Subverted This is the Emperor Chat Group

In the chat group, the emperors of each parallel time and space all sneered.

Li Yuan really wanted to slap Li Shimin's big ear at this moment.

It's okay, what are you writing about Emperor Fan?

Look, you have limped all your descendants!

The unremarkable Li family leader in troubled times, the heroic leader:

"Li Laosan, you are an idiot!"

"You don't have a brain yourself? Don't you think about it yourself?"

"Li Shimin said that the enfeoffment system is good, has he implemented the enfeoffment system himself?"

"Is Li Shimin's son enfeoffed?"

"Aren't they still implementing the county system? Don't they want to centralize imperial power?"

"Such an obvious thing, don't you think about it with a long brain?"

"Those who flaunt their benevolence and morality every day, are they really benevolent and moral?"

"The enfeoffment system is definitely turning the wheel of history backwards, it is absolutely wrong!"

Li Shimin felt like scolding himself, but he couldn't refute it. Who asked him to write Di Fan?

But Li Longji didn't think so. He was a person who implemented the enfeoffment system, and he also formulated the system of Jiedushi and established feudal towns.

If he were to say that he was wrong, then wouldn't he call himself the emperor of all ages in vain?

Who in the future will admit it?

Li Longji must prove for himself and must prove for the enfeoffment system.

Li Sanlang, Lord of the Palace of Longevity:

"You said that the enfeoffment system is turning back the wheel of history, so it's turning back the wheel?"

"What evidence do you have for that?"

"I think whether to use the enfeoffment system or not depends on the national conditions at the time. It doesn't mean that if the enfeoffment system is used, it must be a reversal of history!"

Chen Tong couldn't listen to it at that time. In order to whitewash Li Shimin, the Internet advocated the system of enfeoffment. Many people said that whether to use the system of enfeoffment should be determined according to the national conditions.

What enfeoffment system is not necessarily wrong.

There is no right or wrong in the struggle for centralization and decentralization.

But in Chen Tong's view, this is just to whitewash Li Shimin, so he insisted on saying that!

Chen Tong:

"After Qin Shihuang, adopting the enfeoffment system is definitely going backwards in history!"

"It would be absolutely wrong to turn the clock back on history!"

"There's no question of whether it's appropriate or not, and there's no struggle between centralization and decentralization."

"As long as you use it, no matter how you use it, it is absolutely wrong!"

"There will be no exceptions!"

what!

Li Longji's lungs are going to explode right now.

Even Li Shimin was very upset at the moment.

In fact, deep down in his heart, he still thinks that even sometimes it is possible to use the one-use enfeoffment system, so don't make it so absolute.

For example, beyond the extreme wall of the empire.

And other emperors also expressed their views at this moment.

Execute the prosperous hero of your ten clans:

"I agree with Chen Tong's point of view!"

"The enfeoffment system has been eliminated during the Qin Shihuang period."

"Anytime the enfeoffment system is used, or in any form, it is definitely going backwards in history."

"It's definitely wrong!"

Yang Guang also agrees very much.

Infrastructure madman Eternal Ruthless Lord:

"I also agree with Chen Tong's point of view."

"Centralization and decentralization are incompatible."

"Either you centralize power, or you deny centralization, there is no so-called gray area."

Wu Zetian, Cao Cao, Li Yuan and others all expressed their views.

That is unanimous agreement with Chen Tong's statement.

In their eyes, any advocacy of the system of enfeoffment is definitely going backwards in history.

Those are all to be condemned.

Li Shimin was so stunned that he almost exploded at the moment.

And Li Longji is even more uncomfortable, because he is implementing the enfeoffment system, and of course he does not allow others to slander his level of governance.

Li Sanlang, Lord of the Palace of Longevity:

"It's ridiculous, it's ridiculous!"

"Why are you so absolute?"

"Is it because of how many of you are there?"

"Just because you like to centralize power?"

"What do we not like about centralized people?"

Chen Tong sneered.

Chen Tong:

"Since ancient times, those who don't like centralization, those who advocate decentralization and enfeoffment are either stupid or bad!"

"There is no third type."

Li Longji felt a strong sense of ridicule.

And Li Shimin also felt like he was lying on the gun, as if he had been slapped in public, which made him very uncomfortable.

At this moment, Chen Tong didn't have the heart to listen to their nonsense, so he just analyzed it.

Chen Tong:

"When it comes to centralization and decentralization, when it comes to the enfeoffment system and the county system, which one is in line with the historical trend, it must be discussed from the origin!"

"Why did the enfeoffment system appear?"

"That's because in ancient times, the management of the dynasty was constrained by limiting factors, such as geography, and information must be conveyed."

"A vassal, the limit he can manage lies in the farthest distance he can control the information conveyed."

"After exceeding this distance, it is impossible for these princes to know information from further places."

"So the area that a prince can manage is limited."

"This is the so-called enfeoffment system!"

"And what is divided into divisions?"

"That's all rights!"

"Military power, financial power, executive power, legislative power, law enforcement power"

"It can be said that this is the enfeoffment of all the powers owned by the dynasty."

"In ancient times, the enfeoffment system followed the historical trend and facilitated the management of the dynasty."

"However, with the advancement of science and technology, the speed of information transmission increases, and the territory and population that the dynasty can control increase, the disadvantages of the enfeoffment system will become more and more obvious!"

"The enfeoffment system will form a country within a country, and once the power of these countries within a country grows, it will be large enough to compete with the dynasty and the imperial power."

"Then they will raise their flags and rebel without hesitation."

"As a result, it fell into endless wars. It caused the entire dynasty to fall apart."

"So, when the imperial power can cover all areas, when the communication of information reaches a certain scale, for example, during the Qin Shihuang period."

"After this period, it is absolutely impossible to enfeoff. Enfeoffment will only create a country within a country, and it will only lead to division and war."

"However, Xiang Yu did not choose the county system, but chose the enfeoffment system, which is still the hegemony of the princes in the enfeoffment system."

"This malpractice is even more obvious. He fights every day, because it's not that he wants to fight, but because others disobey him and want to challenge his authority."

"He has to fight!"

"This is the bad consequence of adopting the enfeoffment system."

"If he's using the county system, then there's no such problem."

"Remove all these princes and kings and form a unified dynasty, so that there will be no battles and rebellions every year."

Li Longji snorted, he was also very clear about the origin of the enfeoffment system.

But it doesn't mean that he agrees that the enfeoffment system must be turning back the wheel of history.

He didn't come to argue with Chen Tong unprepared.

He has long been paying attention to the feudal system and county system, and the dispute between centralization and decentralization, especially when he saw the debates in Chen Tong's space that came from Chen Tong's era.

Many people say that Li Shimin is right.

His confidence is even stronger.

Li Sanlang, Lord of the Palace of Longevity: