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Chapter 134: Card patent, right? Then I will research a patent myself!

"Mr. Luo, the thing I'm talking about must be a photolithography machine. What else could it be?"

"Of course, not only is it necessary to overcome the difficulty of the lithography machine, but other technologies are also needed!"

"However, the 28nm lithography machine we are studying is about to be successful. By then, I believe that with our continuous efforts, we will be able to find a more powerful EUV lithography machine!"

There was a kind of heroic meaning in Ji Shunqing's tone.

And Ji Shunqing didn't want to talk to Luo Feng about producing 5nm-level chips at all.

Because this seems unlikely.

Regarding the term "28nm lithography machine", although many people call it that, it actually refers to a lithography machine that can be used for 28nm chip manufacturing, that is, using a 193nm argon fluoride laser as a light source and using a mask for micro-projection.

"Yes, our country has indeed suffered too much in this field and has worked hard, but it seems that breakthroughs cannot match our efforts, right?"

"kindness!"

The other party still nodded. This is a good statement. Domestic experts, even officials, have greatly supported and provided funds.

But because of a lot of technology, we were stuck. No matter how hard we tried, we couldn't really solve the current gap.

It’s really a shame that everyone’s efforts have little practical effect.

Seeing that the other party seemed not to want to talk about this matter, Luo Feng was not unhappy, but felt that it was too unusual, and continued to ask: "Mr. Ji, do you think that if the problem of 5nm lithography equipment can be solved, then what else can be done? Any other problems?"

If you don’t understand, just ask. This is one of Luo Feng’s tenets.

Because even if Luo Feng could barely be considered an intellectual, it would be impossible for him to fully understand this field in a short period of time.

He is the kind of apprentice who just casually looked at the information and is just an entry-level apprentice in this field.

"If the problem of this photolithography machine can be solved, we will still face many problems. Our wafer fab alone cannot solve the problem of high-purity silicon wafers. Although we have indeed put into production, There is a clear gap between the crystalline silicon produced and the advanced technology in the world!"

Seeing that the other party insisted on asking this question, Ji Shunqing naturally answered the question honestly.

It's not just what I said.

There are too many chip problems, the lack of technology, lack of equipment, and lack of raw materials in the country, which are completely endless.

Otherwise, how could this field be so restricted?

To be honest, many people cannot understand why China can build atomic bombs, make breakthroughs in aerospace technology, and make effective progress in fighter jets and battleships.

But why is such a small thing, just a chip, so troublesome?

Isn't it because there are too many restrictions?

This is also impossible.

In any country, if there are too many deficiencies and too many restrictions in a certain technology, then they will be the same. It will be difficult to make any major breakthroughs in this field.

"Then Xiao Luo, look at this high-purity crystal silicon wafer."

Long Jianfei looked at Luo Feng at this moment. It seemed that the other party was thinking about the problem. To warm up, he also raised it a little.

"This thing, of course I can solve it!"

Luo Feng had been recalling just now, recalling what the robot from Tianyuan Planet said and whether there was such a thing.

But thinking about it, there should be related technology.

In this case, Luo Feng must have agreed.

"what?"

Hearing this, Ji Shunqing's eyes went straight. Are you kidding me? Can this be solved too? This is unlikely, right?

After that, Ji Shunqing's eyes were not surprised, but a little angry.

After all, for professionals like them, he can understand better that these things are impossible.

If you tell those outsiders, they might be able to deceive you.

At this moment, Ji Shunqing even suspected that the young man in front of him was deliberately trying to trick people, right?

"Haha, Mr. Ji, let's put it this way, I can handle the instrument and the production process, but I'm worried that after I bring the things back, it will cause us to stop studying this thing ourselves. s consequence!"

Luo Feng seemed a little angry when he saw this little doctor, and he didn't believe his expression, so he immediately said it seriously.

Luo Feng's eyes were bright at this moment, and he said decisively: "If everyone slacks off by then, or even drives backwards, I might as well not do such a thing!"

This remark directly confused Ji Shunqing. He opened his mouth and didn't speak, but after thinking about it and organizing his words, he said, "Mr. Luo, on the premise of what you said, can these things really be obtained?"

"Of course it can!" Luo Feng nodded without hesitation.

"Mr. Long." Seeing this, Ji Shunqing didn't know what to say, and couldn't follow the next sentence at all. He just looked at Long Jianfei.

"Shunqing, you don't know Xiao Luo very well. If he says he can do it, I think you can completely believe Xiao Luo!"

Long Jianfei chuckled and said the mantra he always kept on his lips.

If we say this sentence before, it didn’t have that much gold content.

But now, the gold content or trustworthiness of this sentence is very high.

Back and forth, Luo Feng did so many incredible things.

Those precious metal materials at the beginning, indeed, if there is a relationship, it can still be done.

But later on, the Raptor, the Ohio nuclear submarine, the desalination project?

These things, one after another, were beyond the imagination of experts, but they were all handled by Luo Feng and his team.

So, this sentence, you can always imagine Xiao Luo, has always been on Long Jianfei's lips, and it seems to have become Long Jianfei's first evaluation of Luo Feng.

"Yes, Mr. Ji, our Mr. Luo, only you can't think of it. Without you, we can't do it!" Seeing this, Zheng Zeyao couldn't help but say something. Zheng Zeyao has been in contact with many things before and after. You know. There must be a lot of stuff.

"this."

At this moment, Ji Shunqing looked at Long Jianfei's affirmative and serious tone, and began to hesitate whether to trust him or not.

Ji Shunqing began to look Luo Feng up and down, and found that his eyes were full of determination and confidence, with no intention of lying at all.

"Mr. Luo Feng, please forgive me for not believing you, but I would like to ask, if these things can be solved, can you solve the patent issue?"

