New Shun 1730
Chapter 232 Industrial or Financial Real Estate
Thinking of this and looking at the merchant ships of the Dutch East India Company anchored in the port, Liu Yu's smile gradually became strange.
Tian Ping followed Liu Yu's gaze and sighed.
He participated in the trade with Japan, so he naturally knew that the Dutch also allowed trade in Japan, which was closed to the country. Every year, Dutch ships loaded a large amount of raw silk in Songjiang.
Some of these raw silk will be sold to Japan.
Thinking of this, Tian Ping felt a burst of pain.
If the Dutch are squeezed out and Japanese trade is occupied by our own people, how big a benefit will this have? How many bonuses will there be in a year?
If the Dutch were shipping Western goods to Japan, it would be better if he could not control them in Songjiang.
However, most of them were Jiangsu goods such as raw silk. In his eyes, the raw silk was nothing but a boatload of raw silk. It was clearly the hand that took the money from him and from the pockets of all the shareholders who participated in the Ocean Trading Company.
Tian Ping waved his hand and asked the people around him to disperse, and asked in a low voice: "Brother Shouchang, are you ready to touch the Dutch?"
Liu Yu tilted his head, and Tian Ping chuckled and said: "That's just my guess. In fact, I am here and have invested in shares again, and I really hate the Dutch. I just think about the situation in Japan. Even if I don't give them goods, the Japanese Nor will those shares be given to us."
"If we can hold the Dutch's neck in check, the Japanese can send us a few more trade letters. Let's see what our brothers are capable of."
Liu Yu believed this very much.
In order to do this kind of thing in an official-based country under centralized power, there is no need to win any business competition, or even a formal and clear policy.
With Tian Ping's connections and connections, it would be easy to get the Dutch in Matsue. Not to mention long-term control, at least within a year the Dutch East India Company could not operate properly due to a broken capital chain.
Dashun's long-standing switching policy has made the Dutch East India Company's capital chain too deeply tied to Dashun.
Whether it was Japanese merchants exchanging raw silk for gold, silver and copper, or transporting tea and silk to Europe, the Dutch's interests in India and Persia were declining day by day.
The deeper the binding, the more miserable it will be if you try to do it. And it is likely to be a chain reaction of tragedy. If Songjiang's raw silk cloth and cotton cloth are touched, it will cause big problems in the capital chain.
But I definitely can’t talk about this at this time.
"As you said, it is useless to disturb the Dutch. In addition to trade with Japan, there are also some goods shipped by the Dutch to Europe."
Tian Ping laughed loudly and said: "Is that none of my business? I don't have a silk reeling or weaving workshop. I only care about Japan's trade."
"That's true, hahahaha."
Liu Yu also laughed, and then said: "To be honest, brother, I really have something to ask you to do."
"Tell me, don't ask for anything."
"Hmm... Can you talk to the customs in Fujian and Guangdong? Just do me a favor and get me a list of the Dutch merchant ships in recent years. Including how many ships came, how much goods were purchased, How many goods are sold? Be serious and don’t fool with the above.”
When talking about the first half, Tian Ping felt that it was too simple, and it was not really difficult. But after hearing that Liu Yu was telling the truth, his expression gradually became serious.
"Okay, but it may take a while before I can give it to you. Anyway, I'll do it as soon as possible. It's no problem to talk to me. It's easy to talk to Fujian, Guangdong... There are also some goods that may go to Macau. I'll ask someone to ask you. Ask."
"This matter..."
Just when he was about to tell this matter not to be spread outside, Tian Ping smiled and said: "Don't worry, I know how to keep my mouth shut. I don't ask you what you want to do, but since you are asking for help from your brothers, this matter can be easily solved. I also know that you are now My identity is different. If you ask, it will be more convenient. I will tell you that the customs here have their own way."
Liu Yu nodded, knowing that Tian Ping was also aware of the importance now. Since I promised, I will definitely do it, otherwise I will tell you the difficulties now.
"Brother Shouchang, you're not just here to give me money this time, are you?"
Tian Ping was actually very confused in his heart. He must be happy that Liu Yu came to Songjiang. He knew that it was definitely not as simple as sending money, but that he must be doing something big.
Although I must not forget myself if there is a way to get rich, I still feel itchy in my heart and want to know it sooner.
Liu Yu didn't hide anything that shouldn't be hidden from Tian Ping.
"To tell you the truth, of course it's not as simple as sending money. Anyway, just prepare the money."
"Money? How much profit?"
After his last experience in trading with Japan, Tian Ping's ears pricked up when he heard the word "money".
If it was a big profit, he could sell part of the trading company's shares to raise money.
When it was first issued, one share cost one hundred taels of silver. Now it has risen to one hundred and eighty taels, and it is still priceless but not marketable.
All the shareholders are holding on tightly and will not let go at all. Everyone knows that this is a long-term way to make money while lying down. Although the annual dividend profit is not as good as loan sharking, it is not bad.
Such high profits are naturally due to Japan's isolation, which allowed Liu Yu to obtain substantial monopoly power through his operations in Japan without having a monopoly power.
The current headquarters of the trading company is surrounded by teahouses. Many people squat there every day to watch the news and exchange information on goods. It has gradually become Songjiang's maritime trade center.
