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Don't you even know which historical data is highly reliable?

After a long time, Ban Gu, who lived in that era, did not know as much information as people 400 years later?

Especially when they are bragging now, they also like to combine "Book of Han" and "Book of Later Han" to make people feel that what they say is the same as the truth.

This is to show how awesome Liu Xiu is.

For this approach, I also served it.

This is obviously misleading! "

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Qin Shihuang's expression was not good.

It is actually more hateful for these people who understand history to pretend to be stupid.

He also didn't want to continue discussing this topic, and now it was time to draw a conclusion on Liu Xiu's Kunyang battle.

Great Qin True Dragon:

"Who still has an opinion on the battle of Kunyang now?

The Battle of Kunyang was not at all the so-called 3000 breaking 42, and there was no Han Guangwu Emperor who came like a myth.

This is nothing more than the end of Wang Mang's reign, and he has completely lost control of the dynasty.

So, there's really nothing to brag about.

And this kind of record is not considered to be against the sky. It is not at the same level as Xiang Yu's 3 breaking through 56. "

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Originally, when Qin Shihuang spoke, everyone knew that the matter had already been settled, so there was no need to discuss it.

But this time something really happened, Song Huizong didn't take Qin Shihuang seriously at all.

He was very unconvinced by Qin Shihuang's conclusion.

The most beautiful thin golden body:

"Of course I'm going to object!"

"You are wrong in saying that."

"Everyone knows that it was because of the victory in the battle of Kunyang that the Daxing Dynasty was pushed to its end."

"It's not what you said. The Daxing Dynasty won the battle of Kunyang only when it was on the verge of extinction."

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What the hell!

How dare you even doubt Qin Shihuang?

Zhu Di really wants to blow Song Huizong's dog's head right now, you don't even understand military affairs, you just draw straight lines on the map.

You still go against Qin Shihuang?

Where does the confidence come from?

Zhu Di wanted to spray people now.

Execute Your Ten Clans (Hero Lord of the Prosperous Age):

"That's why I also know that Wang Mang's demise is not Liu Xiu's battle of Kunyang at all.

The main reason for Wang Mang's demise was that he failed to reform and was abandoned by the entire social class.

This caused a series of economic, military, and institutional collapses.

The battle of Kunyang was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

How anti-intellectual are you to think that Liu Xiu won the battle of Kunyang and pushed Wang Mang to his death?

You are simply more beautiful than Liu Xiu!

How many donkeys kicked your brain?

You don't look at the historical environment at all, just open your mouth. "

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At this moment, even Liu Bang wants to scold her mother. Although Liu Xiu is from their old Liu family, you can't be so foolish!

You make me feel sick.

Not everyone who kills the white snake is Xu Xian (Sage Monarch of Deception):

"This is the first time I've heard such anti-intellectual remarks, saying that it was because Liu Xiu won the battle of Kunyang that Wang Mang went to ruin.

This is a typical inversion of cause and effect.

Let me give you an example so you can understand it easily.

Wang Mang lost miserably this time, but how does it compare with Liu Bang's Battle of Pengcheng?

Liu Bang was almost killed.

But after Liu Bang's fiasco, why did nothing happen?

Moreover, the strength is getting stronger and stronger?

That's because Liu Bang didn't have any problems inside.

But Wang Mang had huge internal problems, the failure of the Battle of Kunyang, and the rebellion everywhere at that time.

That is because social contradictions have reached an irreconcilable level.

You can be anti-intellectual yourself, but don’t say anti-intellectual remarks, don’t you think others are looking at you like a fool?

Please, let the old Zhao family go. "

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Song Huizong opened his mouth wide. He thought of Liu Bang being beaten into a dog by Xiang Yu, which seemed to be quite miserable.

The 56 coalition forces were basically wiped out, which was much more than Wang Mang's death toll.

But why didn't Liu Bang collapse?

Is his idea really wrong?

Song Huizong began to doubt life at this moment. In the past, those people always said that the reason why Wang Mang perished was because he lost the battle of Kunyang.

But now that he heard Liu Bang say that, he began to waver.

The key problem is that he has no way to oppose Liu Bang's point of view.

Because people are living examples.

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Li Shimin was speechless when he saw Song Huizong being sprayed, and knew that this matter had come to an end.

What he wants to do now is to step on Liu Xiu.

Qiangu Li Er (the ruler of the Ming Dynasty and the sinner):

"Now everyone has also seen the real battle of Kunyang.

Liu Xiu's performance in the battle of Kunyang, as well as his record, can only be regarded as the middle and upper reaches.

How can this be compared with Tang Taizong Li Shimin?

Without the mythical record of the Battle of Kunyang, how could Liu Xiu rank ahead of Li Shimin in the military! ?

So, I suspect that many of Liu Xiu's accomplishments are blown out!

If Li Shimin can be regarded as the goalkeeper of the Mingjun, then the excellent should be regarded as the goalkeeper of the Hunjun.

He is just a little stronger than Hunjun.

A mediocre monarch at best.

That is what people call 'Changjun', an ordinary monarch. "

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What the hell!

You are going too far!

Liu Xiu's nose is crooked, you stomped people too hard!

I can understand Cao Cao spraying, after all, our ancestor Liu Bang cheated him.

Moreover, Liu Bei, his descendant, fell in love with Cao Cao and killed each other again.

Cao Cao didn't want to see people from our old Liu family, but what enmity or resentment do I have with you, Li Er?

You have to belittle me.

How can I bear this?

Liu Xiu, who had been silent in the group, finally spoke. It was inconvenient for him to intervene in the battle of Kunyang because there was too much water in it.

But if you want to say that you, Li Shimin, are better than me, Emperor Guangwu of the Han Dynasty!

Then I don't agree!

You are just a Mingjun goalkeeper, but I have a thousand years of industry, no matter what, I am better than you!

Grand Magister:

"Has Li Erfen become active again?"

"Do you want to step on other emperors again?"

"Don't compare Li Shimin with Liu Xiu. Liu Xiu is the founder of the country. What is Li Shimin?"

"Don't tell me that Li Shimin has been directing his father since his mother's womb."

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Li Shimin's face darkened at that moment, as the saying goes, you don't expose your shortcomings when you swear, what do you mean by that?

Are you going to be tough with me?