New Shun 1730

No policy can benefit everyone.

Liu Yu felt that it was quite rare for them to be able to think of this, so he smiled and said: "That's right. It's really troublesome to think so. From different perspectives, the meaning of going to Nanyang is different. Speaking of which, if If the imperial court does not send troops, it will really allow you to take over Java and Batavia. What are you going to do?"

"What if the imperial court does not send troops, and we only rely on our rebel army to capture Java and Batavia?" Niu Eryi was startled. He had thought about this problem before, but when it came to specific policies, it was a bit vague.

"If this is the case, the red-haired ghosts will naturally be driven away, and the land of the red-haired ghosts around the city will also be confiscated. But in order to stabilize people's hearts, there are revenge and injustice. Those who contracted the sugar cane plantations of the Sugarcane Ministry, those who The people of the Tang Dynasty who pay taxes and serve as Lei Zhenlan Kapitan to red-haired ghosts will probably have to be killed again, their property will be distributed to the people, and exorbitant taxes and miscellaneous taxes will be cancelled..."

Hearing this, Liu Yu laughed and said: "That's nonsense. If you really succeed, I think you leaders will take over the sugar factory in at most three to five years. Don't mention others, just my family. In the previous dynasty, our ancestors were poor. . When the Holy Dynasty conquers the world, won't it occupy a lot of land as a reward? My family's surname was Xu in the previous dynasty, and my surname is Liu now. "

"The sugar cane gardens, sugar mills, and spice hills of the Ministry of Sugar, these are basically new people replacing the old ones. If you really drive away the Dutch on your own, the new people will be you; but now that the imperial court has sent troops, it is difficult for the new people to be you. That’s all.”

"If you want to engage in these things, how can you do it without capital? However, you have to be more open-minded."

"The imperial court wants to go to Nanyang, and there are many rich people in Jiangnan. The sugarcane department originally belonged to the VOC, and those people were just contractors. Now that the Dutch have been driven away, if we really want to contract out, as long as we make money, not all the rich people in Jiangnan will work hard. Are you trying to squeeze in here?"

Liu Yu's point is not to ridicule that the "ambitions" of second-class people will deteriorate.

Instead, he gave Niu Er a slight click. However, this basic attitude blurred whether it was the court's intention, the emperor's intention, or his intention.

But in short, it is impossible to divide plantations such as spice hills and sugar cane fields. Instead, the old system must continue to be used and specially contracted by people.

In terms of production efficiency, large-scale plantations will definitely produce better quality products than growing rice or coffee in small plots.

This is actually a disguised endorsement of the governance idea of ​​treating Nanyang as a colony rather than as a native land.

The uprising of employees in the Batavia sugar factory could easily touch the fragile nerves of the imperial court.

Although Liu Yu tried his best to downplay the nature of the matter in the court, in fact some knowledgeable people in the court saw the problem.

Tens of thousands of people are engaged in the industry of producing a certain commodity. Once this commodity fails to jump and cannot be sold, what will these tens of thousands of people do?

Small farmers are self-sufficient and do not commercialize all their products. What they grow is food, which they can sell or eat themselves without selling it.

However, sugar factories and spice mounds employ tens of thousands of workers in total. Secondly, if they cannot sell the goods, slave labor uprisings that have already occurred will break out. The "insightful people" of the imperial court are not convinced. Quite worrying.

After all, it has really happened once.

What the court fears most is chaos.

The small-scale peasant economy is nothing more than two things.

Natural disasters, corrupt officials.

Natural disasters are unavoidable, but corrupt officials and corrupt officials should be dealt with a little bit by the government.

Coupled with the overall policy of suppressing annexation, although everyone knows that sooner or later it will die, but if the general situation is taken care of, it can still survive for two to three hundred years.

However, this kind of plantation economy, or the sprouting of the factory system, must also consider economic laws. This is the weakness of the far-sighted people in the court.

At this moment, I would like to ask the officials of the day, why was it so hard to sell Batavia’s candy in the past few years? Why was it so easy to sell before? It's not that Liu Yu underestimated them, nine out of ten couldn't answer them at all.

Since I don’t understand, then just ban it. Wouldn’t there be no danger?

Since such an incident had already happened in Batavia, Liu Yu said that for Sugarcane Department and Spice Hill, the original policy was still the same, but new people were replaced by old ones.

That is to say, Nanyang will not be regarded as the mainland for the time being. If something happens, there is no need to worry about the war. As long as the navy is there, it will only destroy one island at most.

As soon as he mentioned it, Niu Er immediately rejected the idea that was not "right" during yesterday's discussion, such as dividing the land of the plantation and sugar cane garden.

So I tentatively talked about the system that was the most discussed last night and that I felt was the most suitable.

It is nothing more than a continuation of the Dutch's original policy in the Burangan-Bandung area, with some slight changes.

"If the imperial court treats Nanyang as its homeland, everything should be based on the ideal system of the imperial court. It should be said that the land should be divided into small pieces for individuals. The middlemen should be eliminated, and the imperial officials would collect rent directly."

