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"If this project has nothing to do with Daystar Technology, then I think your judgment is completely accurate."

"After all, China's aviation industry is indeed far from developed."

"But everything seems to have changed after Venus Technology was involved."

"Just like the recyclable rocket like Venus 9, can you believe that it was actually made by a Chinese company?"

"There is also the Kunpeng heavy-lift transport helicopter. Polar Bear and China have tried to imitate it decades ago, but they have never been successful. In the end, it was quietly produced by Daystar Technology."

"I'm worried that they will also do something with passenger aircraft by then."

It must be said that as the president of Airbus Civil Aircraft, Fabrice has a good vision.

When people are arrogant, they are very arrogant, but they can still see the problems they should see.

Of course, this was also the reason why he was troubled.

Otherwise, we could just step on Boeing, why would we want to do so much?

"Venus Technology is now fully entering the aerospace industry, and Lingnan Province's support for Venus is also very strong."

“All Venus Technology’s equipment investments will be subsidized by Lingnan Province.”

"The first batch of subsidy funds reached 10 billion yuan, which is very rare on this scale."

"So Daystar Technology is really a company full of uncertainties."

As a Chinese, Chen Jumin naturally knows a lot about Daystar Technology.

In particular, Daystar Technology has now begun to get involved in the aviation industry, and it has more or less overlap with Airbus China.

As a result, Chen Jumin paid more attention to Daystar Technology.

Daystar Technology even took the initiative to communicate with Chinese airlines, trying to persuade them to open air communication services.

In the future, after the plane takes off, everyone no longer has to worry about not having access to the Internet.

As long as a Starlink satellite receiver is installed on the aircraft, it can provide Internet services to passengers through the WIFI network.

This should still be somewhat attractive to many passengers.

"You should do some research to understand Venus Technology's layout in the aviation business, especially the business related to large aircraft."

"We will make a special report to the headquarters next week, and we will evaluate how to deal with the relationship with Boeing and Daystar Technology in the next step."

Fabrice is also having a hard time making decisions now.

If you make a hasty decision without enough information, you are likely to make the wrong decision.

This is obviously not a situation Fabrice wants to see.

Whether it is helping Daystar Technology to suppress Boeing, or siding with Boeing to suppress Daystar Technology, it is a decision with a relatively large impact for Airbus.

Fabrice hopes to learn enough information before making a judgment.

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The matter of the missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 has been noisy for several days, but there has been no conclusion.

Various negative news about Boeing aircraft on the Chinese Internet does not seem to have decreased at all.

Even if Boeing China has done a lot of clarification work, it is of no use.

Of course, on the Internet in the United States, the situation is beginning to change.

Many articles have accused China's Internet of being unfriendly to Boeing because its competitors are maliciously slandering Boeing.

Some articles even directly mention the name Venus Technology.

At the same time, Daystar Technology's failure to implement development fines from the United States has been constantly cited by many media, and has been further extended to enterprises in the entire Nanshan system.

Automotive industry, equipment industry, semiconductor industry, aerospace industry...

Enterprises in the Nanshan Group are all taking the high-end route, and they are basically grabbing the cakes of international giants.

Therefore, it has naturally offended a number of companies in the United States.

Needless to say, General Motors and Ford Motor Company, everyone in the world knows that Nanshan Automobile Group has been in a life-and-death fight with each other.

Nanshan Semiconductor's competition with semiconductor companies such as Qualcomm, Texas Instruments, and ON Semiconductor is also well known to many people.

As for the matter between Honor Technology and Apple, let alone that.

The conflicts between other space exploration technology companies and Daystar Technology, the conflicts between Boeing and other military-industrial complexes and Daystar Technology...

All kinds of things have been revealed by the American media.

It is obviously not the companies of the Nanshan Group that engage in public opinion wars. The people in the United States are also very good at it.

AVIC has also felt the changes in public opinion in the United States.

"Mr. Cao, the public opinion in the United States seems to be instigating everyone's conflict with the Nanshan Group's enterprises, and the intention to comprehensively suppress your group is getting stronger and stronger."

Zhao Tianling is now very concerned about the developments in the Nanshan System. After all, he has just handed over a key project to Daystar Technology to lead.

If the research and development of this project is affected because of the suppression of the Nanshan System, that is definitely not a situation he wants to see.

"We have offended too many companies and damaged the core interests of many American high-tech companies. It is normal for the other party to want to suppress us."