There are even prototypes of early futures on Liaodong soybeans, and the trading volume is increasing every year.
Tian Ping thought that if the profits were huge, he could sell some of his shares and participate in new shares. It would be easy to sell.
Although the stock price has been rising in recent years, it has also stabilized.
On the one hand, trade with Japan is still restricted by trade letters. Even if rice can be smuggled, the increase has reached its limit. Japan has noticed the phenomenon of large-scale outflow of gold and silver again, and may tighten its policies within a few years.
On the other hand, the trade situation with Southeast Asia has just opened up. Although the equity is strong, the merchants in Fujian and Guangdong have also begun to form a group to protect their existing interests.
At least for now, the profit growth of the trading company has reached a bottleneck, unless there is a big change.
When Tian Ping asked about the profit return, Liu Yu was not sure.
The military factory is okay. He wants to use this to dilute the dividends to the French East India Company and clarify the shares to avoid disputes in the future.
For the time being, there are orders for the Dashun military reform, and the profit is still considerable.
However, it is difficult to say about other new industries, such as cigarettes, matches, glass, soap, etc.
Maybe there will be profit, or maybe there will be loss.
The situation in Weihai is special. The navy and officers have monthly salaries, and the attitude of people who go to sea to earn a day's salary, coupled with some habits formed by military rationing, has made cigarettes and soap have a mature consumer market.
But in Jiangnan, it is really hard to say whether it will work.
The land rent in Dashun is too high, and the interest rate of usury is too high, so the highest rate of return is usury, and the most valuable is land.
It is really difficult to enrich capital in industry and commerce. It is really hard to say whether there is a high rate of return as high as the monopoly trade with Japan.
If the profit is not enough, people would rather invest the money in buying land and lending.
The reason why the profits from trade with Japan were distributed to everyone before, in addition to wanting to involve more people in the war against Japan, is really a thousand gold market bones.
I just don't know how much trust this thousand gold market bones can be worth.
Europe has been ruled by the church for hundreds of years. The Bible prohibits usury. Although it is still done in private, Jews who openly lend money at high interest rates are often framed.
The current laws in the UK are fixed, and the annual interest rate shall not exceed 8%. The annual interest rate of British government bonds is only about 6%.
The budding of capitalism is not only a change in production relations, but also a whole set of ways of thinking. British industrialists and businessmen have begun to publish books to advocate that interest rates should be as low as possible.
Basically, the annual interest rate in the Netherlands and the UK is generally around 10%, which has led to a lot of money being invested in industry and commerce.
A major factor in the enclosure movement is that the traditional land rent in the UK is too low. If the UK also has the 50% land rent of Dashun, which can be regarded as a benevolent policy, the motivation for enclosure may not be so great.
However, in Dashun, the annual interest rate of 36% is the upper limit stipulated by law. The previous Ming Dynasty law stipulates that interest cannot exceed the principal. Dashun inherited it, but the grassroots control is scumbag and it is simply unable to control it.
Nowadays, even in economically developed regions or between merchants, the interest rate is 20 to 30 percent.
The land rent of nearly 50 percent and the interest rate of nearly 30 percent for loans make it extremely difficult for Dashun to develop new industries and commerce.
The internal market is basically saturated. Among the 20 million people, only so many have the ability to consume. The rest are self-sufficient or even have no money to consume. The external market is also temporarily saturated. External growth depends on Europe's relaxation of mercantilist policies, but Dashun does not have the ability to switch gunboats.
Land with high rent can be bought and sold, and a loan interest rate of 30 percent is considered low. In such an environment, it is conceivable how much money can flow into industry and commerce.
If the return rate is lower than 30 percent, merchants would rather lend money or buy land.
The Ministry of Revenue of Dashun is not a central bank, and the court's control over the grassroots is so strong that even the Qingmiao Law cannot be promoted. Although the Qingmiao Law is a fantasy, it is regarded as "good governance" by some people because the maximum interest rate is 30 percent, so it is conceivable what the normal interest rate is.
The government's income and expenditure situation and the lack of assistance to the private sector have made private lending assume the function of "assistance" for the private sector. Even if the maximum interest rate is set, it is just a formality. It is impossible to ban it, and there is no economic basis for banning it.
Britain can issue national debts and people can subscribe to them, not only because of the existence of the Bank of England, but also because of the general interest rate among the private sector.
If Dashun learns from England, issues national debts and pays 6% interest. Then in the eyes of businessmen, it is no different from robbing money. I have money to lend at high interest rates of 90% and 13% return, and I can buy land that will maintain its value forever. Why should I earn the pitiful 6% interest of the court?
If an annual interest rate of 30% is given, the national debt can definitely be raised. The problem is that if you can pay back the annual interest of 30% without going bankrupt, do you still need to borrow national debts?
When thinking of these annoying problems, Liu Yu felt that it seemed that the only way to solve them was to start all over again.
But thinking about the reality at this time, he could only find ways to be a repairman and find a way out of the dead end.
When Liu Yu heard Tian Ping asking how much profit he would make, he didn't say much or little, but smiled mysteriously and said, "I can't say for sure. I'll ask them what they think when we have dinner tonight. I'm in Weihai, which is very different from here. Whether I can make money depends on what they say."
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