New Shun 1730
Chapter 1438 Disagreement (IV)
All communication with the emperor must be based on the current situation, Dashun's capabilities, the emperor's purpose, etc.
There are many reasons.
But if you say that you serve the people, it's not even playing the lute to a cow.
So Liu Yu talked about some cannibalism.
"Your Majesty, I would like to talk about the migration of people from Fusang."
"The origin of the migration of people from Fusang is that industry and commerce need people there, and the money a person can earn for the employer is higher than the ship's fare for crossing the ocean. Therefore, immigration can be accomplished."
"Initially, it was the mining of gold and silver."
"Later, it gradually became logging, shipbuilding, and salt drying."
"And then to textiles, iron smelting, etc."
"If not, it would be difficult to complete with the power of the court."
"So far, I think this matter is beneficial to the country and the means are feasible."
The emperor nodded and admitted this.
"Your Majesty, what you said is very true. The relocation of people from Fusang can be said to kill two birds with one stone."
"First, mining gold and silver will enrich the national treasury, and it will also provide a basis for currency reform."
"Second, after the Yellow River is occupied, hundreds of thousands of people will not be left jobless and become refugees."
"It is indeed as you said, it is truly beneficial to the country and the people."
Liu Yu said again: "Your Majesty, the root of it is that the money a person can earn for the employer is higher than the ship fare for crossing the ocean and the wages paid. Therefore, the relocation of people can be achieved."
In fact, if this statement is used in later generations, two or four words can express its meaning.
Exploitation.
Surplus value.
However, Liu Yu and the emperor talked very superficially and avoided these two words. Of course, even if they were said, the emperor would not understand.
Even if we consider exploitation and surplus value, the real problem facing Dashun is not so simple.
Old Ma said: [How is surplus value generated? It is not generated from circulation, but it is realized in circulation. ]
Surplus value depends on production.
But to realize it, it needs circulation, and it must be realized in circulation.
This is the true meaning of Dashun's immigration to North America: creating circulation, so that surplus value can be realized, so that capital has to migrate labor.
Circulation has to consider transportation, cost, market and other issues.
Otherwise, it cannot circulate.
And without circulation, surplus value cannot be realized.
This kind of circulation, which Liu Yu guided, is in line with what Lao Ma said.
Fusang immigration, crossing the ocean, is extremely costly.
In the early stage, only gold and silver can be circulated, so Fusang migration must start with gold and silver mines.
After the gold and silver mines started, the population increased, which made food, wood, cotton cloth, salt, etc. circulated.
They can circulate, which has led to the realization of more surplus value.
The realization of more surplus value has led to the transfer of labor to the east.
This is what Liu Yu wanted to say to the emperor:
That is, labor, transfer to the east.
Fusang immigration is just a prelude and general preview of the "labor transfer to the east" in the larger scope of Dashun.
The reason why it is called a general rehearsal is that many industries of Fusang immigrants are also oriented towards the "external market".
Whether it is the wine and wool of Xinyizhou; or the cotton and cotton cloth in Jinshan area.
It is mainly for the foreign market.
The wine of Xinyizhou is sold to the French and indigenous people.
The cotton cloth in Jinshan area is sold to the Spanish colonies in Central and South America.
Therefore, this can almost be regarded as the general rehearsal of the "labor force transfer to the east" in Dashun.
That is, Dashun must rely on overseas markets, the "spoils" of World War I, and the vast world trade from Northern Europe to Japan to complete the start of industrialization and the continued development of industry and commerce.
Indeed, at this time, considering the "per capita" grain, the rice in Nanyang cannot be compared with the per capita in Henan, because of transportation reasons, this per capita is meaningless.
However, since the "per capita" grain in coastal areas is meaningful, it can be transported by sea.
So, if the grain cannot go to people, and people cannot go to the grain?
Grain does not have legs.
But people have legs.
Of course, it is definitely more troublesome to operate in reality.
Moreover, it will also leave very serious sequelae.
However, at least, this idea can solve the problem of "industry and commerce accommodating enough population" in a self-consistent way.
This problem is not a problem for Liu Yu or for people in later generations.
But it is a problem for Dashun now.
Even this problem is still in the stage of "theoretical research", and even the stage of "technical verification" has not been reached - it is necessary to prove theoretically that there is such a possibility that industry and commerce can accommodate so many people.
If even theoretical calculations cannot be self-consistent, then this "future" will not be believed at all at this time.
Everyone will wonder, how is it possible? How can industry and commerce accommodate so many people?
Including those thoughtful Confucian scholars, when they were considering the issue of equal distribution of land, they were directly stuck on this issue, making their idea of equal distribution of land a fantasy.
For example, Li Zhen did not solve this problem, but discovered this problem again, but did not dare to believe that industry and commerce could accommodate so many people.
So in the end, his equal land distribution idea could only be based on "emptiness" - in response to the increase in population, he believed that industry and commerce could not accommodate so many people, so he imagined a completely empty fantasy that [the upper-class land is divided into 50 mu, the lower-class land is divided into 150 mu, and after working, the lower-class land can be upgraded to the upper-class land, so one part can be divided into three parts].
By the time of Dashun, with the development of the times and the reforms of Liu Yu, his descendants continued and developed this theory - comprehensive reaction, the restoration of the patriarchal system of the whole people, the eldest son inherits the land, and the second son goes overseas to divide the land.
This is not only a temporary solution, but also a line dispute that does not believe that industry and commerce can accommodate so many people.
It is called a line dispute, not to say that their ideas of keeping pace with the times are not feasible, nor that they may not be used.
Rather, for the practical school, even if it can be used, it is only a means, not the ultimate goal.
Even if we say that the radicals in the practical school want to first equalize the land and then concentrate on immigration, they only use immigration as a means, and the ultimate goal is to alleviate the pain of difficult labor for the "birth of the new era from the mother of the old era."
Rather than saying that we should have a comprehensive reactionary movement, restore the patriarchal system, rituals, inheritance by the eldest son, and redistribution of colonization by the second son, and finally restore the well-field system.
Now, the reason why Liu Yu's theory has supporters is that it can be self-consistent in theoretical calculations.
It transcends the words of the old saints.
If this theory is summarized, there are two key points.
If these two key points cannot be explained, then it cannot be explained in theory.
The first: per capita food.
People do not love food, they just use food. No one has a quirk to collect food for fun; nor can they eat 10,000 or 100,000 kilograms of food in one meal just because they are nobles.
The difference between love and use has been explained very clearly by the great sages of the pre-Qin Dynasty.
Therefore, while ensuring that the total grain output of Dashun remained unchanged, in fact, the labor of many farmers was "ineffective labor" in the macro sense, and did not increase the total grain output of Dashun - this does not conflict with intensive farming. Two-year three-crop farming does require more labor than rough agriculture, but it is not as much as the level of "half a person serving one acre of land on average" in some areas of North China.
How big is one acre of land? Draw a circle, stand at the center of the circle and throw a standard shot put, and a human being can hit it outside the circle.
In this case, it is better to invest more people in industry and commerce.
The basis of all this is the "national wealth" theory, that is, what is the sum of national wealth.
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