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"The cruel official system is definitely a good system. The cruel official system is mainly aimed at officials and nobles, just to monitor their illegal activities!"

"But cruel officials are definitely not good people, and many of them are even villains."

"During Wu Zetian's time, the methods of cruel officials were also extremely cruel."

"I will never deny this!"

"However, do you want to look at the historical period Wu Zetian lived in and allow her to use conventional means to resolve social conflicts at that time?"

"She wants to destroy the entire aristocratic system, and the most famous of the aristocratic system is the protection of officials and officials, forming a huge network of interests."

"You are going to investigate these people. What conventional means can you use to tear through their defenses?"

"In the end, the reforms can only fail and leave sadly."

"So, when Wu Zetian was selecting cruel officials, she chose villains!"

"These villains, they have 7 characteristics, divided into four and three."

"Four nos: no status, no morality, no future, no support and no support."

"Three haves: have ambition, have courage, and have means."

"I don't discuss how insane the torturers are from the moral point of view. From a humanitarian point of view, I also condemn the various tortures they created. It is simply cruel and outrageous."

"However, we are discussing the system, not the character."

"Let's talk about the law and system, is there anything wrong with the cruel officials?"

"It can be said that there is nothing wrong with it!"

what?

There is nothing wrong with that!

Zhao Guangyi was so angry that he slashed wildly with his knife. If Chen Tong was in front of him at this moment, Zhao Guangyi would definitely chop Chen Tong up and feed him to the dogs.

At this moment, he felt that talking about it was not fun at all.

But it's a pity that, across the chat group, he has nothing to do with Chen Tong.

He could only pant heavily, like an angry bull.

Great Song God of War:

"You're talking nonsense!"

"Whether it's from the moral level or the legal level, cruel officials are absolutely unacceptable in the world!"

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Cao Cao narrowed his eyes, he was very interested in the cruel official system.

Friends of wives:

"I really want to know how the cruel officials handle the case."

"What we want to see is the most specific details, not the conclusions summarized by historians."

"How to judge, we have our own discretion."

The emperors didn't believe the historians' interpretation of the cruel officials, they just wanted to know the specific details of the cruel officials' handling of the case, whether the cruel officials were cool or not, the facts had the final say.

Chen Tong also has the same opinion. Don't keep saying that the cruel officials are immoral, that they invented torture, and how many people they killed. We have to see the facts.

In order to have a clear understanding in the heart.

Chen Tong:

"Then let's take a look at their handling methods."

"First, the cruel officials must first determine the object to be investigated. This object was collected by themselves, or Wu Zetian designated it for them."

"Secondly, upon receiving the task, these cruel officials began to use their connections to get the common people to report on those who need to be investigated."

"Third, according to legal procedures, when officials are reported by many people, they should go through the link of arrest and investigation. Cruel officials do not arrest people for no reason. They obey the law and act according to the law."

"Fourth, the cruel officials arrested these officials in accordance with the law, gathered all the resources of the cruel officials, frantically collected evidence, and began to confirm the various crimes committed by the officials."

"Here is the biggest misunderstanding. It is taken for granted to think that cruel officials are tortured into tricks."

"For example, the cruel official wants to investigate a person's treason, but the cruel official does not only investigate the case of an official's treason."

"Cruel officials will first investigate things that are easier to investigate, such as corruption and bribery, such as robbing civilian women, such as disregarding human lives, such as seizing fertile land, such as reselling salt and iron, etc."

"This kind of thing is commonplace among officials and nobles."

"These people's crimes must be confirmed first, and then the case can be settled step by step!"

"Use solid charges to destroy the psychological defenses of these officials and nobles step by step."

"Even if they cannot be sentenced to death for treason, with these evidences, they can torture according to law."

"Torture is also very particular. Cruel officials will not use torture as soon as they come up. It will not be effective. Instead, they will explain to the officials in detail how to use this torture tool and what is the effect?"

"Further destroying the inner line of defense of officials."

"The pursuit of the cruel officials is that it is best to make the other party confess without torture."

"After all, in the ancient law, it is possible to retract the confession after torture, but if there is no punishment, it is an iron case."

"Fifth, get the confession, judge according to the law, follow the vines, and then make the case bigger and stronger! More people are involved, this is the standard process."

