced through the illusion, and it is still coming fiercely!

In front of him, another "Shen Cang" whose head was separated, slowly changed back to its original shape until this moment.

The stone also "clicked" and split in two.

Seeing this scene, Shen Cang touched his neck, and the back of his neck felt faintly cold.

Meng Ziyun yelled while avoiding: "This is what I want you to help!"

In order to get the skill that is about to be obtained, Shen Cang also stepped forward to persuade him: "The matter is over, why don't you listen to what he has to say?"

Jiang Yundu glanced at him, his eyes mixed with ice and snow.

Shen Cang raised his sword to block, and reminded: "I am not an illusion."

"boom--"

Jiang Yundu's sword finally fell to the ground, shaking the cave violently, and the gravel rolled down.

Meng Ziyun pinched his sleeves and wiped the unnecessary sweat from his forehead, heaved a sigh of relief: "It's my fault, I did it without your consent, but if you know about it, it will be meaningless."

Jiang Yundu was angry, Shen Cang didn't bother him, but asked, "What do you mean?"

Meng Ziyun looked up at the moonlight that he had been chasing for thousands of years.

"Back then, Mingyue and I were drugged here. Afterwards, I was naturally full of regret and just wanted to make amends, but she blamed me for not having enough concentration and never sincerely respecting her, so I couldn't bear the momentary desire." He sighed, The tone was lonely, "After seeing you, I realized that I was wrong."

Shen Cang remained silent about this.

Regardless of the right or wrong of their experiences, he and Jiang Yundu's ability to "endure momentary desires" must have nothing to do with concentration.

Fortunately, Meng Ziyun didn't express too much emotion on this matter.

After getting the result, he seemed much depressed, but he still kept his word.

"My technique." He flipped his hand and handed Shen Cang a jade slip, "That's fine. I thought that the Genshan scroll handed down by my ancestors would be buried here with me, and you would take it away, so I would be spared." mortal sin."

Shen Cang raised his hand to take it: "Thank you."

A reminder immediately popped up on the panel.

[The exercise "Genshan Juan" has been detected, do you want to learn it? 】

Shen Cang chose yes.

A ray of light emerged from the jade slip and entered his dantian.

The exercises change accordingly.

The original basic attributes are increased by 50% as usual, and the earth attribute attack and defense are added, each increased by 300%.

There was no special effect, and the other two didn't notice it.

Meng Ziyun was saying to Jiang Yundu: "Follow it, and you will find the unfeeling pill."

A spirit crane the size of a thumb flew out of his hand and swooped in front of Jiang Yundu.

Jiang Yundu's face turned pale, but his tone was still cold: "Thank you."

After delivering the two promised gifts, Meng Ziyun pursed his lips and struggled for a while, before finally asking.

"You guys are from outside the secret realm, have you heard about Mingyue?"

Shen Cang could tell that this was what he wanted to ask from the beginning of the meeting.

But the reality is definitely not the answer he expected.

"I've heard of it." Shen Cang told him selectively, "She founded a sect called Jiyue Mansion. It's just outside the secret realm."

Meng Ziyun's eyes flickered slightly.

"Jiyue Mansion." He paused every word, whispered the name, his eyes were moist under the quiet moonlight, "I see...has Mingyue forgiven me already?"

The spiritual light emitted by the crane condensed in the corners of his eyes and slowly slid down.

Silence waited in the cave for a while.

Meng Ziyun wanted to say too much, but swallowed it down.

"Is she doing well?" he simply asked.

Shen Cang hesitated briefly.

"Good day." He replied.

"That's fine."

A long sigh of relief sounded from the cave.

Meng Ziyun's figure disappeared quietly.

The bright sunlight poured in at the same time, dazzlingly bright.

"Benefactor!" Yin Ning's voice jumped up abruptly, "You finally appeared!"

Meng Ziyun didn't know Yin Ning's existence, so it shouldn't be an illusion.

