Rebirth of Military Workers

Chapter 241

“Is there the wreckage of the F-14 fighter? Or is it intact?” Zheng Yucheng became interested.

The 404 has the idea to intervene in the field of fighter research. For so many years in China, there has not been an advanced fighter, let alone a heavy fighter.

The F-14 is one of the world’s top fighters.

“Yes, some time ago, we shot down two Iranian F-14 Tomcat fighters at the border.” Ibrahim said, “I believe this has a very important role in your aviation industry. So the Soviets proposed to use it. This kind of fighter and the above missiles exchanged some equipment with them, and we refused…”

“You should trade with the Soviets to get more benefits.” Xie Kai said. “We are not a unit that specializes in fighter planes.”

“Xie Kai!” Zheng Yucheng whispered to Xie Kai, “This fighter is the best in the world. As long as we can get it, we can build a heavy fighter.”

404 can’t be used by itself, can it be used by other units?

It doesn’t cost much at all.

“Once we get the sample, we can imitate it?” Xie Kai asked Zheng Yucheng in a low voice, “No matter the design level or the manufacturing level, we can’t achieve the production of this kind of fighter. Especially in terms of engines.”

The F-14 fighter is really good enough.

During the honeymoon between China and the United States, they also considered introducing such heavy fighters, but they were rejected by the Americans.

The full set of technologies of the Soviet J-27 was given to China. How many years did it take for the J-11 to be fully usable?

We got the Su-33 prototype from Ukraine. How many years did it take for the J-15 to be produced in China?

Xie Kai also wants to do it, but now there are more and more projects in the base, and each project does not require a small amount of funding.

If the problem of the engine is not solved, the design is useless.

Besides, too many advanced materials are needed?

“I don’t have the ability now, it doesn’t mean that we won’t have it in the future. If the price is not high, we will take it.” Zheng Yucheng said, “When we don’t have money, we don’t need to consider this project. We put it there as a technical reserve, and first carry out surveying, mapping and copying. Especially the radar system and avionics system above…”

“The price is not high, it’s okay.” Xie Kai thought for a while, and it was really good to follow Zheng Yucheng’s statement.

Regardless of the American style or the Soviet style, it is most appropriate to digest their technology to form China’s own technology.

Otherwise, it would be a waste of money to wait for the full set of technologies for the Su-27 export version to be purchased from the Russians by spending huge amounts of money later in the country.

“How much do you plan to buy?” Xie Kai asked the Iraqi. “Although we don’t need it, it can be used as a reference for the research and design of our new generation of fighters.”

“We don’t need the money, we will give it to you directly.” Ibrahim smiled lightly when the other party finally proposed it.

Xie Kai didn’t believe they would be so kind.

There is no free lunch in the world.

He just stared at each other without speaking.

“Before we proposed that you are responsible for helping us develop an air-to-air missile for use with your country’s J-7. Here, we provide samples of AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-54 Phoenix. Give you a technical reference. We hope you can provide us with more advanced air-to-air missiles…” Harry Mossan looked at Xie Kai and said very sincerely.

Xie Kai doesn’t think their words are true.

These missiles are provided to domestic units that specialize in the development of air-to-air missiles. The speed is much faster and more reliable than units that have never been in contact with this type of missile research such as the 404.

They can’t have any purpose and want to pull 404 in.

“It’s more appropriate for you to find our domestic related units.” Xie Kai said calmly, “We are not professional, and even our avant-garde air defense missiles were made by accident.”

“We hope to achieve cooperation with you like the Pakistan tank project.” Ibrahim finally explained their purpose.

Zheng Yucheng became happy, “Good cooperation, win-win, no one suffers.”

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Look at the Pakistanis, who directly gave a threshold fee of 50 million U.S. dollars. Iraqis are much richer than Pakistan.

“What do you mean by cooperation? If the fighter project, whether it is cooperation with Shen Fei or Rong Fei, it is far better than cooperation with us. We have no technical foundation in the fighter project.” Xie Kai does not think it is a good thing. .

Zheng Yucheng also frowned at this moment thinking about the purpose of the Iraqis.

Pie in the sky?

They are afraid of being hit.

“We are preparing to cooperate with Rong Fei, and the contact with them makes us feel bad. Many cooperation contents are not as easy as Pakistan’s reaching a big deal with you…” Ibrahim did not hide this.

From the very beginning, they proposed to cooperate with Rongfei 132 Factory, hoping to help them complete the infrastructure construction of the domestic aircraft industry with the scientific research capabilities of the Chinese.

China’s scientific research capabilities are very poor, but it has a complete system.