Ji Shunqing said seriously.

Yes, patents are really important.

Speaking of this patent, Luo Feng was quite confused and helpless.

He can indeed get the machines, but after getting these instruments, how to produce them, then the next step is the issue of patents.

How to solve this problem, in fact, Luo Feng really has no choice.

Don't look at these two words, it's just a mere two words, it doesn't involve real objects, not raw materials, nor equipment.

But he is like a barrier that prevents Dragon Kingdom's chip technology from moving to the forefront of the world, firmly standing in front of it.

Patents are scary things.

If you don't have a patent, you can't do many things.

"Mr. Luo, you may not know that even if you have the required equipment, you can't produce it without the equipment. It involves the patent of the process, and we can't get around it."

"Then, there is nothing we can do?" Luo Feng frowned fiercely and asked.

"Mr. Luo, actually I understand why you ask so many questions." Ji Shunqing said and sighed, "Are you worried that if many things are not done perfectly by then, we will fall into the trap again and make things worse? Buying dilemma?”

"Yes!" Luo Feng nodded. This thing not only involves equipment, raw materials, but also patents. If it is not done well, the cost will go up. It is really better to buy than to make.

It is cheaper for others to make it, but it is so expensive for you to make it.

It's really better to buy it.

"Actually, it's not impossible, but for this method, we need to get a set of equipment!" Ji Shunqing saw Luo Feng's eyes showing some reluctance, and he said what he thought of.

"Get a piece of equipment?"

"Yes, if you can provide a set of equipment, then we can dismantle it for research. This will greatly reduce our research and development time."

Ji Shunqing just said it casually. He still didn't believe that Luo Feng had such ability.

But having said that, if you really get it and develop and crack it, then these patents will be yours.

Never be restricted by others again.

"What I mean is that I don't mind providing machines. What I'm worried about is that your research time is too long and you can't alleviate the current difficult situation as soon as possible!" Luo Feng said with a bitter smile.

In today's world, the price of chips, especially high-end chips, has been soaring.

Even if Ji Shunqing and others obtain actual samples and even a complete set of manufacturing processes, they still have to research and obtain this patent on their own. No one can guarantee how much will be lost in this time and how much time will it take. .

Seeing this, Ji Shunqing thought for a moment, and then suddenly said: "Of course, Mr. Luo, if you can provide the equipment and get the chips overseas at the same time? Then..."

"Chip? Just a chip? Finished product?"

"Yes!" Ji Shunqing nodded.

"There is no problem with this!" Luo Feng also nodded one after another.

"Ah?" Ji Shunqing was a little surprised, then Ling Ran said, "If you can provide chips, then these channels are probably abnormal channels, right?"

"Of course!" Luo Feng nodded again.

"If you set up several leather goods companies, obtain chips, and sell them domestically, they will soon find trouble with you. When the time comes, if one company goes bankrupt, you will have no choice but to find another company. If the company goes bankrupt again, then Just change companies again! But you have brought it up, I think you should be able to accept these things, right?" Ji Shunqing said helplessly, this is something Luo Feng should consider.

"Forehead!"

Seeing this, Luo Feng's expression became slightly strange.

When I met this Ji Shunqing just now, I still felt that he was a scholar, but now it seems that he has thick eyebrows and big eyes, why is he so bad?

The first half of this sentence is indeed okay. It is a reminder to Luo Feng of what will happen in the future.

But the last sentence was equivalent to blocking Luo Feng.

What I mean is, Luo Feng, just keep changing companies. After all, you are serving the country.

Of course, when it comes to his little thoughts, he actually has no selfish motives.

Because of the breakthrough in chip technology, apart from fame, what benefits can they get? Even in order to keep certain things confidential, their names will not be known.

So and so, I just want to develop it quickly considering the limitations of domestic chip technology.

"This is indeed a method, why don't you use it?" Luo Feng chuckled, and then asked, go and set up such a company yourself, and then buy the chips. If you are accused, you can just find another one.

"No matter how good the method is, it is a fact that there is not enough chip production capacity. And all the manufacturers that are capable of producing high-end chips, that is, it is too inconvenient to monitor! Therefore, our difficulty is not that we can't find a way. But I thought of a way, but couldn’t execute it.”

Ji Shunqing spread his hands helplessly.

Just like in the case of chips, it is obviously capable of designing a 3nm chip, but because the production process is not up to standard, it is impossible to manufacture it.

Not to mention the 3nm level, even the 7nm level, it still cannot be manufactured.

As for those top chip factories overseas that have such strength, they dare not take over the work.

Luo Feng began to think rapidly in his mind at this moment. After a pause, he looked at Long Jianfei and said, "Mr. Long, I want to find a few people to start a trading company overseas. What do you think?"

Long Jianfei also knew what Luo Feng meant, nodded and said, "No problem!"

The two sides did not discuss in detail how to start this matter, and ended the topic tacitly.

After Luo Feng left, Ji Shunqing asked: "Mr. Long, who is this Mr. Luo? You respect him so much, and can he really do what he said?"

Long Jianfei smiled, stood up, and patted the other person's shoulder, "Shunqing, have you forgotten what I told you? I said it, you can always trust Xiao Luo."

Ji Shunqing smiled bitterly and did not insist on the previous question. Instead, he said, "But Mr. Long, the world's high-end chip manufacturing has long been saturated. Where can he find production capacity?"

"Haha, that's all his business. Since he can agree, I think it's okay!" Long Jianfei thought for a while and said slowly.

Where to find production capacity?

This is indeed a big problem.

But no matter how big the problem is, it is almost no longer a problem when facing this little guy.

The previous Raptor? There are so many things, not all of them are out yet.

When they saw those things, everyone thought it was impossible at first, but in the end, they silently admitted it and silently admitted the impossible fact in front of them.