Difficult office romance
Chapter 60 Experience
Without directly answering this question directly, Ke Ran asked rather puzzled: "What's the use of us discussing this now?"
After such a long speech, Yan Lieqi was still drinking water, and Cen Jing explained: "We have to use the defendant's special mentality in court to achieve the defense effect we want to pursue."
"Oh." Ke Ran nodded.
Which one is Sun Youde?
Want to live or want to die?
After bowing his head and thinking for a long time, Ke Ran raised his head and looked at Cen Jing and Yan Lieqi, "I don't think he is either."
Hearing this sentence, Cen Jing and Yan Lieqi looked at each other.
"How?" Cen Jing asked.
I don't know why, but I just don't think he belongs to the two, Ke Ran thought.
But obviously he couldn't just say it irresponsibly. After thinking about it, Ke Ran decided to speak according to his own feelings. He only hoped that the other two lawyers could understand.
"When we met for the first time, Sun Youde gave me the feeling that he was very mature and experienced. Sometimes his calmness beyond ordinary people often means that this person has a desire to survive beyond ordinary people. This is well reflected in Sun Youde. , at least he speaks every word with discretion, and he is not even willing to say a word when facing a lawyer. If I were asked this question at that time, I would choose the first one. Although he is very calm, he is under pressure. There is bound to be an explosion, and the unfamiliar court trial scene is likely to become a crime."
Yan Lieqi had no contact with Sun Youde in the early stage, but a large part of his impression of Sun Youde was calm, far surpassing all the death row prisoners he had seen, not to mention that Sun Youde was the first time that Sun Youde was coerced by criminals. measure.According to Ke Ran's statement, Sun Youde is indeed very likely to be the first type, and he nodded.
But it was obvious that Ke Ran hadn't finished speaking, "And then? How did your opinion change?" Yan Lieqi asked.
Cen Jing also looked at Ke Ran seriously, Ke Ran seemed to be thinking more and deeper than he expected.
Although Ke Ran still had resentment towards Cen Jing for forcing him to participate in this discussion, he knew that it depended on the occasion, and as the discussion progressed, he gradually forgot that he was having a conflict with Cen Jing.
"Yes." Ke Ran nodded and said, "Later, we talked about the people around Sun Youde in the meeting. It is worth affirming that he is affectionate and righteous to the people around him. It is one thing not to betray his brother. Being filial to one’s mother is the second, loving and raising the daughter seriously is the third, and being unwilling to drag down the ex-wife is the fourth. What impresses me even more is that even in the detention center, he is willing to give others the respect they deserve. Logically speaking, like A suspect like him doesn’t have to follow the rules completely, but he did.”
Ke Ran turned his gaze out of the window and said, "Not only did he obey, but he also gave convenience to other people as much as possible. To be honest, such a person...isn't like a bad person, but like an honest and good citizen who obeys the rules."
After listening to Yan Lieqi, he didn't seem to believe that Sun Youde still had such a great "goodwill". It is common to talk about loyalty and filial piety. He did have similar feelings towards Sun Youde, but what Ke Ran said... ...is he too "good guy"?
Turning to look at Cen Jing, Sun Youde asked uncertainly, "Sun Youde is still so civic-minded?"
What Ke Ran said was what Cen Jing heard and saw with his own eyes, and it was these things that made Ke Ran's feelings about this case more and more complicated. Sometimes he would rather Sun Youde was a mature and experienced criminal who did not recognize his relatives, maybe Ke Ran's problem can be exposed a little later...
Maybe he could keep Ke Ran under his wing for a little longer.
Cen Jing won't judge whether Sun Youde has a sense of public morality, but——
"What Ke Ran described is true."
Cen Jing looked at Yan Lieqi and said.
To this he can give an affirmative answer.
"Because he doesn't feel like a vicious person to you, so you don't think he belongs to one of these two?"
Seeing Ke Ran looking out the window, Cen Jing asked with disapproval in his tone.
