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"Looks like it really happened.

I was fooled by someone.

Who said that the prime minister in ancient times, his official position must be the prime minister?

If he is Shang Shuling, he is also the prime minister!

Changsun Wuji was the first prime minister during Li Shimin's period, even I know this.

Are you cheating enough? "

………………

Yue Fei felt that his mind was a little messed up, he really couldn't look at Liu Xiu directly now.

How much of this is fraudulent?

Even Li Shimin is now here to hammer out Liu Xiu's various problems.

bristle:

"You said Shang Shuling was not a prime minister, but the Shang Shuling of the Tang Dynasty was a prime minister. What do you say?"

"Can you stop fooling everyone's IQ?"

"Don't just cheat people just because they don't read history!"

"Is there any morals left?"

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Yang Guang was also full of disdain. Is this the emperor touted by Confucianism?

That's it?

He really thought enough was enough.

Infrastructure Maniac (Eternal Ruthless Lord):

"did you see it?

This is where Liu Xiu's fans are most ignorant.

The Shang Shu Ling of another family is the prime minister, but the Shang Shu Ling of his family is not the prime minister.

Isn't this bullshit?

By the way, the Minister of the Sui Dynasty was also the prime minister!

Do you feel that all three views have collapsed? "

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Chen Tong also laughed. At this moment, he had to correct everyone's concept.

Chen Tong:

"I know that many people will definitely say that his official position is not called prime minister, why should he be called prime minister?

In fact, you can take a look. Since the Sui and Tang Dynasties, Yanhuang has not had an official position called prime minister.

But can you say that there was no prime minister in the Sui Dynasty?

Can you say that there was no prime minister in the Tang Dynasty?

Can you explain that neither the Dynasty nor the Qing Dynasty had a prime minister?

How did the so-called four famous prime ministers of the Tang Dynasty, the first treacherous prime minister of the Ming Dynasty, and all kinds of strange prime ministers of the Qing Dynasty come about?

Therefore, many people don't understand the ancient bureaucratic structure at all, and they don't understand what a prime minister is, so they just brag about it.

How embarrassing are you for people who really understand history?

Are you still bragging that Liu Xiu has dispersed the prime minister?

He scatter a yarn.

He has obviously strengthened his power!

These people are just using your habitual thinking to convey wrong ideas to you.

They didn't even understand it themselves.

That's why I said, leave professional issues to professional people to analyze, don't just listen to what historians say, do they understand ancient politics? "

...............

It turned out to be the case.

Chongzhen waved his fist fiercely, he knew that Chen Tong would have a perfect explanation,

It turned out that the problem appeared in people's inherent concepts.

After the reform of the official system in the Sui and Tang Dynasties, the official position of prime minister did not exist at all.

But after the Sui and Tang Dynasties, was there a prime minister?

Of course there is!

Changsun Wuji, Fangmou Duduan, Yao Chongsongjing, Li Linfu, Di Renjie, Wang Anshi, Yu Qian, Zhang Juzheng...

Which one is not the familiar prime minister?

There are simply too many to count.

Why is there no prime minister?

Only then did Chongzhen realize that many people were secretly changing concepts.

Self-hanging southeast branch (the purest faint king):

"Let me just say, how could it be possible for the emperor, whom Confucianism admires, to strengthen the centralization of power?

What Confucianism clearly advocates is that the Son of Heaven will rule by hanging down.

What is important is to turn the emperor into a puppet.

If they brag about Liu Xiu like this, then Liu Xiu is probably a puppet!

How can a puppet have the ability to strengthen centralization?

It turned out that the problem was here.

Liu Xiu is just decentralizing the centralization of power, but people blow it up as strengthening the centralization of power. This is a lie! "

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Song Huizong was also confused at the moment, because he was also aware of this problem now.

It is true that the Tang Dynasty did not have an official position called a prime minister, but whether there was a prime minister in the Tang Dynasty is a well-known question, and there is no need to ask it at all.

Basically everyone knows.

He was also in a cold sweat at this moment, did his idol do another stupid thing?

Now he has to fight for his idol. After all, if Liu Xiu's achievements in reforming the official system are denied again, wouldn't Liu Xiu be useless?

Instead of strengthening centralization, he is decentralizing it.

This will be sprayed as a dog!

The most beautiful thin golden body:

"I checked just now. Changsun Wuji is not [Shangshuling] at all. Changsun Wuji's official position is called [Shangshu Youpushe]."

"How could this be the same as Liu Xiu's [Shang Shuling]?"

"The ones who really changed the concept are you!"

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Chen Tong laughed, and he just likes you to be so arrogant, to see if I don't slap you in the face.

Chen Tong:

"Then you should check carefully, Liu Xiu's Shangshutai, what are his specific official positions?

I'm very sorry, the main person in charge of Liu Xiu Shangshutai, that is, the top leader, his name is [Shangshu Ling].

But you thought it was over?

Why don't you keep looking down?

One official position for one department?

And Liu Xiu's second in command at Shangshutai, his name is [Shangshu Pushe]

And Changsun Wuji is [Shang Shu Pu She] under [Shang Shu Ling].

And let me tell you again, why is Changsun Wuji [Shang Shu You Pu She] instead of [Shang Shu Ling], and also [Shang Shu Pu She]?

That is because the [Shang Shu Ling] has too much power.

In the Tang Dynasty, although there was an entire official position of [Shang Shu Ling], no one would be allowed to sit in this position, at most people would become Shang Shu Ling's subordinates.

That is 【Shang Shu Pu She】.

But this is not enough.

Li Shimin, Li Zhi will continue to divide the power of the prime minister, so [Shangshu Pushe] also divides [Left and Right Shangshu Pushe] to check and balance.

But in fact, as long as you are regarded as [Left and Right Shangshu Pushe], you are basically the top leader of the Shangshu Province, and you have the greatest power among the prime ministers.

But in your official position, you are much lower than the top leaders of the Zhongshu Province and the Menxia Province. This is to limit the power of the Shangshu Province.

Changsun Wuji is called the prime minister because he became the [Left and Right Shangshu Pushe].

You can imagine how powerful Changsun Wuji's "Shang Shu Ling" is without him.

That would be bigger than you can imagine.

Because Shang Shuling is in charge of six departments, namely the Ministry of Officials, the Ministry of Rites, the Ministry of Industry, the Ministry of Punishment, the Ministry of Households, and the Ministry of War.

Let me give you a very simple example, so that you can experience how powerful Shang Shuling's power is.

The boss in the 6th department is the official department.

I believe everyone knows what the officials do!