Rebirth 99 to become a car giant.
Chapter 695: Conflict escalates, strike first to gain the upper hand
Chapter 695: Conflict escalates, strike first to gain the upper hand
"Is there going to be a formal verdict?"
Cao Yang had already prepared for the worst.
Now that I received Xiang Wei's call, I wasn't very emotional.
New competition has begun, and Nanshan Group is not a company that cannot survive if someone gets stuck.
So even if previously uncertain news develops in the worst direction, it's not a big deal.
Even to a certain extent, it can be regarded as a complete decision for Cao Yang not to have any illusions.
"Yes, the United States will sentence us to infringe Qualcomm's patents and pay us US$15 billion in patent royalties and fines."
"If we cannot pay within one month, Honor phones will be banned from sale in the United States."
Xiang Wei's tone was a little low.
Although Cao Yang was mentally prepared, as the Minister of Justice, it was difficult for her to accept this result.
In matters like patent infringement, it is often the case that you are in the middle, and you are in the middle. Everyone has some patents that are difficult for the other party to avoid.
This kind of lawsuit is often a protracted wrangling lawsuit, and ultimately the two parties adopt a compromise solution.
But now the verdict is coming out so quickly in the United States.
Although Nanshan Group still has the opportunity to continue to appeal, the final result is obviously not optimistic.
"What they have in mind is very beautiful, 15 billion US dollars."
"hehe!"
"First they stole billions of dollars through Nvidia, and now they want to make us pay $15 billion through patent lawsuits."
"You don't need to worry about them, just go back to your country."
"We will not pay this money."
Cao Yang had never regarded the American market as his focus before.
Whether it is the automobile industry or the mobile phone industry, the United States is actually preparing for future conflicts between the two sides and has given up to a certain extent.
Now that the conflict has arrived early, Nanshan Group actually does not need to worry much.
Because Nanshan Group's main interests are not in the United States, there is currently no critical equipment that needs to be imported from the United States.
In particular, chips, which have been China's bottleneck for many years, have basically been solved by Nanshan Group.
Although some models have not been completed due to time issues, there are no major technical problems.
In terms of chip equipment, whether it is photolithography machines or etching machines, the problems have been solved.
Some other inconspicuous non-critical equipment or components will not have much impact.
Even in the United States, it takes a relatively long time to find out the information about the equipment that Nanshan Group is still importing.
To a certain extent, if China is restricted on non-critical equipment, it will actually harm the interests of the other party.
This forces Chinese companies to purchase these technologies from China or develop them themselves.
"Mr. Cao, if we withdraw like this, then Honor mobile phones will really have nothing to do with the American market in the future."
Xiang Wei felt that she still needed to emphasize the impact of this matter.
Lest you regret it later, the price will be higher.
However, this time Cao Yang obviously thought clearly and said directly: "The products of Honor mobile phones and the chips of Nanshan Semiconductor are all produced by local companies in the United States."
"Even if the other side doesn't restrict us today, they will use various means later to make it impossible for us to survive in the American market."
'Especially the greater the global influence of our industries, the more intense their reaction will be. '
"If you have the time, it would be better to go to the European market and the Japanese market to seize the market."
"Relatively speaking, these places will not easily use such drastic measures to deal with us."
"Even we have more means to deal with some of the means in these markets."
Cao Yang said this, so Xiang Wei naturally stopped worrying about it.
After all, litigation is actually very expensive.
Especially in the American market, litigation is a waste of money.
Soon, the news reported by Xiang Wei and Cao Yang officially became a fact.
The United States officially announced the results of the Honor mobile phone infringement case of Qualcomm patents.
Obviously, Honor Mobile lost this lawsuit.
……
"Mr. Xu, I feel that Qualcomm's case against Honor Mobile has sent a very bad signal."
"The same thing could happen to us."
The fact that Honor mobile phones were notified by Qualcomm and then lost the lawsuit spread quickly.
As Warwick, which has a relatively large market in the world, is naturally aware of the crisis at this time.
Honor mobile phones can lose the lawsuit, so when it is the turn of Warwick mobile phones, they are more likely to lose.
"Qualcomm's appearance is indeed a bit ugly, but they have quite a lot of patents in the 3G and 4G fields. Even if you want to completely avoid them, it is difficult."
"Even some of their patents are very rogue, but there's not much you can do about it."
"However, we also have a lot of patents in related fields. Although they cannot avoid Qualcomm's patents, it will be difficult for them to avoid our patents."