Why is there a pimple on Ke Ran's chin, he hasn't slept in the past two days, okay?
Did you sleep alone and play with your phone until midnight?
Why don't you listen?
It's his birthday, and Lawyer Cen actually deserted the meeting.
Ke Ran turned his head just in time to meet Cen Jing's disapproving gaze, he froze for a moment, a little puzzled.
I just know that my point of view is naive and unprofessional, but why are you being so obvious?
That's what you want to ask me too.
He shook his head at Cen Jing and said, "No. If he was just like what I just said, I think he would be the second type. Since Sun Youde is so 'kind', then guilt and remorse must have been rooted in his heart , as long as it is slightly enlarged under the right circumstances, then he will completely think that he deserves to die, and desperately hopes that he can die immediately. Life has become a burden on his conscience. And the scene of the trial That is the most appropriate scenario to drive this change."
"good."
Yan Lieqi once again agreed with Ke Ran's point of view.
If this is Sun Youde's true character, then it is very likely that he will be completely negative in court.
In the next few meetings, Sun Youde, who became more and more silent, gave Yan Lieqi a very uneasy feeling.
But he clearly remembered that Ke Ran didn't agree with either of them at first.
"Then you just...?"
Yan Lieqi asked suspiciously.
Cen Jing also frowned and looked at Ke Ran.
"I haven't finished talking yet?"
Ke Ran shrugged, pursed his mouth, his eyes wandered around the office, as if he was looking for something.
Cen Jing stood up with his cup, stood beside Ke Ran, and handed it to him.
"Drink mine, you didn't bring a cup when you came in just now."
It was only then that Ke Ran realized that his search for a long time was in vain.
He reached out to take the cup that Cen Jing handed over, took a sip and was about to continue, when Yan Lieqi said with a smile: "I still said what are you looking for, it's your master who responds quickly."
Ke Ran and Cen Jing fell silent at the same time...
Fortunately, Yan Lieqi is a little older and doesn't know anything about this...
This is not the reaction a master should have.
"But now I feel that my previous cognition was wrong."
With a light cough, Ke Ran spoke.
Break the weird atmosphere in the office.
"Sun Youde is not a 'good man', he is just himself, and everything he does is just what he wants to do."
Cen Jing didn't speak, and rubbed his chin as if thinking about something.
"What do you mean?" Sun Youde asked.
"Whether it's seasoned and calm, malicious and decisive, or filial piety and loyalty, as well as the respect for others and obeying the rules I mentioned before, are all our definitions for him. But he is just following his own current thoughts. Just do it. If Sun Youde's current state is as you said, silent and unable to cheer up, then this is also a direct and true reflection of his current heart-I just don't want to talk, and I'm too lazy to struggle."
Sighing, Ke Ran said: "So I say he is neither. He is not the kind of person whose personality can be solidified by our experience, not even the search and defendant. In other words, they are all based on You are doing things with your own set of worldviews, and you don’t have mind reading skills, how can you guess what he will want to do in court?"
After Ke Ran finished speaking, he looked at Yan Lieqi, who had a serious expression on his face.
Then he raised his head to look at Cen Jing who was standing beside him, Cen Jing's expression was not much better.
What I... just said seems to be too much?
I don't go to court, so my back hurts when I stand and talk?
Ke Ran felt guilty belatedly.
Swallowing saliva without a trace, he said, "But I don't think he will do anything unexpected in court. Every time I communicate with him, he always gives me the feeling of 'OK, I Recognized 'such...'
Of the two, Cen Jing was the first to adjust, "What you said makes sense..."
Ke Ran didn't dare to speak casually anymore, he was afraid that if he spoke, he would push the atmosphere to an even weirder place.
Yan Lieqi also nodded, "Indeed, what Ke Ran said is quite right. Now it seems that I am too sticking to the old point of view. Not every case can be judged by experience."
That's right, Ke Ran agrees with Yan Lieqi's words in his heart.
