New Shun 1730

Liu Yu stopped short of "slandering" the Protestant countries, and just mentioned in passing that all the native American colonists in the Protestant countries died.

Of course, Catholicism is not a good thing, but one thing is that the people in the old Christian colonies are indeed not dead.

It takes fifty steps to laugh, but sometimes you can really laugh.

The feeling of "human and beast" he mentioned can be regarded as clearing up many doubts that Qi Guogong has had in Europe for the past few years.

Looking back on every detail of the past few years in Europe, and the details of the intentional and unintentional conflicts of civilizations, an almost self-defeating explanation gradually took shape in Qi Guogong's mind.

At the same time, he seemed to understand better why Liu Yu had set his sights on those Protestant countries early on, whether it was the Netherlands or the United Kingdom, and even Prussia, which was planned to be pushed to the British side.

Duke Guo of Qi thought to himself, it seems that according to this statement, these Protestant countries are more extreme and easier to treat others as human beings?

However, Prussia didn't see anything that treated people as if they were animals, so it seemed quite normal for the time being.

When Liu Yu mentioned this doubt, he couldn't help it anymore and burst into laughter. He thought to himself that he was no longer a human being or a beast, so he ran straight to the soap, not even a beast anymore.

He smiled bitterly for a while and then said: "Prussia? Let's look at the future. If it can survive this anti-Protestant alliance that entangles the two sisters of Confucianism, the Old God, and the Orthodox Rakshasa, the future is unknown."

Gradually, Qi Guogong seemed to have thought of something and said with a smile: "Shou Chang, when you said that, it suddenly occurred to me that the combination you are going to pull is quite interesting."

"Is this tantamount to bringing together the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Old Catholic Church, and the famous religions of this dynasty to fight against the Protestant Church?"

"It shows that you are really wary of Protestantism. Do you think the threat from Catholicism is actually not that great?"

Liu Yu shook his head, nodded again and said, "Yes and no."

"I am always wary of God, but Catholicism cannot succeed. There are many dogmas, so it is difficult to spread them in this dynasty. Not to mention Eastern Orthodoxy."

"But for Protestants, it's a different story."

“Anywhere the sage’s learning wants to be reformed, it must be called retro.”

“The so-called new is often extremely old.”

"This is not the case in Europe. In this dynasty, Japan, and Korea, several new schools of thought may say, 'Song Confucianism will never be extinguished, but true Confucianism will not rise'; or it can be said that 'it is as close as Cheng Zhu's to Confucius and Mencius'. Then Are they considered new learning? Or old learning? After the Song Dynasty, they wanted to return to the learning of the pre-Qin Dynasty, but they called themselves new learning; while the learning of the Song Dynasty after the pre-Qin Dynasty became the old learning. "

"Replacing the new religion with the old religion, although they are different, the principles are the same. Change the new, change the new, the more you change, the more old you are, and the more you change, the more original you are."

"It's the old religion. In the future, there may be things like the Six Classics annotating me and I annotating the Six Classics. I don't know if the scriptures will be interpreted into something unexpected. The older Dongzheng, most of them have become Confucian and canonized Yansheng. The public was placed under the imperial power; the more recent Protestantism was the most likely to be radicalized, and the most fanatical belief was difficult to change and could not be changed at all. "

"The Jesuits and the Eastern Orthodox Church are all following the path of 'affiliating Confucianism and replacing Buddhism'. But since it sounds new, I feel that Protestantism must be more tolerant. It is absolutely impossible to follow the path of 'affiliating Confucianism and replacing Buddhism'." of."

"It's hard to say which one is more harmful. Maybe following Confucianism and seeking refuge in Buddhism is more harmful than fanaticism and fanaticism, and it's hidden deeper."

"But because each has its own Vatican and Patriarch, it is actually shackled. If it is not localized, it will be difficult to spread; if it is localized, it will not be allowed internally."

"This is because it is possible to spread in primitive civilized places such as America. But in this dynasty, it is actually extremely difficult."

"This is one of them."

Duke Guo of Qi was not worried about this. He waved his hand and said with a smile: "It is true that this is the way to follow Confucianism and establish Buddhism. But it just caught up with the good times. Since the end of the previous dynasty, many great Confucians felt that Song Confucianism was corrupted by Buddhism. , it is necessary to rectify its origins, otherwise Confucianism, which was influenced by Tianzhu Buddhism, will sooner or later relapse into the disaster of the late Ming Dynasty."