Xu Jun was not particularly worried.
After all, Warwick’s accumulation over the years was not in vain.
Qualcomm wants to press Warwick's head down, but it's obviously not that simple.
"That's true. With the development of the communications industry to this day, it is impossible for any company to monopolize all patents in a certain field."
"But in 3G and 4G, Qualcomm still has the most patents."
"I think it is necessary to do some preventive patent applications so that Qualcomm will not be able to easily disgust us in the future."
Naturally, Xu Jun would not object to Lian Zhitian's proposal.
You never know where the bottom line of American companies is.
As long as interests are involved, people can do anything.
Warwick has encountered various problems in developing overseas markets over the years.
"Honor Mobile suffered a lot this time, and I don't know what response plan they will take."
"The most troublesome thing is that even if the amount of 15 billion US dollars is paid normally, there is no way to avoid being targeted by Qualcomm or other companies in the future."
Xu Jun actually understands the dilemma that Honor mobile phones are currently facing.
It can be said that there is no way to go left or right, it is very troublesome.
"The United States will take action against Honor Mobile mainly because Honor Mobile and Nanshan Semiconductor have threatened their core interests."
"They don't have the confidence to defeat Honor Mobile and Nanshan Semiconductor through normal means, so they can only resort to various underhanded tactics."
"But from this perspective, it can be regarded as side evidence that Nanshan Semiconductor's technology is really good. Their 28-nanometer process should be mature soon."
"We in China will no longer have to worry about being stuck in semiconductors in the future."
Lian Zhitian has been engaged in semiconductors for so many years, and he has a very good understanding of the domestic situation in this area.
Even the previous nationwide efforts to support the development of SMIC only solved some of the production problems of mid- and low-end chips.
There is still a huge gap between the overall strength level and the international level.
"Yes, from now on, we won't have to worry about chip supply issues for our mobile phones or other devices."
"This is of extraordinary significance to the whole of China."
"That's why the ministries and commissions have issued export review policies for germanium and gallium-related materials. This is actually a statement of support for Nanshan Semiconductor."
Now everyone has understood the meaning behind this announcement issued by China.
Although Nanshan Group is only a private enterprise, its status in China is higher than that of many central enterprises.
The advanced technology they already have in their hands cannot be matched by ordinary companies.
"Honor mobile phones are now being further forced by the United States, and I don't know if further domestic support measures will be introduced."
"This time, I hope the ministry can be a little tougher and directly suppress the arrogance of the American side."
"Otherwise, people may repeat the same tricks in the future, and we don't know which company will be unlucky."
The United States has always been very protective of its companies.
If there is any problem, the authorities will always come forward.
Relatively speaking, China is more cautious in this regard.
Even Shida was quite critical of this.
In the past, many Chinese companies were bullied outside, but no one stepped forward to help.
Naturally, he didn't want this situation to remain like this.
"Let the bullets fly for a while. I guess neither the Nanshan Group nor the ministries will sit still and wait for death."
"Although Nanshan Group is not short of the US$15 billion, I don't think Mr. Cao will easily agree to pay this money."
"Having started this, it would be too exaggerated if every Honor phone really has to pay Qualcomm a 5% patent fee in the future."
"After all, many parts on the mobile phone have nothing to do with Qualcomm, and the final selling price has nothing to do with Qualcomm."
"As a result, when paying the patent fee, you have to pay it according to the sales price of the mobile phone. It is simply a rogue."
Xu Jun couldn't stand Qualcomm's behavior.
Although you have invested a lot of manpower in developing new technologies, you are not like a "patent troll" lying on the hands of mobile phone manufacturers to suck blood.
However, there are some things that he can't just do whatever he wants.
……
"Mr. Li, the United States is still tough enough. Even when China restricts the export of two rare metals, it dares to directly declare the Honor mobile phone to lose the case."
"We are preparing to confront China."
Chai Hang is in a very good mood now.
What Samsung was pushing behind the scenes is now back on track.
As long as the United States and China directly confront each other about Honor mobile phones and Nanshan Semiconductor, Samsung will become the fisherman who "fights with the snipe and the clam, and the fisherman wins."
This is very beneficial to Samsung’s future development in China.
"The headquarters has agreed to build a large-scale chip factory in China, and official news will start to be released in the next two days."
<divclass="contentadv">"In this way, we don't need to worry about the adverse impact this incident will have on us."
