Reborn in 2011, 985 missing from two copies

"Yes, Chairman, Nvidia and Qualcomm are fighting!" Xu Mingyi said with a smile.

A few months ago, Qualcomm's quad-core flagship was released and Nvidia's quad-core processor dropped to $15.

Now that Qualcomm's quad-core processor is officially on the market, Nvidia's quad-core processor has dropped to just $12 again!

But it's normal to think about it. Qualcomm's 28nm quad-core processor is already available, while Nvidia's 40nm can only be reduced again and again.

Of course, Nvidia also intends to start a price war deliberately to disgust Qualcomm.

Qualcomm APQ8064, the world's first 28nm quad-core flagship chip, was originally planned to be sold at a high price, with the processor alone costing US$25 and the baseband costing US$38.

Now, Nvidia has lowered the price of its processor to $12. Even though Qualcomm’s processor is 28 nanometers, it dare not sell it at a high price of $25. The maximum price is $18.

If it is twice as expensive as the Nvidia quad-core, mobile phone manufacturers would rather give up the Qualcomm quad-core and choose the cheaper Nvidia quad-core.

After all, they are all quad-core processors, so what if the process is advanced?

It’s not like 40nm is unusable, and it’s so much cheaper…

Cost-effectiveness is always calculated in a bundle.

But this matter is more friendly to Wang Yi.

Wang Yi and Qualcomm signed the purchase agreement for APQ 8064 half a year ago.

In order to grab the order for quad-core processors, Qualcomm agreed with Wang Yi that the supply price of APQ 8064 to Wang Yi would not be higher than Nvidia's Tegra 3!

Nowadays, Nvidia's Tegra 3 is sold for 12 US dollars. Well, Qualcomm APQ8064 costs other companies 18 US dollars or even 20 US dollars. But according to the contract, Wang Yi can only be paid no more than Tegra 3, which is 12 US dollars!

This is a great bargain!

The latest 28nm flagship processor is only $12, which is really cheap.

There is no way. If Qualcomm dares to charge a high price, Wang Yi can just continue to use NVIDIA's tegra 2 in his Xphone 3.

Although 28nm is one generation ahead of 40nm, it would be completely worthless if it were twice as expensive.

As for the baseband price of Xphone 2, the score is as follows.

There are currently two basebands for APQ 8064, MDM 8215 and MDM 9615.

Both are new 28nm basebands, but their performance is much worse.

MDM 8215 is a 3G baseband and does not support telecommunications, so the price will be more attractive.

But if you use MDM 9615, the price will be high, after all, it supports Telecom 3G and 4G.

The baseband of the previous Xiaomi 2 and Xiaomi 2S standard versions is MDM 8215, which supports China Mobile 2G, China Unicom 2G and 3G, but not China Telecom.

The Telecom version uses MDM 9615. In addition to China Mobile 2G, China Unicom 2G and 3G, it also supports China Telecom 3G, making it a full-network version.

Similarly, iPhone 5 also uses the MDM 9615 baseband and supports full network access.

虽小米2/2S电信版和iPhone 5都用了支持4G的MDM 9615基带，但三款机型都不支持4G。

There is no other reason. The baseband supports 4G, but the transceiver RTR8600 RF of the three mobile phones does not support 4G signal transmission and reception, so they are just 3G mobile phones.

反倒是2013年的iPhone 5s，采用MDM 9615基带+ WTR1605L 4G收发器，才支持4G。

Similarly, Xphone 2 also faces the problem of which baseband and transceiver to use.

If 3G baseband 8215 is used, Wang Yi can ask for more and negotiate the price down to US$11.

This 8064 chip + 8215 baseband costs a total of $23, which is cost-effective, but does not support telecommunications.

If you choose Qualcomm's most powerful baseband MDM 9615, the price will be expensive.

After all, Qualcomm's MDM 9615 baseband supports 4G, so even if Wang Yi wants more, it will still cost $13 or even $15.

Such a processor + 9615 baseband would cost $25 or even $27.

It is for this reason that the standard version of Xiaomi 2 in the previous life used APQ8064+8215 baseband and did not support telecommunications.

而小米2电信版，才是8064 + MDM 9615基带，支持电信2G、3G全网通。

Of course, the Xiaomi 2 Telecom version is also 200 yuan more expensive.

As for 4G?

It is not meaningful.

Domestic 4G licenses were issued at the end of 2013, and implementation only began in 2014.

In 2012, there was no need.

To put it bluntly, although MDM 9615 supports 4G, it was still used as 2012G in 3.

This is true for Xiaomi and also for iPhone 5.

There is no need to force Xingyi mobile phones to use 4G.

At the beginning of next year, Kunpeng 8064, which has better performance than Qualcomm APQ 700, will also be equipped with an external 3G baseband.

若是Xphone 2今年上了高通4G，明年高通处理器、基带都换成自研的鲲鹏700+翼龙3000，反而不支持4G了。

4G becomes 3G, and it gets worse with each upgrade. What will happen?

Of course not!

After the Kunpeng series chips go into mass production, they will completely replace Qualcomm and Nvidia chips.

This is the general policy and there will be no mistakes.

Wang Yi has decided to continue with 2G for Xphone 3, and then move on to 3G for Xphone 4 in September next year.

The Wing Loong 9000 baseband integrated in the Kunpeng 4000 SOC is a 4G baseband.

But judging by the progress, it will not be successfully taped out until March or April next year, and mass production will be possible in the middle of the year, just in time for the Xphone 3 to be released in September next year.

As for the Xphone 2 released in September this year, it can only use 3G for a year, since 3G in China will only be promoted in 2014.

As for MDM 9615 or 8215, it depends on Qualcomm's quotation.

In the evening, Wang Yi called Qualcomm Chairman Jacob.

Jacob's excited voice came from the other end of the phone: "Mr. Wang, good morning, no, good evening, I finally waited for your call."

Qualcomm quad-core processors are now on the market, but Wang Yi has not placed any more orders, except for the 500 million APQ 8064 order six months ago.

On the contrary, orders for Nvidia's Tegra 3 chips continued to increase, which almost made Jacob unable to sit still.

But Jacob cannot take the initiative in this matter.

Once you take the initiative, you appear to be anxious, and then when you negotiate the price, you will lose the initiative.

Wang Yi smiled and said, "It's not because I'm afraid you'll be busy."

"I'm not busy. It's your call, Mr. Wang. I'm never busy." Jacob said politely.

Now Xingyi Technology has become the dominant player in the mobile phone market. Both Xphone 1 and Xphone 1pro are hot-selling products. Both NVIDIA and Qualcomm have to beg Wang Yi for favors.

There’s nothing I can do, he’s a big client, a financial sponsor.

As long as Nvidia exists, Qualcomm will not be able to monopolize the market and will not dare to be as arrogant as in the past.

After some pleasantries, the two got straight to the point: "Regarding the quotation for the new processor and baseband..."

"Don't worry, Mr. Wang, we will follow the previous contract. The 28-nanometer APQ 8064 costs $20 to other companies, but we will give you a price no higher than NVIDIA's Tegra 3, which is only $12!"

"As for the baseband, the MDM 9615 supports 4G and full network access, and is bundled with the chip for $17 to friendly companies and $15 to you."

"MDM 8215 does not support 4G and telecom. It is sold as a bundle with the chip to other companies for $15, and you get $13."

Hearing this, Wang Yi fell silent.

Due to the contract, the price of the processor is not expensive, only US$12.