New Shun 1730
Chapter 293 The Third Possibility
Liu Yu also took the Duke of Qi's warning to heart, thinking that it was better to do so, so as to avoid trouble in the future.
"The Duke is right, I have written it down. There is no order without rules. Since Your Majesty has set up a special department to deal with these Western barbarians, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs should be in charge of the negotiations with this group of Western barbarians. Didn't Confucius also say that you should follow your heart and not go beyond the rules?"
The Duke of Qi smiled. When he left, Liu Yu was still too sharp and had too many edges and corners.
At that time, he was still young, so it was nothing. Just now, when Liu Yu was asked to pay attention to some rules, I thought Liu Yu would mutter something like "too many constraints, it's too difficult to get things done" like before, but I didn't expect that it was not the case. Instead, he agreed honestly.
"I know you have always regarded Westerners as your enemies. I think your Majesty is the same. Even though the founding of this dynasty was so difficult, there is one thing we have to 'thank' the Eastern Tartars of the past. The court will pay attention to Western affairs."
A thank you sounds like a sarcastic remark, but it is actually a true statement.
The events of the Jiashen year have made many people, from the temple to the faraway rivers and lakes, have a strong sense of crisis about external threats.
It is a bit like the founding of the Han Dynasty, when it was bullied by the Huns, and the siege of Baideng helped Wen and Jing to cultivate themselves. As for the time of Emperor Wu, it was crazy to expand the border, connect the Western Regions, and open up the southwest.
Dashun also has a bit of this meaning, and the difference is not small. When the Later Jin Dynasty started its army, it was very inconspicuous, but it almost sank the world. This is also the reason why Li Gan could listen to Liu Yu's "disaster in the East China Sea": the Dutch seem insignificant, who knows if they will not be another Later Jin in the future?
Who dares to guarantee that those small countries that seem to have no threats at this time will become the things of the late Ming Dynasty in the future?
Taking history as a mirror, we finally learned some truths at this time.
Duke Qi knew that Liu Yu wanted to accomplish something, so he said these words to comfort Liu Yu and told him that the court had set up a Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Although the power and responsibility were unclear at this time, the history of the late Ming Dynasty was a mirror, and the vigilance against Westerners was still high enough.
"Shou Chang, Westerners are also human beings. Some truths can be used here and there. It's just that before, except for you, no one else had a deep understanding of Westerners. Those missionaries have their own thoughts. They are not of our race, so their hearts must be different."
"I heard that at the beginning of the military reform, His Majesty asked you about the new military formations and tactics. You said that you have compiled all your life's learning into a book without any reservations."
"You are very smart in this matter. You should be just as smart in communicating and negotiating with Westerners. His Majesty needs a talent that is better than others, not a genius who must be him. Do you understand the difference?"
Thinking that his family will be more closely tied to Liu Yu in the future, although some things have not been said clearly, when he spoke, he naturally added some elders' tone.
Liu Yu understood the difference between being better than others and being indispensable.
Duke Qi also made his words very clear. He hurriedly said, "Don't worry, Duke. I understand the difference. The more people who understand and know, the more confident your majesty will be in using me."
"It just so happens that Duke is in charge of translation. It just so happens that I need to translate the brief history and culture of these Western countries to serve as a rule for future translations. Write about the affairs of Western countries in more detail."
"I am just an average person. It's nothing more than being close to the water and getting the moon first. I know some Western affairs earlier than others. The Celestial Empire is a land of outstanding people, and the art of diplomacy has been debated since the time of the Hundred Schools. As long as more people know about the affairs of Western countries, how they are good and bad, I believe the Ministry of Foreign Affairs will not lack talents. . ”
When the Duke of Qi saw him coming up, he smiled and said, "That's right. Let's not talk about you, let's talk about me. I can hold such a high position, not because of my outstanding talents, but because of the merits of my ancestors. The top three in the imperial examination and the champion of the Wude Palace all fought their way out of thousands of troops. We who rely on the merits of our ancestors can never compare. ”
"You are a smart person. What you can think of, others can think of. They can't think of it, not because you are smarter than them, but because you know Western affairs earlier than them; I have been able to handle some affairs since I became an adult, not because I am smart, but because I have been exposed to it since I was a child. ”
Liu Yu said yes, but in his heart he said that although this makes a lot of sense, it is not entirely true when it comes to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
This is not because of intelligence, but the difference in thinking.
Different perspectives lead to different ways of solving problems. Knowing the history and culture of Western countries is just the beginning. Knowing what primitive accumulation and colonial trade are, and knowing how to stand from the perspective of China, which is different from the Celestial Empire, can make some decisions.
But he couldn't say this, and he also understood that his background determined that the more he shared, the more the emperor would trust him.
For many things, as long as he shared everything without keeping anything to himself, the emperor would worry that he would use him more.
Duke Qi didn't need to say this, Tian Zhenyi had said it before he went to Weihai to "train troops at Xiaozhan".
Training troops is fine, but it must be replicable, so that others can train them in the same way. Otherwise, the Western Regions will definitely be better. The more capable the Qingzhou Army is, the more likely Liu Yu will be granted a marquisate and stay in the capital, and there will be no possibility of doing big things.
At that time, Liu Yu deeply believed it, and he didn't expect that the father and daughter were in the same tune.