"The more fiercely American companies fight against Nanshan Group and China, the better it will be for us."
Li Zailin is also smiling now.
In his opinion, the United States is doing this to force Nanshan Group to bow its head and China to bow its head.
This is a very representative thing.
Once Nanshan Group bows its head, it will not only be the chip companies in the United States that will enjoy the benefits, but Samsung will also be able to share the dividends.
"Cao Yang must be very proud that Nanshan Group has been able to develop to its current scale in just over ten years."
"And the more proud he is, the harder it is to get off the horse now."
"It doesn't matter if he pays the US$15 billion, or if he doesn't."
"And I think no matter what Nanshan Group chooses, there will definitely be back-up plans waiting for it in the United States."
Chai Hang imagined what he would do if he were Cao Yang.
No matter how you think about it, the final result seems not to be very good.
"During this period, there are a lot of public opinions on the Internet that are not very favorable to the United States and Korea."
"You arrange for people to guide us and let everyone point their guns at the companies in the United States."
"Whether it's Qualcomm or Apple, as long as the Chinese people are full of anger towards these American companies, we, Samsung, will eventually make a profit."
Cao Yang can see that the future mobile phone market will be a competition between Samsung, Apple and Honor, and Li Zailin can naturally see it too.
In this case, he naturally hopes that the competition between Apple phones and Honor phones in the market will be as fierce as possible.
At that time, they can seize the market in a low-key manner and take the first position in the industry.
When the time comes for Apple phones and Honor phones to decide the winner, they find that a large chunk of the market has been taken away by Samsung.
That scene must have been interesting.
"I'm already making arrangements. In fact, we are not doing anything, and Nanshan Group is not idle either."
“Whether it’s on Weibo or other websites, there are a lot of negative news exposing American companies.”
"But what's interesting is that many well-known figures on the Chinese Internet are actually speaking for Americans."
"There are actually quite a few people like this."
"Because the two groups of people collided on the Internet, related topics have been very hot these days."
"If we add a little more firepower behind the scenes, things will develop even faster."
As the deputy director of Samsung China Sales Department, Chai Hang naturally pays close attention to actions on the Internet.
All current developments are very beneficial to Samsung.
……
However, Samsung is happy, but Apple China is depressed.
Lin Rong felt that what she was worried about was developing towards the worst situation.
However, she was a soft-spoken person and had no way of influencing the thoughts of the headquarters.
"Mr. Wang, our sales of mobile phones and computers have dropped by 20% in the past week compared to last month."
“This trend does not see any change in the short term.”
"Now the United States directly requires Honor phones to pay high royalties and fines, otherwise it will officially ban the sale of Honor phones."
"I think if this situation continues, even if the situation is a little out of control, it will actually be very detrimental to us."
Lin Rong had previously discussed with Wang Ziming the pros and cons of banning the sale of Honor phones in the United States.
She and Wang Ziming have basically reached a consensus.
Wang Ziming even reported to the headquarters specifically about this matter, but to no avail.
"As soon as the news came out, I went to the headquarters to inquire about it."
"Although the current case is Qualcomm suing Honor Mobile, it is related to Apple, Intel, TI and other companies behind the case."
"It can be said that this time it is American high-tech companies that are working together to deal with Nanshan Group."
"The Honor phone is just an entry point, and there will be more moves in the next step."
When Wang Ziming said this, Lin Rong's expression suddenly dropped.
More action?
How can she sell Apple phones and computers?
If the performance is not good, the bonus will be gone by then.
"Mr. Wang, is the threat from Nanshan Group really that big? Do we need so many companies in the United States to join forces to deal with them?"
Although Lin Rong also knew that Nanshan Group had a great influence in China, she also knew that Nanshan Group was different from ordinary Chinese companies.
But seeing so many well-known companies in the United States joining forces to deal with Nanshan Group, she still felt that it was making a mountain out of a molehill.
However, this time Wang Ziming had a slightly different view from hers.
"The semiconductor industry is the most core industry in the United States and no country is allowed to threaten them."
"Japan's semiconductor companies were developing very rapidly at the beginning, and after they threatened the interests of the United States, they were immediately dealt with by various means."
"Now Nanshan Group has quickly broken the international blockade in terms of semiconductor equipment and chip production, and it has unexpectedly broken through the 28-nanometer process technology."
"This has touched the bottom line of the United States, so it is inevitable to be targeted."