Experience cannot be generalized.
It is true that experience can make one thing more effective, but some people in modern society, especially successful people, have unconsciously deified the word experience.Because at a certain period they have relied on experience to achieve success, they think that experience can be the key to all the doors of success.
He nodded involuntarily.
"It seems that we should listen to the advice of young lawyers in the future, and support each other so that we can achieve each other."
Seeing Ke Ran nodding, Yan Lieqi said with a smile.
Ke Ran was a little swollen by what he said, and he was not ready to speak just now, he opened up the chatterbox again, "I also think that some 'experience talks' that have been widely circulated can actually be completely invalidated. Now the speed of information update is getting faster and faster. Faster and faster, things a year ago are now considered 'outdated', not to mention the experience of dealing with people. People's hearts have changed much faster than other things."
With one sentence, the old lawyers' faces were completely slapped.
Fortunately, Yan Lieqi has a good personality and doesn't care about him.
"The two categories of death row prisoners mentioned today, I feel—"
But Cen Jing couldn't listen anymore.
Cen Jing knew that Ke Ran had a slightly reckless character, so naturally he wouldn't take it to heart, and although he looked at Yan Lieqi like this and smiled with a good temper, as the oldest lawyer among the three, he couldn't help but feel that he still had a bad temper. will be uncomfortable.
It's not enough to hate Ke Ran for such a trivial matter, but there will inevitably be a layer of estrangement in his heart. If Ke Ran asks about other cases in the future, he may not want to talk to Ke Ran more.
After all, you said "experience is useless" at the beginning.
For Ke Ran's future interpersonal communication and professional development, Cen Jing had to interrupt Ke Ran.
He touched Ke Ran's back without any trace, and said, "Okay, I'll almost stop talking about this." Then he looked at Yan Lieqi, "Then we'll play it by ear in court, and I agree with what Ke Ran said, Sun You There will be no unexpected moves."
"Okay." Yan Lieqi readily agreed, picked up his notebook, "Then I'll go to work first, there is another case waiting over there."
After such a long speech, Yan Lieqi was still drinking water, and Cen Jing explained: "We have to use the defendant's special mentality in court to achieve the defense effect we want to pursue."
"Oh." Ke Ran nodded.
Which one is Sun Youde?
Want to live or want to die?
After bowing his head and thinking for a long time, Ke Ran raised his head and looked at Cen Jing and Yan Lieqi, "I don't think he is either."
Hearing this sentence, Cen Jing and Yan Lieqi looked at each other.
"How?" Cen Jing asked.
I don't know why, but I just don't think he belongs to the two, Ke Ran thought.
But obviously he couldn't just say it irresponsibly. After thinking about it, Ke Ran decided to speak according to his own feelings. He only hoped that the other two lawyers could understand.
"When we met for the first time, Sun Youde gave me the feeling that he was very mature and experienced. Sometimes his calmness beyond ordinary people often means that this person has a desire to survive beyond ordinary people. This is well reflected in Sun Youde. , at least he speaks every word with discretion, and he is not even willing to say a word when facing a lawyer. If I were asked this question at that time, I would choose the first one. Although he is very calm, he is under pressure. There is bound to be an explosion, and the unfamiliar court trial scene is likely to become a crime."
Yan Lieqi had no contact with Sun Youde in the early stage, but a large part of his impression of Sun Youde was calm, far surpassing all the death row prisoners he had seen, not to mention that Sun Youde was the first time that Sun Youde was coerced by criminals. measure.According to Ke Ran's statement, Sun Youde is indeed very likely to be the first type, and he nodded.
But it was obvious that Ke Ran hadn't finished speaking, "And then? How did your opinion change?" Yan Lieqi asked.
Cen Jing also looked at Ke Ran seriously, Ke Ran seemed to be thinking more and deeper than he expected.
