Rebirth 99 to become a car giant.

Chapter 259: Holding BYD with the left hand and pulling HiSilicon with the right hand

Cao Yang now looks more and more like a capitalist.

He just pulled Zhang Jing into his chariot yesterday, and he started to invite people to work with him before he even completed the resignation procedures.

"Mr. Cao, Warwick's technology accumulation in the semiconductor field is indeed relatively good, but because of this, I am not very optimistic about this cooperation."

"Mr. Xu is very skilled in technology, but his style is also very tough."

"It should be difficult for them to accept that a layman from Nanshan would cooperate with them to produce chips."

On the way to Warwick, Zhang Jing directly expressed his opinion.

As a professor in the Microelectronics Department of Lingnan University of Technology, his original job overlapped with that of Warwick Semiconductor Division.

Therefore, he obviously has a deeper understanding of Warwick Semiconductor Division than Cao Yang.

"There are very few companies in China that are serious about chip design. Warwick is down-to-earth and serious about chip design."

"It is naturally unrealistic to ask them to take out their semiconductor division to form a joint venture with us."

"But if the two sides carry out some technical cooperation, or even some commissioned research and development projects, I think there shouldn't be a big problem."

When Cao Yang said this, Zhang Jing breathed a sigh of relief.

This goal is not outrageous.

"If we just engage in technical cooperation, or let them help develop some chips used in auto parts, there will definitely be no problem."

"Until now, the chips designed by Warwick Semiconductor Division have been used by themselves."

"If they can expand the market outside the company, it will be an achievement for them."

"I even think we can first let them produce ASICs used in ECUs and other auto parts. They already have some experience in this area."

"The results will be produced quickly, and it will also allow our people in the Nanshan Semiconductor Division to follow and learn quickly."

Zhang Jing quickly began to put forward some of his own ideas.

Nanshan Group has invested so many resources in semiconductors, although Cao Yang said it doesn't matter if it doesn't produce results in the short term.

But Zhang Jing definitely hopes to come up with something.

Otherwise, he would feel embarrassed every year during the year-end summary.

The bosses of other branches will probably look at him differently.

"Your proposal is a good one. ASIC is the specialty of Warwick Semiconductor Division, so we will cooperate with them in this aspect."

"No matter which cooperation method is adopted, as long as we can cooperate and as long as the ASICs we need can be produced domestically, it will be progress."

Although Cao Yang is very optimistic about the future of Warwick Semiconductor Division.

It would be best if Nanshan could get involved when the other party spins off the semiconductor division to establish HiSilicon this year.

Soon, the group arrived in Warwick.

Zhang Jing's relationship with the other party is obviously much more familiar than that of Cao Yang.

In this way, it actually saved Cao Yang a lot of trouble.

After all, he, the group boss, can't be the one who takes the lead in everything.

"Professor Zhang, I have invited you to Warwick Semiconductor Division many times before, but you have never been successful."

"In the end, you turned around and went to Nanshan Group. You are a bit biased."

Xu Jun and Zhang Jing obviously have a good relationship, otherwise they wouldn't be joking like this.

"I have no choice. I have already settled in Yangcheng. It really takes courage to change to another city."

Zhang Jing couldn't say that Cao Yang gave him too much, so he could only give another reason.

The teams on both sides chatted like this for five or six minutes before getting down to the topic.

“I have also heard about Nanshan’s chip supply being cut off by Infineon.”

"But I heard that NXP and STMicroelectronics are very willing to provide you with chips. It stands to reason that you can just switch chips. Why do you have to go to all the trouble to make your own chips?"

"It's like we want to eat pork, but there's no need to raise pigs ourselves."

"I'm not quite sure what you think, Mr. Cao."

Through the pleasantries just now, Xu Jun already roughly understood Nanshan's request this time.

Cooperation can naturally be considered.

But in the case of a joint venture, careful consideration is needed.

"Mr. Xu, Warwick is a leader in the electronic technology industry. Each device uses a large number of chips."

"After 13 years of development, Warwick can now produce most of its own chips."

"But some chips still need to be imported from abroad, right?"

Cao Yang did not answer Xu Jun's question directly, but asked a question in turn.

This can be regarded as another way to seize the initiative in negotiations.

"Yes, there are too many types of chips. Our semiconductor division is still relatively weak. It is impossible to develop all chips by ourselves."