When Wang Ziming said this, Lin Rong couldn't help but ask: "But Samsung and TSMC are also developing well now. Infineon in Germany is also very good. There are also other companies such as STMicroelectronics. They are not American companies." ah."
Regarding Lin Rong's question, Wang Ziming gave the answer without any hesitation.
"Samsung Electronics looks like a Korean company, but it is actually a company dominated by Wall Street."
"There are many Wall Street interests involved behind this, and TSMC's situation is actually similar."
"The most important thing is that the development of both Samsung and TSMC has been approved by the United States."
"It can be said that the United States can stop production whenever it wants Samsung and TSMC."
"For example, TSMC's biggest business is to help American chip companies manufacture chips. It is not yet the top player in the industry."
"As for Infineon and STMicroelectronics you mentioned, the situation is actually somewhat similar."
"If you look at how many military bases the United States has in Germany, you won't think that Infineon's development will pose any threat to Wall Street."
"As long as people think about it, they can teach companies like Infineon and STMicroelectronics how to behave in minutes."
"But Nanshan Group is different. This is a company that doesn't listen to greetings at all."
"Don't even say he was just being greeted. The purpose of his existence is to break the U.S. monopoly in the chip industry. He is a rule-breaker."
"So it is inevitable to be suppressed and targeted."
"Even if there is no Honor mobile phone, as long as Nanshan Semiconductor continues to develop, it will continue to be targeted."
After hearing Wang Ziming's explanation, Lin Rong opened her mouth, but in the end she said nothing.
Because she knew what Wang Ziming said made sense and she had nothing to defend.
But the more this happened, the more worried she became about Apple's situation in China.
Because of the Honor mobile phone being targeted by the United States, the most publicized thing on the Chinese Internet is that Apple mobile phones are causing trouble behind the scenes.
Some people even launched an action on the Internet to resist Apple mobile phones and Apple computers.
These will directly affect Apple's sales.
And as if to confirm Lin Rong's concerns, the day after Honor Mobile lost the lawsuit, China's case against Honor Mobile for infringement of Apple's mobile phone was suddenly heard in court.
Originally, many people thought that this kind of design patent infringement case would not be easy to achieve a result.
Many car companies initially sued China's own brands for appearance infringement. Even if they finally won the lawsuit, it was only after a long period of wrangling.
But this sudden court session gave everyone a very different result.
[Apple’s iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S infringe upon the patents of Honor mobile phones. The evidence is conclusive. They will stop sales from now on and compensate 15 billion yuan for losses related to Honor mobile phones. 】
The verdict is long, but it can be summed up in this sentence.
As soon as the verdict came out, it immediately became a hot search on Weibo.
"It should have been judged long ago. When the iPhone 4 came out, I thought it looked almost exactly the same as the HONOR 3G."
"American companies cannot do such disgusting things, but we have never punished them."
"Even some so-called fruit fans are still there to defend themselves. It's really disgusting."
Xia Qingqing came to Cao Yang's office immediately and discussed the next step with Cao Yang regarding the ban on the sale of Apple mobile phones.
This can be regarded as the most influential judgment in China's patent field in recent years.
In particular, the timing of the judgment was so sensitive and the amount of the fine was such a coincidence.
US$15 billion VS RMB15 billion.
Although it is not a quantitative amount, this figure is also the highest among China's patent disputes.
The United States has just awarded a US$15 billion lawsuit against Honor mobile phones, and China has sentenced Apple mobile phones to a penalty of RMB 15 billion.
If there is no connection between these two things, no one will believe it.
But if you ask people formally, the answer will definitely be that it doesn't matter.
"Honor mobile phones have lost the American market, and Apple mobile phones have lost the Chinese market. As a result, we are not at a loss."
"It's just to let Samsung get a bargain, and we can't make it easier for them."
At this stage, Cao Yang knew that Apple mobile phones were considered useless in China.
It will be useless within the next year at least.
In the future, even after the iPhone 5 comes out, it will no longer have anything to do with Honor phones in appearance. It will not be that easy to continue to expand business in the Chinese market.
At that time, Honor mobile phones can continue to sue Apple mobile phones based on other patents.
For example, the setting of the HOME button, such as some patents on the touch screen.
Anyway, I can always find a place to fuck you.
"We must deal with Samsung, but if we ban the sale of Apple phones, I wonder how Apple will react?"
Xia Qingqing obviously felt that this matter would not simply end with the court's decision.
If things in this world were really that simple, there wouldn't be so many disputes and protracted lawsuits.
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