In the end negotiations, they found that there were too many constraints. The J-7 modified fighters provided to them by China were reluctant to let them intervene in the field of technology development, and at the same time, they did not intend to share technology or anything.

Xie Kai looked at each other and frowned.

Do Iraqis have the idea to design and produce fighter planes by themselves? This seems to have never heard of it.

Even if the Iraqis have technology, what’s the use?

Once international sanctions are imposed on the Iraqis and blockades are imposed on them, it will be difficult for them to bring back Chinese-made fighters.

“So, we hope to cooperate with you, and then you cooperate with Rong Fei…” Ibrahim added. “This is also the decision we made after inquiring with the relevant departments of your country. The 132 factory does not have your own right to raise funds and projects independently.”

Feelings are coming from this?

All explanations are very reasonable, but Xie Kai still doesn’t believe the other party’s purpose.

After Saddam came to power and before the outbreak of the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq has not been arrogantly establishing its own military-industrial system.

Saddam’s concept is to buy, buy, and buy.

For a country like Iraq, the cost of basic investment is too high, and all supporting industries have to be invested and constructed without any foundation, which is too large.

Do it yourself, it is far cheaper than buying from abroad.

In particular, such investments in fighter jets are counted in billions or even tens of billions of dollars.

They want to engage in rocket technology, Xie Kai will believe that, after all, Iraqis have experience and foundation in this area.

The Scud missile that can produce three bombs into two bombs and doubles the range, except that the weight of the warhead it carries becomes very light, and the accuracy range does not have much impact, which shows that their foundation in this field is not bad.

“How do you hope to cooperate?” Xie Kai asked.

“Transform the avionics and radar systems of the J-7 to form better combat performance; at the same time, let us have the ability to improve the avionics and radar systems of our domestic fighters, and upgrade our fighters…” Ibrahim Xin’s face was full of seriousness.

The weapons and equipment equipped in Iraq are all Soviet-style.

Armored vehicles and tanks came from the Soviet Union, and various types of fighter jets also came from the Soviet Union.

“We can’t decide this matter. Let’s talk about our missile cooperation project first.” Zheng Yucheng made this answer after discussing it with Xie Kai.

If it was only what the Iraqis needed, the 132 factory could not be unable to call the shots.

Even if Factory 132 does not have this right, it is impossible for the superior authority to give up such cooperation.

Since the beginning of reform and opening up, the national strategic focus has shifted, and the life of the domestic military industry system has been difficult. Some people send money to the door, and there is absolutely no reason to refuse.

“This is a series of cooperation, which can be integrated and discussed together.” Harry Mossang did not understand why the Chinese would give up the subsequent cooperation.

If they no longer introduce a unit, it will be difficult for them to achieve the original plan.

The massive procurement of missiles is just the beginning.

The J-7 provided by China is cheap and its performance is also poor.

They want a better-performing J-8, but China is unwilling to provide it. There is no other way but to seek for it.

The F-14 fire control system can search and track dozens of targets at the same time, and it can strike multiple targets at the same time.

Equipping a Chinese-made J-7 with such a fire control system can improve the overall performance of the fighter a lot, even if its performance is much worse.

“No, this is a completely different cooperation. The subsequent development of air-to-air missiles can be discussed together.” Xie Kai’s biggest worry is that the Iraqis use this as a threat. “As for the price, if you pay cash, we Consider reducing the price of each set by US$5,000.”

Xie Kai first brought back the subject of the negotiation.

Follow-up cooperation, I will talk about it later, and finally let Zheng Yucheng ask Li Mingshan what the Iraqis are thinking about before considering it.

“Only cut the price by five thousand dollars? You are really stingy!” Harry Mossant looked weird. “We have added a thousand sets of purchase orders!”

“We considered lowering the price just because of one thousand sets! One set is five thousand dollars less, and the total price is five million dollars less!” Xie Kai told the Iraqis very seriously that five million dollars is a huge amount. Number of transactions.

“Yes, five million U.S. dollars is already the biggest concession we can make!” Zheng Yucheng is now also beginning to play a role.

He even regretted that he had thought about selling a set of 80,000 dollars to the other party.

For a sudden loss of 15 million U.S. dollars, how prodigal he must be?

When Zheng Yucheng talked to the other party, Xie Kai stopped talking.

The Iraqis wanted to bind this negotiation with other cooperation. Zheng Yucheng resolved the difference, saying that no agreement was reached, the contract was signed, and no other projects were discussed.

“If you feel that the price is still unsatisfactory, we can reduce each one by another 200 dollars.” Zheng Yucheng is very painful.

“Zheng, you are the most stingy Chinese we have ever met!” In the end, Ibrahim couldn’t stand Zheng Yucheng.