"Don't think that cruel officials are using torture crazily. They are professionals and know how to beat these officials from the heart."

"They're all using espionage methods."

"In ancient times, how many officials were solitary and pure?"

"True officials use torture, which is the last step, and they also pay attention to surrendering without fighting!"

"I just asked, from the point of view of the legal procedure, is there any problem with the cruel officials handling the case?"

"Which step is illegal?"

Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty couldn't help but click his tongue, this is simply a talent, you can't catch any mistakes.

Even though it is far away, it will be punished (Eternal Sage King)

"Sure enough, the number one scholar will come out of every move!"

"No matter what the character of these cruel officials is, they act in accordance with the law, and all means comply with legal procedures."

"And it's not like someone said, directly to the big punishment, what kind of torture."

"People rely on their craftsmanship to make a living. In terms of criminal investigation and handling of cases, the ability of these cruel officials can beat those Dali Temple and the ten streets of the Ministry of Criminal Justice!"

"And, to be honest, in ancient times, officials were to be checked. As long as you dare to check, you will be sure once you check."

"There are so many people who are corrupt and break the law, take women from the people by force, collude with foreign enemies, and sell salt and iron privately."

"In ancient times, how many officials and nobles were there who really obeyed the law?"

"Didn't their wealth come from exploiting and squeezing the people at the bottom?"

"If you really want to obey the law, officials, you have to be the same as Zhu Yuanzhang in the Ming Dynasty. The poor can't even afford to support their families! Can you still wear fine clothes?"

Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty curled his lips. In that dynasty, the salaries of officials could not support the rich.

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Li Yuan was also very speechless. You can only say that Wu Zetian's cruel official system is inhumane and immoral, but you can't say that he is wrong.

The mediocre Patriarch Li (Heroic Lord in Troubled Times):

"One thing to say, from a procedural point of view, there is nothing wrong with the cruel officials handling the case."

"It's this kind of method that makes people feel timid and uncomfortable."

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Zhao Guangyi was really dumbfounded at this moment.

He found that he was so smart that he couldn't find any loopholes in it.

You said that the cruel officials wantonly planted the blame, and they were arrested and investigated, which was in line with the legal procedures at the time.

You said they used torture, but these people have already collected evidence from the surrounding area, and they have reached the level of torture, which is completely in compliance with the law.

It's as slippery as oil!

Zhu Di's eyes widened suddenly, and his heart was extremely shocked. He was so familiar with what Chen Tong said.

Execute Your Ten Clans (Hero Lord of the Prosperous Age):

"Isn't this the usual method of Jin Yiwei?"

"When Jin Yiwei investigates officials, he also likes to grab his braids first and attack the heart first."

"Then explain to these officials the various criminal laws of the Jinyiwei, which can scare the crap out of those officials at that time, and then explain it in detail."

"Even though Jin Yiwei has a lot of punishments, but the actual methods used are very few. That's because only a small number of people are able to do nothing!"

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Chen Tong laughed.

Chen Tong:

"You think it's familiar!"

"This Wu Zetian's cruel official system, developed to the final real role, it is the embryonic form of the Jinyiwei system."

"It's just that, during Wu Zetian's time, this system had not yet been formed and perfected."

"It wasn't until Hongwu Emperor Zhu Yuanzhang perfectly integrated Wu Zetian's spy system and Wu Zetian's intelligence network that the Jinyiwei system was created!"

"And Lai Junchen, the most ruthless official in Wu Zetian Dynasty, wrote a book "Luo Zhi Jing", which is full of introductions of various spy methods. This is the self-cultivation of Jin Yiwei."

"So, the cruel official system is not Wu Zetian's stain, but Wu Zetian's achievements. This provides a reference and reform direction for the future spy intelligence system."

"The cruel official system hit the nobles at that time, punished a large number of unjust officials, cleaned up the noble class, and allowed the social system to quickly and smoothly transition from the aristocratic era to the bureaucratic era."

"It can be said that merit in the present age and benefit in the future!"

"Make the methods of supervising officials more diverse, promote the spirit of the law more thoroughly, and crack down on the idea of ​​privilege! It has dealt a fatal blow to the Confucian school's heresy that cannot be punished as a doctor!"

"Therefore, it was also resisted by all bureaucratic groups!"