[Henry VIII] Tudor Crown
Chapter 129
Taking advantage of the time when Miss Elizabeth arrived at the Whitehall Palace, Queen Juana chatted with William III about Miss Elizabeth's wedding treatment: "How much dowry do you plan to give Liz?"
In the sixteenth century, raising a girl was a huge expense, not only did you have to pay for her upbringing, but you also had to pay a large dowry when she married.
Of course, if your married daughter is lucky enough to survive until her husband's family becomes extinct or her in-laws are a powerful nobleman far superior to yours, then you may get a rich income or even a large piece of land through your weak in-law relationship.
William III remembered that William the Conqueror in history successfully hooked up with Edward the Confessor through his aunt and grandmother, and thus obtained the promise to inherit England.And the last queen of Henry VIII who was not lost by the river crab in history-Catherine Parr, also got quite a lot of property from many marriages, and after her death, her younger brother inherited it.
William III had thought about Miss Elizabeth's dowry as early as Henry VIII's death.
Because Henry VIII never recognized Miss Elizabeth's princess status, she is still an illegitimate daughter with the right to inherit the throne legally.Not to mention that the Earl of Morley in Scotland is not a king or a nobleman at all, so Miss Elizabeth will definitely not get the same marriage treatment as Princess Mary.
Not to mention Queen Juana, or Catherine of Aragon.
William III originally planned to equalize the marriage of the Countess of Sully and Nottingham, but the reality made him hesitate for a while on the marriage of Miss Elizabeth.
"To be honest, I'm still hesitating whether to marry Liz or not." William III didn't hide from Queen Juana, and directly said what was in his heart: "It is true that Liz can help me stabilize Scotland. However, when Liz was canonized as Countess of Surrey, her father gave her two manors and a piece of land.
"And that's where it gets stuck.
Queen Juana understood in seconds: "You are worried that the descendants of Liz and Earl Murray will inherit this part of the land, and then attack the throne of England."
"Yes." William III replied very straightforwardly: "Although it is a bit selfish to say so, I really don't want to marry off the land of England. I can even understand the practices of France and Spain a little bit."
After all, if the two countries marry princesses, unless they are heiresses, don't try to take advantage of it.
Whether it was Princess Madeleine (the original wife of James V) married by Francois I, or Maria Theresa, the wife of Louis XIV, they all gave up the right to inherit the throne of their country at the moment of marriage, and their parents It is better to discount the dowry in cash than dowry the land.
The princess' dowry may have been paid in installments had it been put on hold in difficult economic times.
Catherine of Aragon, the mother of William III, was unable to get her due dowry for a long time because of the death of Isabella of Castile.As for the wife of the Sun King Louis XIV, it took two years of fierce diplomatic battles to force Spain to honor part of the dowry.
In contrast, Princess Mary's marriage treatment is definitely better than most princesses in Europe.
Although Henry VIII did not give his eldest daughter dowry land, but there are a lot of things that should be there, and they are paid in one lump sum.
This flattered the Principality of Lorraine, who was ready to take only half of the dowry.Even before Princess Mary married, Henry VIII did not force Princess Mary to give up the right to inherit the throne, but only adjusted her order of succession.
If Miss Elizabeth were to marry the Earl of Morley of Scotland, the first thing to discuss was whether to retain her right to succession to the throne.
After all, Princess Mary’s jewels are in front of her, and William III will not deprive Miss Elizabeth of her right to inherit the throne—anyway, there are the Duke of Richmond, Duke of York, Countess of Nottingham, Princess Mary, and Ann, Duke of Lorraine in front of her. Dongwan William de Lorraine, and Princess Mary's unborn second child.
William III felt that he should not be as miserable as his grandfather's family, so he let the Habsburg family take advantage of it.
So the question now is whether to include the land in Miss Elizabeth's dowry.
As Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sir Cecil supported the Protestant Earl of Morley, but for the sake of the stability of the royal family, he still suggested that William III should not include the land in the dowry of the Countess of Surrey.It even shamelessly stated that Henry VIII had never signed the transfer documents of the manor and land (compared with the treatment of William as Prince of Wales, he is really a scumbag), but only verbally stated that these two places belonged to the Countess of Surrey .So from a legal point of view, the Countess of Surrey, like Anne of Cleves, only has the right to use the manor and land, and cannot pass it on to her legal heir.
Queen Juana felt that this decision was excessive from an emotional point of view, but from a rational point of view, it was a necessary measure.
"Maybe you can hand over this issue to Earl Morrie." Queen Juana had an idea: "Why don't you buy a piece of land in Scotland for Liz? If you don't use the land in England as a dowry, then pay more in cash. Not a problem at all."
"However, before Mary and Alexander of Scotland got married, Liz married abroad after all. Instead of marrying off the land of her own country, it is better to buy another property for her in Scotland." Queen Juana analyzed: "Anyway, Earl Morley's The ambition is only at the level of regent for Mary Stuart. With the Earl of Allen and Stuart's collaterals, he will not be able to ascend the throne of Scotland in his life. And Liz's succession is too dependent After that, Earl Murray could not take advantage of the opportunity to take the position."
"Compared to scattered land, it is better to manage it under the nose." Queen Juana said here, and gave an example: "After all, the Habsburg family's land is too scattered, so it is difficult to govern. Make it harder."
"The question is, will anyone in Scotland really sell land?" William III doubted: "Especially if an English ruler buys Scottish land, no matter how you think about it, it will make people think that I am going to do something to Scotland. .”
"That's why you have to hand over this matter to Earl Mori." Queen Juana said slyly: "After all, no one will accuse a husband of buying land for his wife. As long as you are willing to pay, Earl Mori will mind this trouble? As for Can you buy land... Anyway, there are many Scottish nobles who died in the Battle of Solway Fjord. The Earls of Angus and Earl of Allen can't do anything with these unclaimed lands returned to the royal family. It's better to sell them directly To make a fortune."
Even from the source, William III bought Mary Stuart's land, so it will be returned to England's treasury one day.
It can be described as treacherous to the extreme.
In the sixteenth century, raising a girl was a huge expense, not only did you have to pay for her upbringing, but you also had to pay a large dowry when she married.
Of course, if your married daughter is lucky enough to survive until her husband's family becomes extinct or her in-laws are a powerful nobleman far superior to yours, then you may get a rich income or even a large piece of land through your weak in-law relationship.
William III remembered that William the Conqueror in history successfully hooked up with Edward the Confessor through his aunt and grandmother, and thus obtained the promise to inherit England.And the last queen of Henry VIII who was not lost by the river crab in history-Catherine Parr, also got quite a lot of property from many marriages, and after her death, her younger brother inherited it.
William III had thought about Miss Elizabeth's dowry as early as Henry VIII's death.
Because Henry VIII never recognized Miss Elizabeth's princess status, she is still an illegitimate daughter with the right to inherit the throne legally.Not to mention that the Earl of Morley in Scotland is not a king or a nobleman at all, so Miss Elizabeth will definitely not get the same marriage treatment as Princess Mary.
Not to mention Queen Juana, or Catherine of Aragon.
William III originally planned to equalize the marriage of the Countess of Sully and Nottingham, but the reality made him hesitate for a while on the marriage of Miss Elizabeth.
"To be honest, I'm still hesitating whether to marry Liz or not." William III didn't hide from Queen Juana, and directly said what was in his heart: "It is true that Liz can help me stabilize Scotland. However, when Liz was canonized as Countess of Surrey, her father gave her two manors and a piece of land.
"And that's where it gets stuck.
Queen Juana understood in seconds: "You are worried that the descendants of Liz and Earl Murray will inherit this part of the land, and then attack the throne of England."
"Yes." William III replied very straightforwardly: "Although it is a bit selfish to say so, I really don't want to marry off the land of England. I can even understand the practices of France and Spain a little bit."