"Matteo Ricci was able to find opportunities to seize good opportunities. But if he continues to adhere to Confucianism and Buddhism, some things will conflict after all."

"He followed Confucianism to refute Buddhism, and then re-annotated the Six Classics and reinterpreted the name of God. But those who opposed Song Confucianism and wanted to get rid of the influence of Buddhism, how could they not be able to distinguish this?"

"Remove old stains, but add new stains?"

"It's just that this dynasty destroyed Confucianism in the Song and Ming Dynasties without establishing new ones, but there were few great Confucian scholars who established new enlightenments after destroying it. But the more rigid they are, the harder it will be for them to follow Confucianism and refute Buddhism."

"What you say makes sense. As long as this dynasty bans it, the Holy See still has instructions, and it will be difficult to spread."

"When I was in France, a man named Voltaire in France heard that China banned Christianity and said: Do Catholics in China listen to the emperor? Or do they listen to the Holy See? If they listen to the Holy See, which emperor would allow his subjects to serve him? Where is the other emperor?"

"Since this is true, it can indeed be controlled. What's the second thing?"

Liu Yu thought for a moment and did not answer the second question directly. Instead, he asked: "My father-in-law, do you think Buddhism or White Lotus Maitreya is the biggest danger?"

The White Lotus Sect is a professional rebel and they will rebel against everyone. Duke Qi just smiled and didn't even answer the question.

Liu Yu added: "The Protestant religion's so-called justification by faith and the printing of scriptures have broken away from the old religion and are not subject to the control of the Holy See. In fact, it is very easy to follow the path of becoming the White Lotus Maitreya from Buddha."

Speaking of this, Qi Guogong couldn't help but take a breath, and after thinking about it carefully, it seemed that it was indeed possible.

Although Qi Guogong has been to Europe many times, from Rakshasa to France, to all Orthodox and Protestant countries, it is extremely difficult to truly distinguish the differences between these sects.

However, since religion was banned in Dashun, many Bible versions were burned. Judging from the surface, many ministers in Dashun could still easily "distinguish" the differences between these sects.

Of course, the difference is only superficial.

The Bible translated by the Nestorians was called the True Scripture and the Old Law.

There are also two different translations among the factions within the old religion.

The Jesuit translation of the name is "God."

The Dominicans considered God a heretic and used the word "Dous".

The eclectic faction did not want to rebel against the Holy See, but also wanted to be localized. They used the word "Tianzhu", taking the word "Tianzhu" from "Historical Records: Fengchan Shu", "One day is called Tianzhu, and the temple is Qi".

But the word God has actually been rejected, because someone translated Sima Qian's "Book of Fengchan" to the Roman side. After God, there is a sentence: "One is called God, and the temple is Qi. The sky is Qi Yuanshui, and he lives at the foot of the mountain in the southern suburbs of Linzi."

If we use the word God, it is equivalent to saying that the mountain south of Zibo is the Holy Mountain of God, so in fact, the term Catholicism does not exist in theory.

When the Orthodox Church translated, they tried their best to avoid these problems and used the concepts of "Word" and "God". The Gospel of John begins with "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God." But soon, it was rejected by the higher authorities, because the concept of "Tao", according to the Western vocabulary, was a bit biased towards the Greek concept.

As for the Protestant scriptures, they had not yet been translated.

Duke Guo of Qi thought about the translation issues of Dongzheng and Tianzhu during the ban on Christianity, as well as the many disputes caused by translation issues, and seemed to have some understanding.

It seems that Liu Yu means that these are all a group of biting dogs.

But Eastern Orthodoxy and Old Christianity are chained.

Even if someone like Matteo Ricci seized the opportunity in the late Ming Dynasty to reflect on the influence of Confucianism by Buddhism and vigorously pursued the "correct" line of localization and substitution, he was urgently stopped by the Holy See.

Just by deciding which words to use to translate "God", "God", and "god", the old believers have been making money for almost a hundred years.

Protestantism, on the other hand, is like a bunch of mad dogs without a chain. Not sure what it will be like.

This is the problem between "Buddhism" and "White Lotus Maitreya" mentioned by Liu Yu.