Although Ke Ran still had resentment towards Cen Jing for forcing him to participate in this discussion, he knew that it depended on the occasion, and as the discussion progressed, he gradually forgot that he was having a conflict with Cen Jing.
"Yes." Ke Ran nodded and said, "Later, we talked about the people around Sun Youde in the meeting. It is worth affirming that he is affectionate and righteous to the people around him. It is one thing not to betray his brother. Being filial to one’s mother is the second, loving and raising the daughter seriously is the third, and being unwilling to drag down the ex-wife is the fourth. What impresses me even more is that even in the detention center, he is willing to give others the respect they deserve. Logically speaking, like A suspect like him doesn’t have to follow the rules completely, but he did.”
Ke Ran turned his gaze out of the window and said, "Not only did he obey, but he also gave convenience to other people as much as possible. To be honest, such a person...isn't like a bad person, but like an honest and good citizen who obeys the rules."
After listening to Yan Lieqi, he didn't seem to believe that Sun Youde still had such a great "goodwill". It is common to talk about loyalty and filial piety. He did have similar feelings towards Sun Youde, but what Ke Ran said... ...is he too "good guy"?
Turning to look at Cen Jing, Sun Youde asked uncertainly, "Sun Youde is still so civic-minded?"
What Ke Ran said was what Cen Jing heard and saw with his own eyes, and it was these things that made Ke Ran's feelings about this case more and more complicated. Sometimes he would rather Sun Youde was a mature and experienced criminal who did not recognize his relatives, maybe Ke Ran's problem can be exposed a little later...
Maybe he could keep Ke Ran under his wing for a little longer.
Cen Jing won't judge whether Sun Youde has a sense of public morality, but——
"What Ke Ran described is true."
Cen Jing looked at Yan Lieqi and said.
To this he can give an affirmative answer.
"Because he doesn't feel like a vicious person to you, so you don't think he belongs to one of these two?"
Seeing Ke Ran looking out the window, Cen Jing asked with disapproval in his tone.
Why is there a pimple on Ke Ran's chin, he hasn't slept in the past two days, okay?
Did you sleep alone and play with your phone until midnight?
Why don't you listen?
It's his birthday, and Lawyer Cen actually deserted the meeting.
Ke Ran turned his head just in time to meet Cen Jing's disapproving gaze, he froze for a moment, a little puzzled.
I just know that my point of view is naive and unprofessional, but why are you being so obvious?
That's what you want to ask me too.
He shook his head at Cen Jing and said, "No. If he was just like what I just said, I think he would be the second type. Since Sun Youde is so 'kind', then guilt and remorse must have been rooted in his heart , as long as it is slightly enlarged under the right circumstances, then he will completely think that he deserves to die, and desperately hopes that he can die immediately. Life has become a burden on his conscience. And the scene of the trial That is the most appropriate scenario to drive this change."
"good."
Yan Lieqi once again agreed with Ke Ran's point of view.
If this is Sun Youde's true character, then it is very likely that he will be completely negative in court.
In the next few meetings, Sun Youde, who became more and more silent, gave Yan Lieqi a very uneasy feeling.
But he clearly remembered that Ke Ran didn't agree with either of them at first.
"Then you just...?"
Yan Lieqi asked suspiciously.
Cen Jing also frowned and looked at Ke Ran.
"I haven't finished talking yet?"
Ke Ran shrugged, pursed his mouth, his eyes wandered around the office, as if he was looking for something.
Cen Jing stood up with his cup, stood beside Ke Ran, and handed it to him.
"Drink mine, you didn't bring a cup when you came in just now."
It was only then that Ke Ran realized that his search for a long time was in vain.
He reached out to take the cup that Cen Jing handed over, took a sip and was about to continue, when Yan Lieqi said with a smile: "I still said what are you looking for, it's your master who responds quickly."
Ke Ran and Cen Jing fell silent at the same time...
Fortunately, Yan Lieqi is a little older and doesn't know anything about this...
This is not the reaction a master should have.