After all, if the two countries marry princesses, unless they are heiresses, don't try to take advantage of it.
Whether it was Princess Madeleine (the original wife of James V) married by Francois I, or Maria Theresa, the wife of Louis XIV, they all gave up the right to inherit the throne of their country at the moment of marriage, and their parents It is better to discount the dowry in cash than dowry the land.
The princess' dowry may have been paid in installments had it been put on hold in difficult economic times.
Catherine of Aragon, the mother of William III, was unable to get her due dowry for a long time because of the death of Isabella of Castile.As for the wife of the Sun King Louis XIV, it took two years of fierce diplomatic battles to force Spain to honor part of the dowry.
In contrast, Princess Mary's marriage treatment is definitely better than most princesses in Europe.
Although Henry VIII did not give his eldest daughter dowry land, but there are a lot of things that should be there, and they are paid in one lump sum.
This flattered the Principality of Lorraine, who was ready to take only half of the dowry.Even before Princess Mary married, Henry VIII did not force Princess Mary to give up the right to inherit the throne, but only adjusted her order of succession.
If Miss Elizabeth were to marry the Earl of Morley of Scotland, the first thing to discuss was whether to retain her right to succession to the throne.
After all, Princess Mary’s jewels are in front of her, and William III will not deprive Miss Elizabeth of her right to inherit the throne—anyway, there are the Duke of Richmond, Duke of York, Countess of Nottingham, Princess Mary, and Ann, Duke of Lorraine in front of her. Dongwan William de Lorraine, and Princess Mary's unborn second child.
William III felt that he should not be as miserable as his grandfather's family, so he let the Habsburg family take advantage of it.
So the question now is whether to include the land in Miss Elizabeth's dowry.
As Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sir Cecil supported the Protestant Earl of Morley, but for the sake of the stability of the royal family, he still suggested that William III should not include the land in the dowry of the Countess of Surrey.It even shamelessly stated that Henry VIII had never signed the transfer documents of the manor and land (compared with the treatment of William as Prince of Wales, he is really a scumbag), but only verbally stated that these two places belonged to the Countess of Surrey .So from a legal point of view, the Countess of Surrey, like Anne of Cleves, only has the right to use the manor and land, and cannot pass it on to her legal heir.
Queen Juana felt that this decision was excessive from an emotional point of view, but from a rational point of view, it was a necessary measure.
"Maybe you can hand over this issue to Earl Morrie." Queen Juana had an idea: "Why don't you buy a piece of land in Scotland for Liz? If you don't use the land in England as a dowry, then pay more in cash. Not a problem at all."
"However, before Mary and Alexander of Scotland got married, Liz married abroad after all. Instead of marrying off the land of her own country, it is better to buy another property for her in Scotland." Queen Juana analyzed: "Anyway, Earl Morley's The ambition is only at the level of regent for Mary Stuart. With the Earl of Allen and Stuart's collaterals, he will not be able to ascend the throne of Scotland in his life. And Liz's succession is too dependent After that, Earl Murray could not take advantage of the opportunity to take the position."
"Compared to scattered land, it is better to manage it under the nose." Queen Juana said here, and gave an example: "After all, the Habsburg family's land is too scattered, so it is difficult to govern. Make it harder."
"The question is, will anyone in Scotland really sell land?" William III doubted: "Especially if an English ruler buys Scottish land, no matter how you think about it, it will make people think that I am going to do something to Scotland. .”
"That's why you have to hand over this matter to Earl Mori." Queen Juana said slyly: "After all, no one will accuse a husband of buying land for his wife. As long as you are willing to pay, Earl Mori will mind this trouble? As for Can you buy land... Anyway, there are many Scottish nobles who died in the Battle of Solway Fjord. The Earls of Angus and Earl of Allen can't do anything with these unclaimed lands returned to the royal family. It's better to sell them directly To make a fortune."
Even from the source, William III bought Mary Stuart's land, so it will be returned to England's treasury one day.
It can be described as treacherous to the extreme.
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