New Shun 1730
Chapter 359 Three people walking together will not go far
Although Liu Yu was smiling, Chen Qinghai heard something different from this sentence. After following Liu Yu for so long, he still had an understanding of Dashun's political structure.
Dashun allowed and even encouraged scholars to form associations to discuss politics. This was the legacy of Taizong. The reason why it was not abandoned soon like the female official system was because the Emperor Dashun had a group of good family members who were unlikely to form parties and associations.
If the good people can form associations and parties, the emperor will definitely eliminate them as soon as possible. It doesn't matter if the scholars form associations. No matter how powerful they are, they don't have the barrel of a gun.
But if the gunman formed a gang on his own, the emperor would definitely not allow it.
How could he not know the depth? He hurriedly said: "My lord, it's not true. It's just that when your lord was in Tosa, we were floating on the sea and had a leisurely discussion."
"Actually, the main thing is that if there are 400,000 military exploits that can be divided into enfeoffments, Nanyang and India can be easily obtained. The navy will take 100,000 and the army will take 300,000. Is this enough?"
"What do you think, sir?"
Liu Yu was noncommittal and laughed: "This matter... Hey, Qinghai, Qinghai..."
He smiled and shook his head, he needed to think about this carefully.
If we do this, we will definitely create a most conservative class of hundreds of thousands armed with guns in the future.
Originally, his positioning of Liangjiazi and Fubing was conservative, and he was very clear about this: when the world is more reactionary than conservative, conservatism is progress; but when the world begins to change, conservatism is reactionary.
It's just that the military aristocracy, compared to the gentry aristocrats who are religious priests, is just choosing the less smelly one between the two piles of garbage.
That's why he left the students from good families with excellent foundations unused, and insisted on spending a lot of money to develop practical schools, train civilians, and gradually eliminate the military cadets who were filled with good families.
But Chen Qinghai's idea was even more ruthless, and he was completely draining Liu Yu's plan: since the number of civilian children in the Jinghai Palace gradually increased, he would directly bring them into the ranks of the small military nobles, and everyone would become one family. People, don’t they have differences?
Originally there were only so many seats, and everyone was very divided. Now the world is so big and vast, wouldn't it be better to go outside and find a seat for yourself? Everyone has a gun, and the Japanese country has a ready-made enfeoffment system. Isn’t this a free gift of 400,000 military positions?
In the future, will ordinary people choose to stand up for the happiness of the majority and fight against injustice? Or directly join the ranks of the new aristocrats who are military officers and students during the period of rising national power?
This choice requires no in-depth consideration.
Conquering Mongolia is of little benefit to the officers and students. The common people may go to cultivate wasteland, but the officers and students cannot go there to become serf owners herding sheep.
Conquering the Western Region would be of little benefit to the officers and students. Instead, they have to squat in places where mosquitoes are like clouds, reclaiming wasteland, guarding borders, and garrisoning.
Conquering Nanyang is still of little benefit to the officers and cadets. Most of them are a group of religious people, and it is still a primitive village communal system. Wherever they are enfeoffed, there are many diseases, and the probability of survival is only 50%. Besides, that is the interest of the trading company. Even if there are shares, the temptation is still smaller than the land seal.
Only Japan is very different.
The feudal system was deeply rooted in the hearts of the people, and the people were accustomed to the tribute-rice system. There were not many temples and houses in the countryside, and the literate population was very small. The samurai in the ruling class were all soldiers, and they all lived in castle towns, so they had little influence in the countryside.
The warriors are all soldiers, and if they are wiped out, their power will be vacuumed.
For military officers and cadets who aspire to be small landowners and nobles, this is a heaven-sent place.
The Five Publics and Five Citizens are still so stable. So at least changing the Five Publics and Five Citizens to an eleven tax or even a five-day tax would not be a benevolent government. Isn’t it easy to sit still?
According to Liu Yu's vision, a new literate class would cultivate a large number of marginalized people outside the Confucian examinations. In the future, the imperial examinations would either be reformed or the world would be in chaos.
But what Chen Qinghai means is that we, the literate class outside of Confucianism, don’t want the domestic cake, and we are going to grab the cake outside. Domestic civil examinations can be carried out in whatever way you like. What remains the same is that those who study practical knowledge should serve as soldiers, and wouldn't it be better to become local landlords outside?