"But now I feel that my previous cognition was wrong."
With a light cough, Ke Ran spoke.
Break the weird atmosphere in the office.
"Sun Youde is not a 'good man', he is just himself, and everything he does is just what he wants to do."
Cen Jing didn't speak, and rubbed his chin as if thinking about something.
"What do you mean?" Sun Youde asked.
"Whether it's seasoned and calm, malicious and decisive, or filial piety and loyalty, as well as the respect for others and obeying the rules I mentioned before, are all our definitions for him. But he is just following his own current thoughts. Just do it. If Sun Youde's current state is as you said, silent and unable to cheer up, then this is also a direct and true reflection of his current heart-I just don't want to talk, and I'm too lazy to struggle."
Sighing, Ke Ran said: "So I say he is neither. He is not the kind of person whose personality can be solidified by our experience, not even the search and defendant. In other words, they are all based on You are doing things with your own set of worldviews, and you don’t have mind reading skills, how can you guess what he will want to do in court?"
After Ke Ran finished speaking, he looked at Yan Lieqi, who had a serious expression on his face.
Then he raised his head to look at Cen Jing who was standing beside him, Cen Jing's expression was not much better.
What I... just said seems to be too much?
I don't go to court, so my back hurts when I stand and talk?
Ke Ran felt guilty belatedly.
Swallowing saliva without a trace, he said, "But I don't think he will do anything unexpected in court. Every time I communicate with him, he always gives me the feeling of 'OK, I Recognized 'such...'
Of the two, Cen Jing was the first to adjust, "What you said makes sense..."
Ke Ran didn't dare to speak casually anymore, he was afraid that if he spoke, he would push the atmosphere to an even weirder place.
Yan Lieqi also nodded, "Indeed, what Ke Ran said is quite right. Now it seems that I am too sticking to the old point of view. Not every case can be judged by experience."
That's right, Ke Ran agrees with Yan Lieqi's words in his heart.
Experience cannot be generalized.
It is true that experience can make one thing more effective, but some people in modern society, especially successful people, have unconsciously deified the word experience.Because at a certain period they have relied on experience to achieve success, they think that experience can be the key to all the doors of success.
He nodded involuntarily.
"It seems that we should listen to the advice of young lawyers in the future, and support each other so that we can achieve each other."
Seeing Ke Ran nodding, Yan Lieqi said with a smile.
Ke Ran was a little swollen by what he said, and he was not ready to speak just now, he opened up the chatterbox again, "I also think that some 'experience talks' that have been widely circulated can actually be completely invalidated. Now the speed of information update is getting faster and faster. Faster and faster, things a year ago are now considered 'outdated', not to mention the experience of dealing with people. People's hearts have changed much faster than other things."
With one sentence, the old lawyers' faces were completely slapped.
Fortunately, Yan Lieqi has a good personality and doesn't care about him.
"The two categories of death row prisoners mentioned today, I feel—"
But Cen Jing couldn't listen anymore.
Cen Jing knew that Ke Ran had a slightly reckless character, so naturally he wouldn't take it to heart, and although he looked at Yan Lieqi like this and smiled with a good temper, as the oldest lawyer among the three, he couldn't help but feel that he still had a bad temper. will be uncomfortable.
It's not enough to hate Ke Ran for such a trivial matter, but there will inevitably be a layer of estrangement in his heart. If Ke Ran asks about other cases in the future, he may not want to talk to Ke Ran more.
After all, you said "experience is useless" at the beginning.
For Ke Ran's future interpersonal communication and professional development, Cen Jing had to interrupt Ke Ran.
He touched Ke Ran's back without any trace, and said, "Okay, I'll almost stop talking about this." Then he looked at Yan Lieqi, "Then we'll play it by ear in court, and I agree with what Ke Ran said, Sun You There will be no unexpected moves."
"Okay." Yan Lieqi readily agreed, picked up his notebook, "Then I'll go to work first, there is another case waiting over there."
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