To avoid accidents, Shen Cang looked at Jiang Yundu and confirmed with him: "Are you okay?"

Jiang Yundu looked at him coldly, and swept away the messy rubble in the cave with his sleeves, without saying a word.

That's right.

This time it is true.

Shen Cang turned to Yin Ning: "What happened just now?"

Yin Ning looked scared: "I just walked to the door and heard that there was an explosion inside. After I came back, I didn't see my benefactor and Brother Jiang, so I went down to look for it..."

Shen Cang asked: "What's down there?"

Yin Ning swallowed: "Come with me!"

She walked to the hole blasted on the stone bed and flew down.

Shen Cang and Jiang Yundu landed beside her one after another.

This is the cave where they met Meng Ziyun, but it is also under the sun, not so dark.

"Look at this!"

Shen Cang looked along where her finger was.

It is a dry bone.

It sat leaning against the wall, raised its head, and looked at the direction of the sky with empty eye sockets.

In the bone of its hand that rests on its leg, it holds an exquisite ball made of gold silk, shining faintly.

"Huh?" Yin Ning blinked, "The ball was very bright just now! The ball was still ringing non-stop, I was a little scared, so I went up. Oh, you don't know——"

Shen Cang listened to her detailed report, and decided to tell her when they parted, that this dead bone was the sweetheart of her ancestors.

Back beside the stone bed, Shen Cang looked at Jiang Yundu when Yin Ning was resting: "Continue?"

"Continue to what?" Yin Ning asked, "I—"

"Get out." Jiang Yundu said.

Yin Ning was choked by the saliva, did not dare to refute, turned and left silently.

Shen Cang untied his girdle for the third time, and Jiang Yundu's voice came from behind him.

"No need."

Shen Cang looked back at him: "Are you sure?"

"Ah."

To save trouble, Shen Cang didn't insist, turned around and sat down opposite him.

Jiang Yundu didn't say a word of pleasantries.

"Bao Yuan Shou Yi. Close your eyes."

Shen Cang originally planned to share his travel experience in the illusion, but from his unfriendly tone, he knew that this is not a good time, so he followed his advice.

But this time the healing took much longer than before.Also very twists and turns.

"Open your eyes."

Shen Cang frowned and looked at him: "Are you sure you didn't take revenge for selfishness?"

The burning pain in the meridian is burning.

In this way of healing, the reduced magic energy will probably be added to internal injuries.

Jiang Yundu paused for a while, and said in a low voice, "I can't see where the devilish energy in your body is going, that's all I can do."

"Then why don't you read it?"

Shen Cang didn't expect that an illusion would have such a big impact on Jiang Yundu, "You said it would take half a month to heal, and you will torture me like this for the remaining ten days?"

Jiang Yundu had already got up and did not answer.

Shen Cang walked to his side, before the sword was put on, the sword had already flown.

"..." Shen Cang had no choice but to withdraw his good mood from watching the theater.

Meng Ziyun's bad move caused him to lose his exclusive driver.

Shen Cang Yujian returned to the outside of the cave, and heard Yin Ning asking cautiously.

"Brother Jiang, why isn't your benefactor with you?"

Jiang Yundu's consciousness had already sensed Shen Cang's approach, and he raised his hands to ride the wind.

Shen Cang flew to his side: "Do you know the word venting anger?"

Jiang Yundu finally opened his mouth lightly: "If you keep making noise, I will kill you."

"Kill me? Are you willing?" Meeting his gaze, Shen Cang said leisurely, "I'll help you get the pill recipe, so you repay me like this?"

Jiang Yundu's breathing was slightly heavy, and the jade bead in his palm burst open.

There was a slight mark between his eyebrows, and the flying sword suddenly accelerated.

Yin Ning hurriedly followed: "Brother Jiang, you're going the wrong way!"

Hearing this, Shen Cang looked at the crane who was leading the way for Jiang Yundu: "You want to find Danfang first?"

"Ah."

Shen Cang added: "The pill recipe I got for you?"