Although he may not have thought that way, and his idea may even be a very simple idea of "following the example of Zhou Gong's enfeoffment and transforming the two thousand years of the Central Plains' basic structure," the consequences of this matter once he started doing it would be somewhat difficult to control.
Liu Yu is afraid that in the new army and navy after the military reform, the middle and lower-level officers and students generally have this idea and even form associations. That would be interesting...
Chen Qinghai looked up at Liu Yu who was laughing and hesitating. He felt that his idea was very good and everyone supported it, and he would be more motivated to fight and expand territory in the future. In addition, Ying Suobo has always been at odds with the civil servants in the DPRK and China. No matter how you look at it, Liu Yu should support his idea.
For a long while, Liu Yu felt that this matter needed to be carefully considered and the pros and cons weighed. It was better not to express his position easily at this time, so he first found a reason and said: "Qinghai, there has always been a situation in the country where the Han Dynasty was destroyed by force. They are all knighted for military merit. If you say these words now, you will add fuel to the fire in the court. When the time comes, someone will stand up and say that if you do this, everyone will want to fight. To attack the Qin Dynasty without mercy, to resort to force and to promote military success may lead to disaster. "
"I'll discuss this matter later. Let's finish this battle first. Anyway, the Japanese country is here and can't escape. After this battle, it will be like a piece of cake in the future. You can cut off a piece today and a piece tomorrow. You can cut it off at any time. There’s no rush.”
Chen Qinghai let out a long sigh. He often heard Liu Yu talk about matters in the DPRK, and he was very familiar with this topic.
He clenched his fist and hit the ship's side shield hard. He looked up to the sky and sighed: "In the past, at the end of the Ming Dynasty, there were only a hundred or so people in the East, and they almost sank into China. Now we are like a lion fighting a rabbit, let go Why can't we replace the Japanese country, which is a land of feudalism and separation of peasants and soldiers, with the "Eight Banners"? We will be destroyed by force today and we will be destroyed by force tomorrow."
"Soldiers fight to the death and survive, just to find a wife and a son, so as to leave some inheritance for their children and grandchildren. If the real estate is outside, it will not take away the land of the scholar-bureaucrats, let alone the land of the people in the country, so why not go outside?"
"In the Japanese countryside, there are not many temples and houses, and most of the people are illiterate. The Chinese culture has penetrated deeply, and the literate warriors will kill every one they see, which is only 400,000. If this method is implemented, after a hundred years, the Japanese people will be the same as the Chinese. This is not Religious Nanyang is not a grassland that can only be used for grazing..."
The anger turned into the sound of a fist hitting the side of the ship. Liu Yu patted him on the shoulder and comforted him: "We will discuss this matter later."
Chen Qinghai sighed, glanced around, and sighed: "Sir, I think it is too difficult to do things in the country. If Wendeng's changes are to be promoted nationwide, it will take the year of the monkey and the month of the horse. Please forgive me for saying something unpleasant. "
"explain."
"Adults always want to do things, but they may not be able to accomplish what they do. The state allocates land based on the land. Although the tax is low, the land rent is actually high. In addition, small households are allocated the most, so that some land only costs two or three taels of silver per acre."
"If you buy from a small household, you will lose all your money due to apportionment, mu tax, and natural disasters. Therefore, one acre of land may produce one tael of silver a year, but the land price is only two, three, or three to five taels."
"Buying for large households can not only avoid taxes, but also protect against natural disasters, and there is no need to pay for it."
Speaking of this, Chen Qinghai directly asked a question that has been lingering in Liu Yu's heart: "In your business, workshop, trade... How many of them can guarantee a higher rate of return than buying land? Assuming that the land costs only three taels of silver, the big family can If you buy it, you can get 50% of the land rent, and you can get your capital back in three years. Do you really have that much ability to ensure that the annuity dividend rate is above 30%? If it is lower than this, will everyone buy land or invest?"
"My lord has been telling us all day about the national debt of Western banks. Your Majesty thinks that the imperial court can give us 30% interest per year? If we can't pay this interest, why should we raise treasury bonds? Big households will buy land with their money." Isn’t it good? It’s more profitable than the national debt that adults say, and it’s more valuable, and you don’t have to worry about the government defaulting on your debt.”