"Unless we always sell some porcelain and tea, some shirts and shoes, it is impossible for American high-tech companies to watch our development."

"Behind many conflicts are essentially conflicts of interest."

"They are used to living a good life, but now they are feeling the pressure of competition. What they want to do is not to improve their competitiveness, but to find ways to kill their competitors."

"After all, the company that caused the problem has been shut down, and the problem will naturally disappear."

Cao Yang was not surprised at all by the change in public opinion in the United States.

Ever since he began to shift the focus of his work to Daystar Technology in the past few years and prepared to work hard on some high-end projects, he had anticipated the emergence of these scenarios.

Even this is not the worst scene. In the future, the eating scene in America will become more and more ugly.

This is almost inevitable.

The butt determines the head. If I were the person in charge of Boeing, I would definitely try my best to kill Daystar Technology.

"Yes, why can these high-tech projects only be carried out by American companies? Our Chinese companies have made breakthroughs in these fields, as if we are endangering the world."

"But as long as it's something we haven't finished, they will sell it to us at a sky-high price."

"Not to mention other things, the prices of all kinds of passenger planes are really ridiculously high."

"We also produce various aircraft ourselves, and we have a good idea of ​​the approximate cost of a passenger aircraft."

"However, even if you know that it is too expensive to sell to you, you still have to buy it, otherwise there will be no aircraft to use."

Zhao Tianling couldn't help but complain in front of Cao Yang.

This time he called Cao Yang to express his concern and goodwill.

Now that Cao Yang has talked about this, he naturally can't help but complain too.

In his opinion, this is not only the case in the United States, but also in other countries.

Therefore, AVIC has launched many projects in recent years in order to avoid being stuck.

At least we should minimize the problems of neck jamming.

Otherwise, it would be too uncomfortable to live by looking at other people's faces every day.

"Mr. Zhao, the more intense Boeing's reaction is now, it means that our efforts are completely correct."

"The more they are afraid of what we do, the more we will do it."

"In addition to the B-2 stealth bomber project, we at Venus Technology are also preparing to officially announce our entry into the mainline passenger aircraft business and will produce a large aircraft of the same level as the Boeing 777."

When Cao Yang said this, Zhao Tianling was immediately shocked.

Producing a passenger aircraft of the same level as the Boeing 777 is something only Airbus dares to do.

Now Daystar Technology has not even produced a regional airliner of the Boeing 737 level, and is about to enter the mainline airliner industry. Is this a step too far?

You know, the situation of producing civilian technology is completely different from that of producing military aircraft.

The most important thing for military aircraft is technical indicators. As long as the performance is good, any other shortcomings are acceptable.

But civilian aircraft are different.

The most important thing for civilian passenger aircraft is economic indicators. Since they are put into commercial use, this means that the cost must be kept to a minimum while ensuring that the performance can meet the demand.

Like military aircraft, as long as the performance is powerful enough, doubling the price is not a problem, and if the life is short, it is not non-negotiable.

Maintenance is troublesome and requires many people.

High fuel consumption and many supporting facilities can also be solved in other ways.

For example, there are many ways to use aerial tankers, install pods, and send early warning aircraft to accompany the aircraft.

For civilian aircraft, the situation is different.

The price is too expensive, sorry, no!

The fuel consumption is high, sorry, but I don’t want it!

Life is short, I’m sorry to continue, but I still don’t want it!

Maintenance trouble requires a lot of labor, haha, don’t continue!

It can be said that once the price of a passenger aircraft becomes expensive, buyers will switch to other passenger aircraft. There is no need to choose such an expensive technology.

In addition, the safety of civilian passenger aircraft is much higher than that of military aircraft.

Regardless of the fact that fighter jets surpass passenger aircraft in various performances, that is only when there are only a few or even one operator.

Even if something happens to the fighter plane, you can escape by parachuting from the ejection seat.

But the passenger plane is different. The hundreds of people on the passenger plane have not learned how to parachute to escape.

Once a failure occurs, it is almost certain to die, so in terms of safety, the passenger plane must be fully occupied.

Otherwise, the disappearance of the Boeing 777 this time would not have such a big impact.

Although Venus Technology has developed high-performance and difficult helicopters such as the Kunpeng heavy transport helicopter, it has also developed technologically advanced products such as the Scorpion drone and the Skyhawk drone.

But in the field of passenger aircraft, Zhao Tianling felt that the other party really had no experience.