Although the matter of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not comparable to training troops, the emperor is determined to do this. He hopes that diplomacy with Western countries will continue, but he doesn't want Liu Yu to be the only one in the court who can deal with Westerners.
The establishment of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs meant that Dashun bypassed the scope of "the world" and began to try to deal with the outside world.
We are not afraid of bureaucracy, but we are afraid that there will not even be a chance for bureaucracy. Anyway, it’s a messy world now, and no one is more efficient than anyone else.
Furthermore, Liu Yu also felt that continuing as before was really not an option. With more and more foreign exchanges, if he could do it all by himself, he would really become "Foreign Minister and Minister of the Navy." Instead of waiting for the emperor to have a grudge, it is better to let go now.
"My lord, I just have something to put into your hands. From Batavia in Southeast Asia, a strong man came to tell us about the oppression of the Chinese in Batavia. This man is also a person and has the intention to do great things. But after all, this matter needs to be considered in the long term, and the people of Israel and the Chinese people in Bacheng have to rely on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to resolve it.”
"As the saying goes, those who are good at fighting have no great achievements, and those who are good at planning have no great reputation. It is best to suppress this matter before the Dutch take action. Don't wait for the Dutch to imitate the Spaniards and carry out massacres in Luzon. Send a letter of condemnation.”
He discussed the matter of Lian Huai Guan with Qi Guogong, and also briefly talked about the situation in Batavia.
Duke Guo of Qi was probably one of the few people in the court who knew that he would take action against Nanyang in the future. He was also someone who had been immersed in the most filthy place in the world, the court, for decades. He knew what Liu Yu meant when he heard it.
After listening, Qi Guogong couldn't help but laugh.
"You have found a lot of work for my Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Otherwise, this matter will either fall under the control of the Fujian Jiedushi or the Li government. Now that you have grabbed it, I can also use my skills. ”
"But this matter is also a hot one. If I don't take over, and the Dutch really start to massacre, the Li government will probably say that the overall situation is the most important thing. The people who go to sea are thousands of miles apart and commit crimes. The Dutch can't blame them for their treatment. ”
"But if I, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, take over, if I really fail to control the situation and the Dutch start massacres, I will be accused of ignoring the Chinese people overseas. But I will control the situation and even advocate war. , I am afraid that some people will say that spending millions of money and food on behalf of the overseas survivors is not worth it, and it would be better to use it for river construction and relief. "
"You want to take grain from the fire again, and I can only restrain my hands. After all, you only considered one possibility."
"But, Shou Chang, have you ever thought about another possibility? Let me ask you, if the Dutch send back all the Chinese overseas citizens in Java, will the Chinese accept them?"
This question immediately stopped Liu Yu.
He thought according to historical inertia and felt that there were only two possibilities: massacre and driving to Ambon Banda Ceylon.
But when Qi Guogong reminded him, he suddenly woke up.
I think yes, the situation has changed. As Dashun begins to get involved in official negotiations with them, if the Dutch really feel that those who grow sugar cane are a burden, they may even send them back to Fujian.
If the Dutch did this, what would they do?
Taking a breath of cold air and thinking about it, Qi Guogong smiled and said: "Of course we can't take it. Fujian has many mountains and little land, so it is difficult to feed too many people, so we went to sea. If they all come back, there will be no land and no livelihood. , there must be chaos.”
"Besides, if Nanyang is managed in the future, people who are not of my race will have different minds, and immigrants will be necessary."
"There are overseas people in Java, and the Dutch are oppressing them. If we go there, we will liberate the people, and the king will support them. If not, if we capture Java and force immigrants from Fujian, it will become a tyrannical government and separate flesh and blood." ”
"In the long run, if the Dutch want to send them back, we must not accept them."
Hearing the attitude of the Duke of Qi, Liu Yu was slightly reassured and nodded: "It's absolutely true! It's absolutely true! If those people don't come back, if we go, we will endanger the people. After they come back, let alone cause chaos, if they move there in the future, that's another matter." There is an explanation. Bad places like Batavia are like going to Yili and Liaodong in the Western Regions. If people are forced to relocate, there will be all kinds of complaints. I don’t know how many families will be separated from their wives. How about places like that? "
Duke Guo of Qi smiled and said: "So I said, you have created a hot problem for me. But this matter can be solved easily. You need to give me a guarantee. How long will it take for Weihai's navy to be 70% sure of the whole situation?" The Dutch who beat Nanyang?”
This time, Qi Guogong neither asked why nor why. He used a completely trusting attitude and only hoped that Liu Yu would give a specific time.
Liu Yu thought for a moment and stretched out three fingers.
"Three years."
"Three years? That's easy to say."
When he heard that three years had passed, Duke Qi was relieved.
"I dare not say more, but I can still get through it in three years. When you were negotiating with the Rakshasa people, you were fighting in Heilongjiang, and I was talking nonsense in the Selenge River, and I was also talking to the Rakshasa people for a year. So this is It’s okay.”
"Now let's take a look. The Dutch have three possibilities."
"One, massacre."
"Second, move it to Ambon and Ceylon."
"Third, send them back to Fujian."
"So, we must ensure that the first possibility will not happen. The third possibility must be negotiated through diplomacy, and we should try our best to strive for the second possibility. Is this what you mean?"
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