New Shun 1730

Here, Li Han asked whether, after building the Yellow River, building roads and infrastructure could be regarded as Dashun’s top priority.

From the perspective of the battle between the two private ownership groups in Dashun, yes.

Only when the infrastructure is completed and the roads repaired can the pain of the small farmers in the subsequent murders be less intense.

Or immigrate.

Or build roads.

Or go to Fuso to work as a contracted laborer.

In short, road infrastructure construction, for Dashun at this time, is more about giving a possible way out to people under the first type of private ownership who are bound to be violated.

As for touching on production relations and ownership...this is not something that can be accomplished by changes in the feudal dynasty, nor is it an issue that can be considered under private ownership.

Many times, you have to figure out what exactly you are supporting.

Do you support private ownership?

So which kind of private ownership do you support?

Of these two kinds of private property, the latter will definitely survive on the corpse of the former.

Is it private ownership itself that you support?

Or do you support private ownership under the so-called "eternal justice" and "divine gift"?

In other words, under the blessing of the so-called "eternal justice" or "benevolence and righteousness", the first kind of private ownership is the utopia of the petty bourgeoisie?

If you support private ownership itself, then you "deserve it" for your bankruptcy and land loss, as long as the other party allows you to use your right to dispose of your property and hand it over to the other party on the basis of private ownership.

The essence of private ownership is the right to dispose, not to own it.

It is to make it easier for most people to "sell", rather than to make it easier for most people to "own".

The land issue in European feudal society affected "liquidation". The messy property rights, subordinate rights, feudal privileges, etc. made selling very troublesome.

Supporting private property under the blessing of eternal justice is the utopia of the petty bourgeoisie, trying to use morality or justice to stop the second type of private property from murdering the first type of private property. This is no different from the ideal society of Confucianism or the eternal justice of the French Jacobins.

Under private ownership of small land, you, as a small farmer, have the right to dispose of small land. Then, as a big businessman, I have a hundred ways to "legally" kill you and let you "justly" use your disposal power and hand over your land to me.

Cheating, lending, intimidation, price manipulation, etc., forcing you to hand over your land deed is a matter of "eternal justice" and a matter of "benevolence, righteousness, morality, and morality."

It does not involve private property itself, nor does it violate the sanctity of private property.

On the contrary, it is precisely because of the sanctity of private ownership that we need to use our brains to cheat, lend, control prices, monopolize the market, etc. Otherwise... how did the Middle Ages treat Jewish creditors? If a noble owes money to a merchant creditor, can the merchant turn the noble's fief into his own to pay off the debt? Slaves are slaves from birth. Do they need to pay debts and sell their sons and daughters into slavery?

"Da Shun Law", in the land system, is obviously private ownership. It is much clearer and clearer than the land ownership system in France at this time.

But therein lies the problem.

Capitalism is the second type of private ownership.

Private ownership is not the same as capitalism.

Capitalism is private ownership based on the exploitation of other people's labor.

And that kind of producer takes his own labor as his own private ownership, which is not capitalism.

Dashun has just completed the "private ownership" step ahead of schedule.

It is stuck on the legal murder of the former by the second kind of private ownership, and it is counter-murdered every time.

Judging from France's historical experience, France was obviously a first-mover country in history. Is it possible to conclude that it would be very difficult to first establish private ownership and then complete the legal murder of the first by the second private ownership?

Otherwise, it is easy to fall into widespread poverty; it is also easy to establish a country with usury; and small farmers always have illusions about emperors and saints; incidentally, there may also be a lot of "eternal justice", "benevolence and morality", "gentlemen" A bullshit utopian society based on "all labor and all exchanges."

It is not easy to solve these problems systematically.

It requires bloodshed, sacrifice, awakening, restoration, anti-restoration, uprising, and resistance, wave after wave, and finally eliminate the superstition of some old things in the past in the struggle and find its own way.

Therefore, these things are not something Li Han can solve at all.

Turning it to Li Huan, he now asked Liu Yu if he believed that road infrastructure construction could be done at any cost and by any means, making this a top priority for Dashun in the next twenty or thirty years.

Liu Yu naturally supported it.

But he must remind Li Han that it must be consistent with Dashun's actual situation and how this matter should be guided.

And Li Han must understand that the amount of money required for forced redemption in Shandong, as well as forced savings and forced industrial investment after the forced redemption, is simply not enough.

If Li Han wants to do something, he must learn some social analysis and class analysis, and understand whose skin he should wear and who he should benefit from.

Although, it sounds like Li Han's words are clear and logical, and he seems to have understood some things in the new era.

But, a theory is a theory.

Practice is practice.

The difference is quite big.

Thinking of this, Liu Yu did not immediately answer Li Huan's question directly, but asked instead: "Your Highness must be aware of the two bubbles in the West thirty or forty years ago, right?"

Not to mention that Li Han really fought in the Atlantic Ocean, even if he had not been there, Liu Yu often talked about it. Of course, many people in Dashun knew about it.

Li Han was not surprised that Liu Yu asked this. After all, he himself thought that he could learn from Liu Yu's bubble financing methods in Fuso.

So he nodded, indicating that of course he knew. Then he acted like he was all ears.

Liu Yu smiled and said: "Has your Highness ever thought about why people at that time were so easy to believe? Or, conversely, why were the two bubbles at that time related to 'exclusive colonization'? And the people who deceived all this , and didn’t exert force in other directions?”

This question is not difficult.