"But although this is a good thing, it is just like the thirty-year tenancy system envisioned by the Gurus. It sounds good, but it is difficult to implement."

"Moreover, by doing so, I offended not only the village chief but also the nobles of the chiefdom."

"We thought, if we try to please both the village president and the chiefdom nobles, wouldn't that be considered a gimmick? It's meaningless, and it's not called a voyage to Nanyang."

"And if we can please the village president and suppress the chiefdom nobles, it seems to be much easier."

"The village head or the rich man will contract the land. As long as they pay the taxes, the governor will not care about the rest. The land they contract will be rented to the villagers of the village. We don't care how much tax they collect. As long as they pay the governor's regulations, they will do the rest."

"There are three benefits to this."

"First, make money and guarantee profits."

"Second, if the villagers of the village are dissatisfied, they are opposing the local land contractors, the masters above them. The governor's office can kill a few appropriately to appease the people's grievances, and it can also be praised by the people."

"Third, in this way, the village heads and local rich people will stand on our side. The chieftains above them will not be able to speak, and they don't have to fulfill their feudal obligations. Because we have our support. In other words, we let the village heads, land contractors, and local wealthy people fight against those chiefdom nobles and disintegrate them. "

"The governor changes, but the master remains. And it doesn't take too many people to manage. "

"For the villagers, the village heads are the middlemen between them and the governor; for us, they are also the middlemen who collect taxes for us. Without these middlemen, it is difficult for the court to rule such a large Nanyang where most of the people are barbarians. "

"Even, they can be given the power to completely control the villagers. "

"However, we can also feel that there will be big problems in doing so, and something big may happen in the future. "

Speaking of this, Niu Er secretly looked at Liu Yu's face, hoping to see something from Liu Yu's expression. This is not a formal test, but just a tentative way to talk about his own ideas.

He did not fully affirm that his ideas must be feasible, but said that he took into account that there would be problems and something big would happen in the future.

However, Liu Yu just listened quietly and did not express his opinion immediately.

Without criticizing it from a moral point of view, to some extent, it can be said that it is an inevitable trend after the sailing ship connected the world market.

Just like the plantation economy in Brazil and the South before the American Civil War.

The owners of the means of production promoted the most barbaric slavery, but the purpose was to provide raw materials for the most advanced production methods at that time.

The Chinese slaves used by some sugar factories in Batavia before were basically similar to variant slavery. The purpose was also to provide goods to Western European merchants with the most developed commercial capitalism.

Or, it is similar to the reprinted serfdom in Central Europe after the Thirty Years' War.

It seems to be a regression, but from the perspective of the capitalist market of the whole world, the reprinted serfdom is nothing more than a "perversion of commercial capitalism."

The previous serfdom was to maintain a self-sufficient manor.

The reprinted serfdom is that the village chiefs and large landowners fully participate in the world market and provide various raw materials for the development of capitalism.

The grain, livestock, grapes, and timber in Central Europe are not for the manor itself, but for investment in the capitalist market in Western Europe to make money.

On the whole, they still serve the capitalists in Amsterdam or London.

The policy that Niu Er envisioned to be implemented in Java was essentially to serve the Dashun capitalists gathered in Songjiang and other places.

Because Dashun's commercial capital needs indigo, spices, cotton, and coffee.

The village heads of those villages were forcibly twisted into serf owners, and the villagers of the villages were twisted into serfs, fixed on the land. They were used to produce the raw materials and hobbies needed by the world market, Dashun's commercial capital and industrial capital.

Since the world market was linked together by sailing ships, the emergence of this "perversion of commercial capitalism" was inevitable.

If it is not disassembled, it is just a part of the capitalist system based on Dashun in the East, although even Dashun is still in a non-spontaneous budding state.

However, the re-serfdom in Central Europe was caused by the development of capitalism and urbanization in Western Europe, which led to a surge in demand for food raw materials; the internal cause was the lack of strength of the urban and merchant classes, which made the feudal lords accustomed to the simple and crude ruling methods of the past, and because they were too close to Western Europe, they had to fully participate in the capitalist system.

Java was purely caused by strong external interference. It may take a stormy speed to complete this unconscious transformation of the village head.

Liu Yu's reason for going to Southeast Asia was not consistent with the emperor's. But from his point of view, Niu Er's idea was a feasible means.

Although he did not support it very much, the reason for his non-support was not out of conscience.

Rather, it was because doing so would make the market in Southeast Asia small, suitable for the development of commercial capitalism, but not conducive to the future development of Dashun's industry, which had already developed steam engines.

The market within Dashun was too small, and the impact on the small peasant economy might cause the Dashun court to be frightened and quickly reverse.

Whether going to Southeast Asia, seeking help from India, or thinking about cooperating with the Dutch, what Liu Yu has always been looking for is the market.

But the policy envisioned by Niu Er is of no benefit to expanding the market.

Liu Yu does not stand on the side of commercial capital.