Chapter 940

“They want them 20 million U.S. dollars each!” Zheng Yucheng gritted his teeth and said, “Just to help us change the J-8II, a set of avionics system and fire control radar, they will ask us for a set of 10 million U.S. dollars! There is such a thing. This opportunity must not be missed.”

He was the first to ask how much it would cost to sell Super-7A to the United States.

Sell, it must be sold.

After passing this village, there is no such shop. Anyway, it is sold abroad.

Selling to Americans is a better way to advertise to the domestic military industry.

Wang Guilin looked at Zheng Yucheng. The old guy was completely whimsical. The Americans are not ignorant of the goods. The price is too high. What should people do?

“This price is impossible. We only sold 10 million US dollars to Egypt.” Wang Guilin felt that this price was unrealistic.

The performance of Super-7A is due to the huge lift and aerodynamic performance provided by the aerodynamic layout of the canard and delta wing, not how excellent the overall performance is.

As an advanced trainer or light fighter, Super-7A is indeed very good.

But this fighter is used in actual combat and will not perform very well.

Although the avionics and radar systems onboard have improved, they still cannot be compared with mainstream Western fighters such as F-14, F15, and F-16, and there is even a big gap.

Xie Kai looked at Zheng Yucheng in a whimsical way, and couldn’t help sighing.

No matter what, it is difficult for Super-7A to double the price.

I had known it earlier that I was not in a hurry to sell it to the Egyptians, otherwise they could do what they said now.

“Let’s listen to what Xie Kai said. He has been planning this.” Wang Guilin saw that Xie Kai hadn’t said anything, so he thought it would be better to see what Xie Kai said.

They had never thought about selling Super-7A to Americans before.

“At present, it seems that if you want to sell to Americans at a high price, it is unlikely. Of course, according to the low price of Egypt, it will not work.” Xie Kai is also considering this.

When Egypt originally purchased the Super-7A, the Super-7A had not yet completed its first flight, and the 200 engines bought from the Soviet Union were rusted in the warehouse. The father Xie Jianguo had just entered the management committee for the first time in charge of the project, and there was an accident.

Therefore, Xie Kai did not discuss too much about the price with Egypt in order to make it impossible to say.

A 10 million U.S. aircraft is definitely more expensive as a trainer.

However, it has far more performance data than the average light fighter, so it is not expensive.

“In terms of price, it has to rise to at least 12 to 13 million US dollars. In terms of quantity, you can make a fuss.” Xie Kai thought for a long time, but felt that he could only make a fuss about the quantity.

“You might as well raise the price a little bit more. What’s the use of buying so much?” Zheng Yucheng was smirked by Xie Kai’s words.

The last thing Americans lack is fighter jets.

Not to mention the thousands of advanced fighters in active service, the number of previously retired fighters, combined, is terrifying to incomparable.

Xie Kai actually wants to make a fuss on the most unlikely amount.

Didn’t you see that the United States bought the J-7, but only bought 15 of them?

It happened to be around 100 million US dollars.

The price of the J-7 is cheap, only 7 million US dollars per aircraft.

“Uncle Zheng, don’t forget, the positioning of Super-7A is not a main fighter, but an advanced trainer!” Xie Kai emphasized. “Now, the U.S. Air Force, which has excellent fighter performance, does not have an advanced advanced trainer aircraft!”

Xie Kai this is a breakthrough point that is fully integrated with what he has learned.

As an important advanced trainer for the U.S. Air Force and Navy Air Force in the future, the T-45 has not yet entered the first flight stage.

The T-38 Eagle Claw trainer, which was originally used as the main trainer in the United States, is also designed in the 1950s. Regardless of its flight performance and instrumentation, it is early for the main fighter aircraft to be the US aviation force with stronger technical performance. Has fallen behind.(Read more @ wuxiax.com)

Not to mention the old-fashioned T-33 trainer that improved the P-80 fighter in 47 years.

“The Americans don’t have high-performance advanced trainers?” Zheng Yucheng didn’t believe it. “Where did they get so many advanced fighter pilots?”



“A trainer of the same model fighter.” Xie Kai said, “What they lack is a general advanced trainer.”

Now that the air forces of various countries are developing, they trained pilots on basic trainers at the beginning. After they have a basic flying foundation, they will continue to learn to fly in trainers of the same model as the fighter planes.

Under such a training program, the pilots can fly the same type of fighter jets they have learned well as long as they are released separately.

This is also the main method of air force training in various countries.

However, under such a training system, it is not without any drawbacks. The training time for pilots has become very long, and the training cost has increased a lot.

The T-45 was originally developed jointly by McDonnell Douglas and British Aerospace Corporation based on the US Navy’s “Jet Flight Training System (VTXTS)”. The development began in November 1981, and it has not yet achieved its first flight.

The U.S. Navy’s requirement for the new trainer aircraft is that the new trainer aircraft can reduce the training fleet size by 42%, the flight hours by 25%, and the number of people by 46 compared with the T-2 and TA-4 currently used by the Navy. %……

Super -7A, just capable of such a job.