Dashun does not regard Catholicism as a cult, but only regards it as a conflict of civilizations. The ban on Christianity is a dispute between the imperial power and the Holy See. The cultural confrontation is now the Confucian scholar-bureaucrats and missionaries competing for "Tao", "Heaven", "God", The right to explain "Tai Chi", "Qi" and the like.

This is different from White Lotus Maitreya.

However, Liu Yu is not just being alarmist. In fact, Protestantism, which is in the name of reform and innovation, is actually a restoration of the original religion, and it is very easy to spawn many strange sects.

At this time there were no translations of the Bible by Protestant missionaries.

However, in the history of the Protestant version, there was a famous localized demon modification routine.

For example, Protestantism emphasizes that each country translates the Bible on its own, and there will be no debate about whether it is God, God, or God, as was the case in Catholicism in the late Ming Dynasty.

Therefore, the first Protestant edition translated the Holy Spirit as Holy Wind.

As a result, the localization of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, which was rejected as a trinity, was put into full play.

Since there is holy wind, why can’t there be holy wind, rain, thunder, lightning and the five great Dharma Kings?

Then there were the Holy God Wind Dharma King Yang Xiuqing, the Holy God Rain Dharma King Xue Chaogui, the Holy God Electricity Dharma King Wei Changhui... these were the five Dharma Kings of Wind, Rain, Thunder and Lightning.

If the "Holy Spirit" prescribed by the Catholic Church were rigidly used instead of the five great Dharma kings exposed by wind, rain, thunder and lightning, it would not be able to spread so quickly.

This is an example similar to Buddhism's conversion to Maitreya.

China is very special. It is a civilization disguised as a country.

Therefore, especially in history, any direct intervention by an "international" headquarters will inevitably fail. Only if the "international" headquarters is left alone and localization is used here can it have a huge impact.

Even in Buddhism back then, it was the locals who solved the problem of "a bhikkhu needs ten monks to be formal, but there is not a single bhikkhu in the local area, so local methods can solve the problem from 0 to 1."

Eastern Orthodoxy and Catholicism both have international headquarters, and formalist dogma is very serious.

At this point, Liu Yu considered Dashun's national conditions as a trump card to deal with the Protestant countries.

If we say that the difference between "human beings and beasts" mentioned earlier only made the emperor feel uncomfortable, but he felt that there was a difference between humans and beasts, humans and tigers. After all, the Celestial Empire was very powerful at this time and there was no need to worry about being sent away by the Protestant countries. hell.

But this "Buddhism turns to the danger of Maitreya" is a special effect pain point for Emperor Dashun.

Moreover, the truth behind this is indeed easy to understand.

A dog on a chain and a mad dog without a chain are completely different.

Of course, there is another issue that can be exploited here, which is the rhetoric Liu Yu said in France, "China and France will be the strongest fortress of the monarchy."

In fact, no matter how you look at it, China and France look like the strongest bulwarks of a radical republic whose crown will be shattered and no one will dare to take it away.

At this time, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom, which seem to be less monarchical, may be the strongest fortress of the monarchy.

The reason why Britain and the Netherlands have the current system is not because of Protestantism or Old Christianity.

However, if one person has red palms, he or she has liver disease; if two people have red palms, they still have liver disease... Will this lead people to conjecture that there is a connection between the two?

This is a thought before the emperor.

Liu Yu doesn't think about these things, and neither does Qi Guogong.

But once Protestantism was forcibly linked to the Dutch and British systems, the emperor would definitely think about it.

It should be said that under the background of the ban on Christianity in Dashun and the British liberalization of tea tax as a bargaining chip.

Liu Yu's three consecutive qualities of "people and animals", "Buddha turns to Maitreya", and "British-Dutch system" will greatly affect the emperor's judgment.

Those uninformed Westerners said that Liu Yu was Dashun's "foreign minister behind the scenes", but in fact Liu Yu knew very well that he was not at all.

At best, he is just a member of the diplomatic and state affairs department of a small circle similar to the "King's Secret" under King Louis of France.

It was the emperor who really decided the direction of Dashun's policy.

He could only seduce the emperor, but could not make his own decisions.