"We, Dashun, have our own national conditions here. There are many good strategies, but I'm afraid I can't learn and use them."
"The British land rent is low and they are permanently tenanted, so they force the people to merge their fields in order to make a profit. In this dynasty, the land rent is often 50%, so why bother to merge their fields and seek profits?"
"Wen Deng's rent reduction and permanent tenancy, do you really have the ability to promote it across the country? If you dare to do this, you will die. If you can't do domestic affairs, you really can't do it."
"Your Excellency also said that the country has seven to eight hundred million acres of land, not to mention thirty tax dollars, but twenty tax dollars. The annual income of the country is only 30 million. If you calculate it, twenty taxes dollars are enough. Your Excellency has really seen Where’s the tax on twenty-one?”
"In this case, why not seal it outside? If you can't buy and sell in other places, then the income from the seal may be consumption to stimulate your trade and workshops; or you can't buy land and can only invest in shares to make money. So, isn't it? Is it a good thing?”
"Those who have made military achievements and invested in trade, arms, warships, cloth, glass, coal, iron, and smelting... must wholeheartedly fight foreign wars to seize the market mentioned by your Excellency. They not only seek to gain more military achievements, but also seek more profits from investment. The best of both worlds. When the time comes, all the officers and students who have been granted the title will be willing to expand their territory and take possession of Western lands to sell their goods."
Liu Yu was shocked by Chen Qinghai's words and thought to himself, what is this? Juncker? Chaebol? Do you want to squeeze investment in industrial construction at home, and expand your military abroad or go to war to expand the market?
From the beginning, whether it was the military reform of the new army or the navy, Liu Yu was established based on the moral standards of this era, and there was not much ideological education that was not in line with the times.
The military mentality is like a wasteland, and he does not grow food, but allows weeds to grow. But he really didn't expect that this kind of idea would spontaneously evolve internally, which was quite unexpected.
Liu Yu was stunned for a long time, tilted his head and asked: "In your opinion, tinkering from top to bottom, even if Duke Jing is resurrected and Taiyue is reborn, nothing will change?"
Chen Qinghai thought to himself that this is not what I thought, but I heard you say a few words on weekdays. Sir, you didn't say it clearly, but after thinking about it myself, I just felt that it was useless.
Besides, Wang Jinggong and Zhang Taiyue, let alone resurrected, did not accomplish anything while they were still alive.
He thought about it for a while, his expression very solemn.
"Sir, I am not Mi Ziming, who has known you since childhood, has a similar mind, and has learned everything I have learned. Nor am I Du Feng, who first met you on the Songhua River and pursues fame and fame. I usually seek the title of Hou Bo. Talk less, think more.”
"Yon Ziming was originally a boy in an adult's family. He worked as a servant for more than ten years and became a man in one day. I can't agree with some of the words he said. Du Feng was devoted to fame and begging for a title. He left Wude Palace and transferred to Jinghai School for this reason. , studying French and Latin geometry every day is also for this reason.”
"I just wanted to make a living. I didn't want to be a teacher, just to find a way out. But after following the adults for a long time, I learned a lot. Sometimes I would think about some things by myself and get bored in my heart."
"Yi Ziming wants fairness, he doesn't want slaves anymore, and he doesn't want the world to suffer from selling children anymore. He wants equality for all. This is commendable, but it's just a dream. Du Feng wants fame. He can be cruel to himself for his own fame. He never gives up no matter how much he doesn't like. It's a pity that he was born in this world. If he was born in the late Ming Dynasty, he would not know. I only hope that the Han flag will fly high, and the Japanese country will be enfeoffed to seek the wisdom of Zhou Gong's enfeoffment and assimilation, and go to Southeast Asia to seek the benefits of the Han people's monopoly on trade."
"I know that adults have always I don't like landlords, and I hate those who only take the land and live off the land. But what does it matter?"
"In the Celestial Empire, tenant farmers suffer a lot. If we can change, we can change. If we can't, why do we have to control it? It's too difficult to do things in the court. Why do you insist on doing things in the court? Why not leave seeds overseas? Westerners can colonize and spread seeds all over the world, so why can't we? We can just take the land of Japan, squeeze its bones and marrow, and live off the profits. As long as we can invest the money in trade and industry, what does it matter?"
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