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It just refreshed the three views of people.

Daji and Empress Jiang, who were listening to Emperor Xin's story, dropped the barbecue meat in their mouths on the ground. They didn't expect that there were such people in the world!

How could Liu Bang criticize Chen Ping triumphantly?

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Even Li Longji was stunned at the moment, and exclaimed: I still can't learn it!

Zhu Di's head was completely dizzy.

He looked at Liu Bang's shameless appearance, and then looked at his elder son's appearance of a moral gentleman. At that time, he drew two lights.

These two kinds of people deserve to be smoked.

One is shameless enough to refresh people's bottom line.

One is so stupid that it makes people grind their teeth.

Too extreme.

Zhu Gaochi was dumbfounded, what happened to me?

Execute Your Ten Clans (Hero Lord of the Prosperous Age):

"Looking at it this way, Liu Bang is the ancestor of donkey cart drifting!"

"This is a few years earlier than Xiang Yu's donkey cart drifting in the Battle of Gaixia."

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When the emperors heard this, they realized that Xiang Yu and Liu Bang simply refreshed people's bottom line perception of character.

One is more despicable and shameless than the other.

And Liu Bang yelled out at that time, he couldn't bear the blame.

Xu Xian wasn't the one who killed the white snake:

"You are superficial, how can Liu Bang be regarded as drifting in a donkey cart?"

"I have to give you a good stroke."

"What is donkey cart drift?"

"That's because the commander ran away first, and the donkey cart drifted first, leaving the entire army behind, which caused the war to be defeated."

"For example, in Xiang Yu's Gaixia battle, he ran first by himself, and then bombed the camp."

"Zhao Guangyi's donkey cart drifted, that's why Zhao Guangyi escaped alone, leaving all the troops behind."

"Then why don't you see Liu Bang again?"

"When Liu Bang fled, he brought his own army to break out of the encirclement. Without Liu Bang's instruction, let the army escape first, and his army would have been killed by Xiang Yu long ago."

"How can this be considered a donkey cart drift?"

"This is obviously a tactical retreat!"

"Moreover, the most important thing is that with the help of Xiang Yu, Liu Bang killed hundreds of thousands of allied princes. This should be Liu Bang's great contribution!"

"That's called killing with a borrowed knife!"

"It's a pity that Xiang Yu's knife was not worn off."

"Otherwise, the battle of Pengcheng is called the most incredible battle, and the battle will determine the world!"

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The corners of the emperors' mouths are twitching wildly, you even credited yourself with escaping!

You even boasted of an unprecedented defeat as your own achievement.

Can you have a face?

You were defeated and you did it as a last resort. Those who didn't know thought this was your original war deployment!

But they also felt that Liu Bang's donkey cart drifted a bit too much.

After all, Liu Bang ran away with his own army. Liu Bang didn't cheat his own army, but other allies.

This is a typical dead friend who never dies.

But don't talk nonsense about any great credit, you were almost overthrown by someone, this should be the biggest shame in your life!

Why do you still have the face to boast proudly?

You Liu Bang are worthy of being the ancestor of Confucianism, you lost so badly, you dare to brag that it is your own credit!

Qin Shihuang couldn't stand this guy anymore.

He also fully understood the entire Battle of Pengcheng, so he opened his mouth to comment.

Great Qin True Dragon:

"Liu Bang, this is not a donkey cart drifting!"

"After all, he is preserving his own vitality and fighting for his own interests."

"But this method is really too low."

"But war is unscrupulous, and soldiers use deceitful tactics!"

"In this battle of Pengcheng, Liu Bang was defeated. It was because Xiang Yu used the strong to suppress the weak, and when Liu Bang was dealing with the problem, he was able to preserve the greatest vitality at the last moment."

"This can also show Liu Bang's ability to respond in times of crisis."

"It's not like other princes who foolishly lost all their troops."

"So in this battle, Xiang Yu's military talent was demonstrated to the extreme, and Liu Bang also showed his wisdom and strategy as a hero in troubled times."

“All very good!”

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Chapter 573 587. Did Liu Bang Make a Mistake in the Battle of Pengcheng? (Subscribe)

Qin Shihuang made such an evaluation, and the other emperors nodded repeatedly to express their approval.

After all, this evaluation is very pertinent. First of all, this is Xiang Yu's performance battle, which is definitely the pinnacle of an actual combat commander.

It is no longer possible for people of later generations to give full play to the advantages of cavalry.

And Liu Bang also demonstrated his military talent in the war, saving part of his troops at the most dangerous moment, so that he could make a comeback.

But Li Longji did not accept it.

Li Sanlang, Lord of the Palace of Longevity:

"Why can't I see that Liu Bang has any military talent?"

"In this war, the reason why Liu Bang was divided by others is that apart from some objective factors, Liu Bang himself also has a lot of subjective factors."

"Liu Bang made some mistakes that a commander should never make."

"First, Liu Bang allowed the army to plunder and rape women, which caused the army's morale to slacken."

"Secondly, Liu Bang didn't do a good job of fortifications at all, and didn't take the war seriously, so he was defeated by one blow."

"Third, Liu Bang himself was the leader of the coalition of princes, but he escaped first in the battle, which led to the collapse of the entire war situation."

"Fourth, why didn't Liu Bang choose to station his troops in Pengcheng? Instead, he chose to station his troops in a plain area like Xiao County. Isn't this a mistake in the war strategy?"

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Seeing Li Longji's fourth point of view, pointing directly at Liu Bang's strategic mistakes, Cao Cao, Li Yuan, Yang Guang and others were full of contempt.

Infrastructure Maniac (Eternal Ruthless Lord):

"These few questions you asked only prove how ignorant and stupid you are!"

"The first question is why did Liu Bang let the army burn, kill and loot."

"There are two reasons:

"The first point, Chen Tong has already explained, that is, from a strategic point of view, Liu Bang can't show that he is a hero who is wise and mighty, so he can only hide his clumsiness."

"What's more important is the second point. This is a coalition army. Liu Bang is only the leader of the princes and kings. The only army Liu Bang can restrain is his own subordinates."

"I just asked, other princes and kings are burning, killing and looting, and they are all robbing resources, and their soldiers are earning a lot of money."

"If Liu Bang strictly enforces military discipline and prevents his army from participating in looting, first of all, he will not be able to obtain a large amount of money to use as military expenses."

"Isn't this stupid?"

"Do you think these princes will distribute the stolen money to Liu Bang?"

"Isn't war just for plundering resources?"

"Secondly, other princes and kings are robbing, Liu Bang can't rob, what do you let the soldiers of the army like Liu Bang think? They can only watch others get rich and look chic with beautiful women."

"What do you think these soldiers think of Liu Bang?"

"If Liu Bang really did this, then you don't have to wait until the Battle of Pengcheng, Liu Bang's soldiers can mutiny at that time!"

"Do you know what is the evil of human nature?"

"Do you know what it means to worry about inequality instead of scarcity?"

"If you dare not let the troops loot with others, then you just wait for yourself to die!"

"War, you don't just talk about it with lip service theory, you have to analyze the actual problem in practice!"

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Li Longji was so stunned that his heart ached. He never thought that Liu Bang's refusal of the army's looting could have such serious consequences.

But when you think about it, it really makes sense.

The reason why those soldiers fought with Liu Bang was not to be able to eat well, make a fortune, and have beautiful wives and concubines?

When everything is at your fingertips, you actually demanded military discipline and asked them to give up beauties and money.

The key is that others can grab it, why can't Liu Bang's soldiers grab it?