And because of its short take-off and landing and superb low-altitude flight performance, it is even more suitable for the US Navy than the T-45 being developed.

“If this is the case, it is really possible. However, will the U.S. and the U.K. study T-45 trouble?” After listening to Xie Kai’s explanation, Wang Guilin felt that it was entirely possible.

Super-7A itself is positioned as an advanced trainer.

For large countries, this is a trainer; for small countries, this is a fighter jet.

It can be air-to-air, anti-ship, and ground-attack, and its overall performance changes completely according to different combat missions.

“What are they messing up? It’s a big deal. Just don’t sell it. Didn’t McDonnell give us a -10 shipment before? What if they grabbed their order? What’s more, the United States has not placed an order yet!”

This is the case with American military units. They will research on their own and then sell them to the military. If the military is interested, then they will make a fortune; if the military is not interested, I’m sorry, the investment in research and development will be wasted.

It is completely different from the domestic military system research and development.

Even, 404 is currently following this path. First, develop projects independently based on market demand, and then sell them.

It is completely different from other domestic military-industrial units that perform higher-level tasks. The higher-level assigns R&D tasks and allocates R&D funds before starting.

“That’s good! I’m not happy with McDonnell for a long time, so I hope that Yun-10 will be completely successful, and then grab their orders! This is when we charge a little interest first!” Zheng Yucheng was immediately overjoyed.

Regarding McDonnell Douglas, let alone him, even many technicians who are engaged in large aircraft attribute the dismissal of Yun-10 to McDonnell Douglas entering China.

Although the technology of Yun-10 is a little bit behind, the fuel consumption is higher, it is not as environmentally friendly as the legend, as long as there is an order, it can continue to improve.

McDonnell Douglas’ entry into China completely deprived Yun-10 of funding for continued research and development.

“McDonnell Douglas was originally our enemy, so it is understandable to grab their orders.” Xie Kai is even more unhappy with McDonnell Douglas than Zheng Yucheng. “I didn’t hate them so much if they didn’t want to use the parts of our third aircraft to train the workers for skills!”

What Xie Kai said was obviously insincere.

McDonnell Douglas’ technology is indeed much stronger than that of major aircraft factories. This cannot be denied.

Some people say that McDonnell Douglas entered China after conducting public relations with China and ruined the future of Yun-10. The more he knew about the high-end manufacturing industry of the whole country, the more he knew about these bigwigs, the more Xie Kai felt that. It’s nonsense.


If the boss above really has no eyesight, will the 404-like shit-chucking stick be allowed to exist?

The above hopes to exchange technology for the market. It is estimated that no one would have thought that after ten years, McDonnell Douglas would go bankrupt and be annexed by Boeing.

In the end, there are no large aircraft that can be produced in China.

In any case, McDonnell Douglas has been producing in China for more than ten years, and the training of national talents is still quite good. Otherwise, after the domestic McDonnell Douglas aircraft is not allowed to be produced in China, it will engage in ARJ-21 regional airliners and C-919s. Big airplanes are not so easy.

The only bad thing is that there is no Yun-10, and the domestic system is not complete.

“Can we grab it?” Wang Guilin was a little worried, “Don’t affect other cooperation at that time.”

“It’s better if you don’t cooperate! McDonnell Doubt withdraws from China, that is the best. By that time, we will have no competitors on the -10.” Zheng Yucheng was anxious.

Xie Kai knows that McDonnell Douglas will not go bankrupt and will not withdraw from the Chinese market.

Even, because of the existence of the Yun-10, McDonnell Douglas does not dare to increase the price as excessively as in the original history.

People from the Civil Aviation Administration of China are not fools. China’s production technology is too poor and the cost is too high. McDonnell Douglas wants to increase prices?

The price increase is no longer necessary. Yun-10 is almost a handicap, can it fly?

“It is impossible for McDonnell Douglas to evacuate. With the growth of the domestic economy, the domestic civil aviation market will grow on a large scale, and the demand for civil aviation aircraft will also be greater…” Xie Kai said seriously, “Even, Airbus Both Boeing and Boeing will enter China to build factories for the market.”

China’s aviation market will be the fastest growing country in the global aviation market in the next few decades.

Before they had finished their discussions, they received a notice from Long Yaohua that the Americans invited them to dinner together to discuss matters related to the cooperation of Super-7A fighters.

“Is there anything to discuss? Just buy it directly for the money!” Zheng Yucheng’s waist is hard now.

Finally, I was able to grind in front of the Americans.

“Or the old rule, let them pay the advance first?” Wang Guilin was also full of eagerness.

Xie Kai shook his head, “No, change the rules this time, learn from the J-8II project they cooperated with us, and let them pay the full amount first!”

Anyway, the cooperation will eventually be suspended because the Soviet Union is gone, and the Americans no longer need China to help them share the pressure of the powerful Soviet Union.

The J-8II was still dead before it was completed. When the time comes, it’s a tooth for a tooth.

The Americans demand that China pay hundreds of millions of dollars more to complete the J-8II. At that time, China can also ask the Americans to pay more on the grounds of rising costs, otherwise they won’t have to deliver…

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