Even if relevant technology research and development has been started a few days ago, it is impossible to achieve results soon.

It is very likely that it will take ten to eight years, or even more than ten or twenty years to produce results.

Under such circumstances, Cao Yang decided to produce a large passenger aircraft similar to the Boeing 777. Is this because of his own impulse?

Of course, Zhao Tianling would definitely not say that directly.

"Mr. Cao, although trunk airliners are very important, the largest sales volume is actually regional airliners, or airliners between trunk lines and regional airliners."

"But for products in this area, the C919 from Mordu Commercial Aircraft Co., Ltd. is already preparing. If Venus Technology also engages in similar projects, it doesn't mean much."

"So I think the research and development of large passenger aircraft should be reconsidered?"

Zhao Tianling expressed his views tactfully.

Deep down in his heart, of course, he hopes that Daystar Technology can really produce a passenger aircraft comparable to the Boeing 777, but his reason tells him to be realistic.

Otherwise, a large amount of funds will be burned, but nothing will be accomplished, which will drag down the research and development of other projects.

Then it's totally not worth it.

"Mr. Zhao, over at Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, you guys, AVIC, can be considered the major shareholders."

"Their project research and development has been going on for many years. Are there any special bottlenecks that Venus Technology can help with?"

Zhao Tianling took the initiative to mention the C919 project, and Cao Yang naturally would not miss the opportunity.

In fact, he had already arranged for someone to have a rough understanding of the current situation of C919.

It can be said that the progress is not smooth.

Especially for aero engines, the current plan is to use General Electric products.

This is obviously not a situation Cao Yang wants to see.

However, the large aircraft project is very complicated. If Cao Yang rashly proposes that Venus Technology wants to participate in it, there may not be any good results in the end.

There is no need to do thankless things.

Of course, now that the shareholder Zhao Tianling has mentioned this topic, the situation is different.

"There are quite a few bottlenecks, including avionics and engines."

"Even in terms of composite materials, we still need to communicate with Nanshan Carbon Fiber to see if we can purchase from them."

"Our C919 is being developed in accordance with the standards for obtaining international airworthiness certificates. There are many things in it that limit our performance."

"If Daystar Technology has any ideas, Mr. Cao, feel free to put them forward."

Zhao Tianling is not stupid either. From the conversation with Cao Yang, he also felt something different.

So he kicked the ball back to Cao Yang.

See what cards the other party has to play, and then see how you want to respond.

"We Nanshan Engine and Venus Technology are jointly developing aerospace engines. The engines on previous drones and the turboshaft engines used on Kunpeng were both jointly developed by Nanshan Engine and Venus Technology."

"Facing the future large transport aircraft and small business aircraft markets, Nanshan Engine is also developing new types of aero engines."

"Some obvious progress has been made so far, and we will be able to catch up with the supply of C919 by then."

"If Mr. Zhao is interested, he can invite experts from AVIC and Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China to come over for inspection and get a better understanding of the gap between our aero engines and the General Dynamics products that the C919 is going to use."

Although if Nanshan Engine can handle the aero engine, it will be considered a big contribution to the C919 project.

But after all, this is a matter of asking Party A to give an order, and you still need to have the proper attitude.

You cannot rely on Party B's superior technical strength to completely ignore Party A.

Cao Yang understood this very well.

Otherwise, it is very possible that the C919 would rather use General Dynamics engines than Nanshan engines.

After all, it is too easy for Party A to deny Party B's proposal.

Who can't make excuses?

The aero engines of your Nanshan Engine have not been market-proven, so we do not consider using them now.

A certain performance index of your Nanshan Engine's aeroengine cannot meet our design requirements, so it cannot be used.

you……

No matter what product it is, if you want to find faults, it is impossible not to find faults.

"Do you want to supply aero engines for C919?"

Zhao Tianling looked at the calendar and saw that today was not April 1st.

How come shocking news comes out one after another.

First, Daystar Technology wanted to produce passenger aircraft of the Boeing 777 level, and now it said it would supply aero engines for the C919.

I have never heard of any topic in this area before.

The origins of the C919, a large aircraft, can be traced back to the Y-10 project in the 1970s.

This is a large project that has not been completely completed after several generations of hard work. The aerospace engine is one of the main bottlenecks.

Now Cao Yang suddenly said that they can handle the C919 aero engine and want to supply it to the C919.

How can Zhao Tianling believe this?