He had thought about this very clearly from beginning to end. This is what Tian Zhenyi meant when he said that if you want to do things, you must have a correct attitude and become a "eunuch".

With the blessing of this three-level alliance, the alliance with France to fight against Britain was not just a financial, taxation, and trade dispute in India, but also had a special aura of a "holy alliance."

Russia, France, and China, the three countries with the most "solid" monarchy, the least likely to have a revolution, and the least likely to have a crown, will unite to launch a "sacred encirclement and suppression" of the Anglo-Dutch model.

Moreover, it seems that Dashun banned Catholicism, but in fact this ban only deepened the connection with France. To a certain extent, this can be regarded as paving the way for the subsequent expulsion of the Jesuits from France.

Because Qi Guogong talked about Dashun's ban on Catholicism but alliance with France, and the attitude of the French king.

"From what I see, the Dharma King may not say anything about the expulsion of the Jesuits and Dominicans, but he may not support it in his heart."

"This court makes it clear that as long as the Holy See allows Chinese believers to worship their ancestors, worship gods, and worship the Confucian temple of Zhou Gong. Following the monks and Taoists' ultimatum system, the ceremonial government will supervise the country's Catholics, and the ceremonial government will appoint the archbishop of the Chinese diocese instead of being under the control of Rome. Then it doesn’t mean that preaching is not allowed.”

"Louis the King of France also asked me many times how our dynasty solved the problem of 'a great Confucian scholar deceiving the emperor with great righteousness'."

Liu Yu smiled and asked, "How did your father-in-law answer?"

Duke Guo of Qi also smiled, shook his head and said: "What can I say? The French imprisoned the Pope, and this dynasty demoted Shenggong Yan as the enshrined prince, the chief sacrificer to Zhou Gong, and Zhongni to replace Yanhui, and they went down in turn. I established micro-management Zhongwu and his hair. Zuo Ren's plaque was insulting, and the founding prince established his own Wude Palace system to resist etiquette. "

"I said at that time that even if the Buddha is resurrected and comes to this dynasty, he must be an earl and must be under the enshrined prince."

"And, it is either hereditary, or the ceremonial government appoints and selects disciples to succeed."

"You also know that because of his fondness for beautiful concubines and doting on his concubines, the King of France was detained by the bishop to confess and forced him to admit his mistakes. During the days when I was in France, the King of France mentioned this matter more than once, which shows how much hatred he has in his heart."

"The law of banning religion in this dynasty was also supported by French famous Confucian scholars such as Voltaire; and in his court, the attitude of the King of France was also the same. Although it is not stated clearly, from my perspective, France will do the same in the future. Something like that.”

"When I went this time, His Majesty also wanted me to see France's true attitude towards the ban on Christianity and the expulsion of the Jesuits. I originally wanted to make more good friends in order to prepare for a long-term alliance. Now it seems that there is no problem."

Liu Yu laughed loudly and said: "There would be no problem in the first place. France and Nalumi have also formed an alliance, so what problem can there be?"

"My father-in-law returns to Beijing this time. In front of His Majesty, I still want to talk about the affairs of the Protestant countries."

"Many people in the DPRK say that I am the one who likes to be cured and not sick."

"This Englishman is not a good person. The opium issue is indeed not serious now. If it really becomes serious, he must be deeply hated, and only then will he realize his wolfish ambitions."

"However, I would rather take credit for being cured and not getting sick than wait until the illness is really severe before doing Xinglin."

"This is true for attacking the Japanese, this is true for conquest, and this is true for joining forces with France, seizing seals, and fighting against the British."

"I would rather be ridiculed and take credit for being able to cure illnesses, than I would never want a student to have to hang his head to prove that he is right."

“I would rather be labeled as a belligerent and merit-seeking person, a provocateur, and a profit-seeker in the history books than to be a frequent visitor to poetry through the ages who laments the tragedy and pity.”

"Your Majesty, I would like to ask you to know that the Western countries are becoming more and more powerful, and the construction of warships cannot be suspended. Since ancient times, there has been no one in Chang'an who has not visited the Western Regions. Nowadays, Nanyang has been established, Cao Mi has moved south, Malacca is the Jade Gate, and the spring breeze is coming. Don't hesitate again and again. It must be decided that the national strategy should not be revised, and those people who are just as righteous as snow should be allowed to oppose the tide. "