"Whether it's Konoha or any other village, any ninja who leaves the village without permission can be considered a traitor."

Minato explained that no matter how nice it sounded to leave Konoha, according to the rules he was still a traitor.

"As the founder of Konoha, Uchiha, if you don't leave now, won't you wait until everyone is dead?"

Instead of feeling comfortable facing this former Hokage, Sasuke felt somewhat aggressive.

"I don't know what happened, so I can't give you a direct conclusion. But no matter how perfect the reasons are for the traitors, they are still enemies of Konoha."

This is the difference between Minato and Naruto as Hokage, as the Hokage, ensuring the safety of the village will always come first, and his personal feelings can only be put aside.

"What can you do in your current state, Yondaime?"

Not to mention that Sasuke's current strength is only his spiritual will, even if he takes action here, it is still questionable how much strength Minato can exert.

"Dad, I will bring Sasuke back to the village! He just can't think straight right now! You have to believe me!"

Seeing his father and Sasuke arguing, Naruto spoke up as well.

"Naruto!"

Sasuke suddenly raised his voice.

"You said your dream was to become Hokage, I've always remembered that!"

Naruto froze, confused as to why Sasuke suddenly brought this up.

"Everyone has his or her own ideals and pursuits. Just like what you said, doing what you say is your ninja way. My current goal is to revive the Uchiha clan and follow Ye Lan to change this deformed world!"

"I respect your ideals and goals, but when can you respect me? Asshole! Stop forcing your ideas on others!"

Sasuke's words were deafening, revealing Naruto's self-righteous character without reservation.

"But, but Sasuke! What you did is wrong. I don't know what's wrong, but I must bring you back to the village!"

Naruto was a little incoherent after what Sasuke said. From childhood to adulthood, any ninja who grew up in Konoha would subconsciously believe that it was wrong to hurt Konoha, no matter what the reason was. So Naruto thought that Sasuke leaving the village was the biggest mistake, and everything else could be discussed.

Minato waved his hand to stop the somewhat excited Naruto. He was very curious why this child who was about the same age as his son would have such an idea.

"This is a distorted world. Why do you have such an idea? And who is Ye Lan?"

"Brother Ye Lan is Sasuke's cousin. I heard that he was the one who took Sasuke away from Konoha!"

Naruto answered immediately. He had complicated feelings towards Ye Lan. He could not hate him even though he was his enemy. His rational appearance was not someone he could convince.

"From the Uchiha clan? That's the other Uchiha survivor you mentioned."

Minato realized that the key to the matter might be Uchiha Ye Lan. He had never heard of this person when he was there. Where did he come from?

"Ye Lan made me see the truth about the fall of the Uchiha, and also made me understand the decay of Konoha and what kind of profession a ninja is. Leaving Konoha was also my own choice, and I am very glad for it."

Sasuke recalled what had happened, opened his eyes and looked at Minato again. The other party's identity as Hokage could just confirm some things.

"Yondaime Hokage, as the Hokage of Konoha, you should understand what ninjas are for. Putting aside the cool and gorgeous ninjutsu, ninjas are just tools to do things for the rich."

"Sasuke! I get really mad when you say that!"

Naruto would not allow Sasuke to "slander" the noble things in his heart.

But Minato remained silent, in a sense Sasuke was right.

"Shut up, Naruto. Didn't you see that your father agreed? Otherwise, where would the village get its funding from? Otherwise, why would the missions be divided into different levels? Originally, ninjas didn't have any ideals. Assassination, sabotage, and espionage all created tragedies. It's just that you people in power have given it some beautiful ideals so that those students who just graduated from the ninja school are willing to carry out missions."

Naruto opened his mouth, but when Sasuke gradually revealed the true meaning of being a ninja, all his rebuttals became pale.

"But before we are ninjas, we are human beings first. We also have things to protect."

Minato would not simply change his position because of some of Sasuke's words, but he was very curious about what Sasuke wanted to do.

"So what was your purpose after leaving Konoha? Or what is your purpose?"

Minato once again took a look at what Sasuke was wearing, now it looked like the two Uchiha might have joined some organization after leaving the village.

"It's time to tell it now."

Sasuke raised his head slightly and met Minato's gaze.

"Break the existing order and redistribute all resources, not just the ninja villages, but all the daimyo of the countries, to achieve true unification and prevent chaos from arising at the root."

"But if you do this, it will also lead to tragedy and war..."

"Would you rather the world remain in chaos, or trade one lifetime of tragedy for a hundred lifetimes of peace?"

The two of them were at loggerheads, neither of them could convince the other, and the two different ideas produced fierce sparks at this moment.

"No, all of it is wrong!"

While the two were arguing, Naruto, who had been silent all the time, suddenly spoke. He was no longer as innocent as before, and there was a hint of thought and sadness in his eyes.

"Sasuke, I won't allow this to happen. As long as I become Hokage, I will prevent all tragedies from happening. I will make this world stable again!"

Sasuke looked at Naruto in some surprise. He found that the other person's eyes had completely changed. Although he still said innocent words, they were completely different from just now.

If Naruto was just talking about it briefly before, now he knows the difficulty of this matter and still made such a decision after recognizing some reality.

These are two completely different meanings. Naruto seemed to have grown up in an instant.

After a moment of surprise, Sasuke smiled with some relief and said lightly.

"Naruto, if you want to achieve that, becoming a Hokage is not enough."

"Then I will surpass all the previous Hokage! I will become a Hokage that Konoha, no, the whole world can recognize!"

Naruto no longer tried to persuade Sasuke to return to the village. He somewhat understood Sasuke's pursuit. Even if he defeated the other party, he could not correct the other party's thinking. He could only start with himself.

"Naruto, I believe in you! You can do it!"

Minato smiled with satisfaction. Having seen his son's growth with his own eyes, he no longer questioned Sasuke and left these matters to Naruto.

"Let me wait and see, Naruto."

Sasuke turned around. The Nine-Tails had been sealed again and there was no need for him to stay here.

Naruto looked at Sasuke's back as he left and stretched out his hand to grab him, but he didn't say a word in the end. He retracted his hand and clenched his fist tightly.

...

In the real world, Sasuke slowly opened his eyes. His vision was severely damaged and his pupils could hardly focus. He could only see a dark area in front of him.

"Wouldn't it be better if you used illusion earlier?"

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