AVIC does not have the final say in the case of Shanghai Commercial Aircraft Co., Ltd.

Their level is not even worse than that of AVIC.

Under such circumstances, Zhao Tianling did not dare to easily reveal the news that Nanshan Engine would supply aero engines for the C919.

Because if you are not careful, you will become a joke.

Aviation engines, that is the real crown jewel of industry, how can it be so easy to get.

It took many years for China to completely copy the Spey engine that was transferred from Angeli to China!

"Yes, I know this proposal sounds a bit fanciful."

"But having more choices is not a bad thing after all."

"AVIC and COMAC can first understand the situation before making a judgment."

Cao Yang didn't expect to convince Zhao Tianling with just one phone call. That would be too childish.

So let’s bring up the topic first, and then invite relevant experts to come and inspect it, have a good exchange with everyone, and then determine the general direction.

Based on the research and development progress of the C919, even with the help of Venus Technology, it will still take at least a few years before mass production.

Under this circumstance, Nanshan Engine still has enough time to make targeted improvements to the aero-engine.

Others may think that a few years is too much time to complete the task.

But Cao Yang was very confident.

Most of them just spend more time on this project.

Venus Technology does not lack various high-precision processing equipment, high-end materials, and high-tech talents.

Under this circumstance, although it seems very difficult to develop an aero engine, it is not impossible.

In fact, many of the aeroengines used in mainstream aircraft today have not changed much from those a few decades ago.

For example, the Spey engine just mentioned is actually an engine product developed by Rolls-Royce in the 1960s.

However, in China, even in the 1980s and 1990s, products with the same performance were not fully produced.

Other mainstream aerospace companies such as General Electric have not seen any earth-shaking changes in their technology in recent years.

If Nanshan Engine wants to catch up, the difficulty is not necessarily that high.

After all, Nanshan Engine is now considered to be experienced in various engine technologies.

"Okay, then I will personally lead a team to your place next week to understand the situation in detail first."

"If there is really hope that Nanshan Engine's aero engines will be used on the C919, we at AVIC will definitely fully support it."

"I will also personally communicate with Modu Commercial Aircraft Co., Ltd. and ask them to arrange experts to come and inspect it, so that we can confirm together."

Zhao Tianqin was impressed by Cao Yang's confidence.

Enterprises in the Nanshan Group have brought many surprises to everyone in recent years.

Although supplying aircraft engines to the C919 sounds very unreliable, it is not impossible at all.

What if Nanshan Engine brings another surprise to everyone this time?

"welcome any time!"

"Boeing and Airbus are making money from us now, but they have various harsh cooperation terms."

"For example, with the disappearance of the Boeing 777 this time, Boeing's cooperation was not very good. All kinds of core information were not disclosed to the outside world. It was completely like being a referee and an athlete at the same time."

"If the C919 can use our aero engines, and then there can be all-round cooperation in flight control and fuselage materials, I believe it will be able to achieve its first flight within the next three years, and it is not impossible to even produce a prototype next year. "

"Then it will become entirely possible for domestic airlines to start using China's own passenger aircraft on a large scale in the next five years."

Cao Yang is now more active than anyone else in grabbing orders from Boeing.

Even Boeing has been listed by Cao Yang as the number one competitor of Daystar Technology.

Let Nanshan Engine supply engines to the C919, and Venus Technology will cooperate with Modou Commercial Aircraft to accelerate the research and development progress of the C919.

At that time, not only can they make money by selling parts, but they can also take the cake from Boeing by promoting the sales of the C919.

This kind of thing is definitely worth doing well.

"Mr. Cao, your topic is a bit too big. I can't give you an immediate reply for the time being."

"But I already know what you are thinking. I will also communicate with Mr. He from Modu Commercial Aircraft Co., Ltd. later."

"As long as they are parts that can be obtained domestically, I believe that Shanghai Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China will definitely not want to import them from abroad."

"After all, for such a product that attracts worldwide attention, everyone will definitely pay attention to the localization rate of its components."

"If most of them are imported, the value of this large aircraft will drop significantly. This is definitely not a situation that Shanghai Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China wants to see."

Zhao Tianling took a deep breath and suppressed his inner surprise.

I made the call today and the information was really far beyond my imagination.

He couldn't wait to call Modu Shangfei to discuss this matter.

Although I am not sure whether this is reliable, as long as there is such a possibility, it is already a huge improvement.