Without thinking, Li Han blurted out: "That's because the previous companies that specialized in colonization and monopolized patents had really high returns. This can be regarded as an 'example' for Indian companies in various countries. Because those similar companies before The company has really made money, so everyone has great confidence in similar things. Likewise, those who are involved in bubbles will naturally use this to tell stories.”

After blurting out the words, Li Han suddenly realized: "What do you mean by the prince of the country, a thousand pieces of gold? No matter what, we must let people really see the benefits of building road infrastructure before they can invest money in it. So that within Jiuzhou, the squires of all provinces Merchants, are you also thinking about building a road for your own province? "

He thought that was it.

However, Liu Yu shook his head.

"What His Highness said is just looking at the surface, not the essence. Then I will change the angle and ask Your Highness."

"Why can I raise enough money to relocate people to Fusang before repairing the Yellow River?"

This question is certainly not difficult.

"My previous voyages to Nanyang, the cultivation of cotton fields in Huaibei, and even the expedition to India, trade with Japan, etc., have really benefited the merchants. Moreover, every time they are not fake, the money invested can really be seen in return."

Liu Yu nodded and said: "So, this matter is the same as the two bubbles in Europa thirty or forty years ago."

"It's just that in Europa, what people saw before was where money was made, which were companies specializing in colonial monopoly trade. So we looked for its shape. This shape is a company specializing in monopoly trade."

"As for this dynasty, this situation is the credibility of the court. The court said that money can be made here, and it has been verified many times, so capital really believes it."

"Therefore, the Fusang matter, the Huaibei cotton field matter, and the trade matter with Japan seem to be completely different on the surface. But in fact, they are all 'court credibility' behind them."

"Because of this, when I was building the Yellow River, I was able to raise money to cultivate and cultivate fusang for immigrants. As for gold and silver, if the court said it was available, they would believe it. This is credibility."

"This reputation itself is actually valuable. At least, it can be used for the time being. After all, for the last time, Fuso really has gold and silver. Not only is the reputation still there, but it has also become stronger."

"Your Highness should make good use of this reputation."

"I said there was gold in Fusang, and because of my previous credibility, everyone believed me. So I raised money, and in five years, I moved people to colonize and transfer the population, which solved the most difficult initial problem of early immigrants in Fusang. Five years later, I gave They are gold."

"Then, Your Highness, think about it, is there any gold north of the Songliao watershed?"

"They can endure Fuso's gold for five years. Can't they endure the Songliao watershed's gold?"

Li Han was stunned and asked: "Does the Duke mean...to imitate the bubble story? However, the Northeast is not as good as Fusang. I'm afraid this story is not easy to tell. And, as the Duke said, this kind of reputation can only be used once. .seem……"

Liu Yu laughed and said: "Your Highness, gold is gold, silver is silver, silver is gold, and gold is silver. So, is copper gold? Is coal gold? If you don't regard gold as gold, but as money, A lot of things were figured out.”

"Since His Highness has thought of it, destroy the sugar industry in India, support Nanyang Sugar, and expand the demand for soybeans in Nanyang, Japan, Sulu and other places."

"Then, why doesn't Your Highness think more about it?"

“Fuso immigrants’ money was not obtained in the name of Fuso immigrants, but in the name of gold digging.”

"Then, Your Highness may wish to think about it. If the income of this railway is high in the future, will it be a good thing or a bad thing? If it is low, how will His Highness pay the promised rate of return? If it is high, the significance of this railway transportation will be greatly reduced."

"Therefore, is there a way to make the railway's rate of return very low, or even just the interest on the national debt at maturity, similar to the national debt, which does not involve equity, only interest, and the principal will be repaid in twenty years. But at the same time, it will make capital enthusiastic What about investing?”

Li Han understood immediately.

"What the Duke is saying...is the land north of Songliao bound to this railway national bond? How many hectares of land around the railway will be divided? Whoever has railway bonds in the future will have priority in buying land?"

"In this way, how much the bonds will rise does not involve the railway itself. At that time, the court will only need to repay the principal and interest of the national debt, and the railway will be in the hands of the court. Even if the railway bonds are used to offset the price... In this way, the court may not spend much money. With the money, we can take back the ownership of the railway.”

"But, this is like eating and drinking. If the road is built...the land there will be valuable."

Liu Yu thought to himself, there is no telling how long Dashun will live.

Yin eats maoliang, and what we want is that Yin eats maoliang and lays down a series of legacies such as infrastructure and heavy industry as soon as possible.

As Nasan said, the land is easy to talk about and can be divided; large industries cannot be demolished, so they will definitely be able to stay in the end.

So, Liu Yu borrowed Li Li's question and asked back: "Your Highness, you just asked, saying that in the next 20 to 30 years, besides the Yellow River, is this road construction the top priority?"

"If it is the top priority, should it be done at all costs?"

"Your Highness asked this, have you forgotten it as soon as you turned around? Is eating up the grain of the next year in the current year a price?"

"Now the court still has a lot of frontier land, all of which are state-owned land. Cash it in as soon as possible to complete heavy industry and infrastructure."

"Don't be indecisive."

"You want to build infrastructure and heavy industry, lay the foundation for the development of industry and commerce, and bet the future on the development of industry and commerce."

"You are also thinking about holding a large amount of frontier land in your hands, so that you can relocate small farmers in the future, still let small farmers be the main ones, follow the equal field system, and the story of good families in the frontier."

"Or you feel sorry for the future and think that you can sell it at a better price in the future."

"You can't be indecisive. In the final analysis, Your Highness still doesn't believe that industry and commerce are the ultimate way out."