"And even for the chips we developed ourselves, we only completed the design work, and the subsequent production was handed over to foundries such as TSMC."

"Strictly speaking, none of our chips are completely designed and produced by ourselves."

Xu Jun is not afraid of exposing his shortcomings.

It's no secret anyway.

Besides, Zhang Jing, director of Nanshan Semiconductor Division, is still an old acquaintance and knows the situation of Warwick Semiconductor very well.

"Yes, the gap between the domestic chip industry and foreign countries is too big."

"Warwick is already considered one of the best manufacturers, but it can only reach this level."

"Besides, the amount of money China now spends on chip imports every year should be a very exaggerated figure."

"The foreign currency we earn from shirt to shirt is chips made from pieces of sand."

"This situation should not continue forever!"

On the way here, Cao Yang also learned about Xu Jun's character from Zhang Jing.

I know that this is a character who has a strong sense of family and country.

In this way, he will naturally know from what angle he should discuss cooperation with others.

"Mr. Cao can think so, and his vision is much better than other domestic auto parts companies and independent brand car companies."

"China's automobile industry has developed very rapidly in recent years, and all major international automobile companies have basically established joint ventures in China."

"It seems that China's automobile industry has become a lot bigger, but it has not become much stronger."

"If they all, like Mr. Cao, attach great importance to technology and the research and development of core technologies, then the situation in the future may change."

"However, chip research and development is very expensive."

"Frankly speaking, Warwick Semiconductor Division has not been profitable strictly speaking in these years."

"From 1991 to now, more than ten years ago, we still haven't made a profit."

"Although this is due to our internal price accounting and R&D expense accounting, it can also be seen that chips are not that easy to deal with."

Basically, everyone who discusses chip research and development with Cao Yang will mention that this industry is not easy.

On the one hand, it is to give Cao Yang a correct understanding of chip research, and on the other hand, it is to inoculate Cao Yang.

"Mr. Xu, of course I understand what you said."

"Nanshan has now established a joint venture with BYD to specialize in semiconductor research."

"The company has also established a dedicated semiconductor division within the company and is preparing to make it the focus of development in the next ten years."

"I am already prepared for Nanshan Semiconductor to be unprofitable for ten years!"

Cao Yang gave his reply very firmly.

This made Xu Jun couldn't help but take a high look.

Go ahead to dangers.

At least Nanshan Group now has the courage, which deserves recognition.

"Our current semiconductor division mainly serves the company's internal needs, but we are also discussing spinning it off."

"If nothing unexpected happens, this work will be completed in the second half of this year."

"When the time comes, our newly established semiconductor company is willing to cooperate with Nanshan to develop some automotive-grade chips for Nanshan."

Xu Jun obviously did not consider setting up any joint venture with Nanshan.

BYD is BYD, and Warwick is Warwick.

In the semiconductor field, Xu Jun obviously still looks down upon BYD and Nanshan.

But as a customer, he is a good customer.

Knowing that chips are not easy, it should be understandable that they will be more expensive in the future, right?

"As Mr. Xu said, chip research is very expensive."

"After becoming independent, there is no direct blood transfusion from the parent company, and we need to be responsible for our own profits and losses. The pressure will definitely be greater."

"Mr. Xu, have you considered letting Nanshan participate in the formation of the new company?"

Although Cao Yang already knew that this hope was not very high, he still wanted to try hard.

HiSilicon!

This is definitely a masterpiece and worth looking forward to.

"terribly sorry!"

"Mr. Cao, our new company is happy to cooperate with Nanshan, but this cooperation method does not include joint ventures!"

Xu Jun rejected Cao Yang directly.

Warwick is not short of money and will not bring in investors simply for money.

Otherwise, capital from Shencheng would have come in long ago.

"Mr. Cao, actually I think the cooperation model of entrusting car-level chips to start is not bad. If everyone gets in touch slowly, maybe your ideas will change in the future."

Zhang Jing was worried that the conversation would collapse, so he quickly intervened.

"Yes, Professor Zhang is right. We are very willing to help Nanshan develop automotive-grade chips."

Xu Jun also realized that his reply just now was a bit too blunt, so he quickly added.

Cao Yang is not that petty.

Don't get angry because of this.

However, it is somewhat disappointing.

Nanshan's current strength is still a bit insufficient.

It seems that we need to get something out as soon as possible to let everyone see the level of Nanshan.