Jiang Yundu closed his eyes, his usual indifferent face finally darkened slightly: "What exactly do you want?"

"What exactly do you want?" Shen Cang returned behind him with a natural expression, "It's just an illusion, and it's worth your fuss."

When mentioning the illusion, the marks between Jiang Yundu's brows deepened.

Seeing this, Shen Cang turned to say: "Look at the road, it's going down."

Jiang Yundu came back to his senses, he recovered the broken jade beads, and the Yujian sank.

As for Shen Cang behind him.

Thinking of him, Jiang Yundu's fingers tightened.As long as the demon energy is cleared, it can be sent back to Xiaodongtian, which is nothing to worry about.

Shen Cang didn't know what Jiang Yundu thought.

With a driver, he didn't care where Jiang Yundu went first.

But when the guiding crane finally stopped in front of a very inconspicuous grotto, it was already dark.

Shen Cang and Jiang Yundu went in side by side along the narrow passage, and saw a wall filled with jade slips inside the grotto.

"Here." Shen Cang appraised one by one, found the compartment where the elixir was stored, and took it down casually.

When Jiang Yundu walked over, eight small characters appeared on the wall.

"The origin of the relationship is deep, and the relationship of one thought dies."

Shen Cang handed over the pill formula.

Jiang Yundu turned his gaze from Jinzi to him.

Shen Cang didn't pay attention to Danfang's comment, and was looking at another compartment, continuing the appraisal.

Jiang Yundu just took it from him.

Shen Cang took a step to the side.

Most of the jade slips on the wall are pill recipes, and a small part are skills. The only thing they have in common is that they are of a high level, which he cannot learn or take away.Fortunately, it can be seen from Jiang Yundu's dismissive attitude that, except for the Ruanqing Danfang, they are all tasteless.

However, in a dusty corner, he identified a level 45 disposable item.

[Shrink the ground into an inch: random teleport to a radius of 1000 meters]

It's a life-saving tool.

Shen Cang took the package unceremoniously.

Yin Ning was also flipping through the pages, and asked them, "Are you still looking for Phoenix Blood Grass now?"

When it was time for healing at night, Shen Cang said, "Go out and wait for us first."

Hearing this familiar sentence, Yin Ning peeked over from the corner of her eye: "Are you going to do something shameful again?"

But there was an experience before, she didn't dare to bother Jiang Yundu to speak in person, put down the jade slip after speaking, and walked out the door with a smile.

Jiang Yundu didn't look at her, he just took out the Sanmo Pill and sat on the ground.

Shen Cang said, "I'm going to take off my clothes."

Jiang Yundu frowned.

As soon as he got the pill he wanted, Shen Cang was convinced that he was in a better mood now, for the sake of his health, he took off his outer robe and top before he could refuse.

Sure enough, Jiang Yundu didn't stop him.

Shen Cang sat down opposite him.

Jiang Yundu lowered his eyes, and pointed to draw a pill from the mouth of the bottle.

"Close your eyes."

Before starting, Shen Cang used his good mood to satisfy his curiosity: "In the illusion, how do you know it's not me?"

Jiang Yundu raised his eyes.

Shen Cang said: "I have no other intentions, just want to know, are you afraid of killing the wrong one?"

He would like to ask other details.

The problem was that Jiang Yundu would never say anything.

"Jade pendant."

Shen Cang was stunned.

Jiang Yundu's jade pendant was hanging around his waist. Meng Ziyun must have noticed this jade pendant, but he didn't spend too much time in transforming it, causing a slight omission.

Thinking of this, Shen Cang's curiosity deepened.

The meaning of Meng Ziyun has shown that the two scenes of illusion have the same theme.

Since Jiang Yundu saw something wrong from the jade pendant, why did he stay in the illusion longer than him.

Is it...

Shen Cang thought uncertainly.

No way.

Could it be that in Jiang Yundu's eyes, he was the kind of person who would strike at the slightest disagreement?