Rebirth 99 to become a car giant.
Chapter 143 What about the giants? 1 hit! (2 in 1)
Chapter 143 What about the giants?Fight the same! ([-]-in-[-])
Accusing others from the moral high ground is often difficult to refute.
Although this trick may not have actual effect most of the time, it is definitely enough to make you sick.
Now Cao Yang felt disgusted.
He's not too worried, though.
"The main negotiations to join the WTO are basically over."
"Those major contracting countries, especially those related to the machine tool industry, whether it is the United States, Germany, France, England, or Japan, have completed negotiations."
"It is completely nonsense to say that this matter will affect China's accession to the WTO."
"However, this method of increasing the price of CNC systems will definitely not work because Siemens and FANUC will make money in China's machine tool industry."
Cao Yang did not expect that the two giants Siemens and Fanuc would also end up.
It seems that Schuler and Aida hate Nanshan to death.
Cao Yang absolutely did not believe that there was no operation of Schuler and Aida behind this matter.
"We can understand this, but netizens on the Internet may not understand it."
"They just think we are going against the grain, and that's why we have done so many things."
"The most important thing is that after such a price increase, the domestic machine tool industry has been greatly affected."
Zeng Tingting now feels that Nanshan is too difficult.
Even good development can encounter so many obstacles.
None of those international giants hope that Nanshan can develop and grow.
"The CNC systems of our own presses are all self-developed. I never thought that we would be in conflict with international giants so quickly in the field of parts for these equipments."
"Now it seems that Siemens and Fanuc feel that there is really nothing we can do against them."
The hardware part of Nanshan's CNC system is purchased from domestic manufacturers, and the design work is all completed in Nanshan.
Relevant software is also purchased from the market or developed by oneself.
Of course, because he was afraid that some things would not be clear if he got into the details, Cao Yang always adhered to a low-key approach to handling these matters.
I originally thought that in a few years, when Nanshan's strength would be strong enough, I would take out these things one by one and sell them to the outside world.
In this way, even if everyone has questions, they won't feel too abnormal.
"Siemens and Fanuc account for [-]% of the CNC system share in the domestic machine tool industry, although universities and research institutes such as Huaqing University and Lingnan University of Technology have done some research on CNC systems."
“But very little has been put into practical use.”
"This time they have found the vitality of China's machine tool industry, and they probably want to use this to force China to cancel the tariff increase."
The more Zeng Tingting analyzed, the more she felt that the situation was not good.
Nanshan seems to have provoked a lot of opponents.
"Although different machine tools require different systems for CNC systems, the requirements are basically similar for the same type of products, and they can be used directly after modifications."
"Since Siemens and Fanuc want to take advantage of China's machine tool industry, let them regret it."
"Call Lao Pan over and I'll discuss something with him."
At this moment, Cao Yang was ready to make a big deal.
Let Siemens and Fanuc feel the feeling of shooting themselves in the foot first.
……
"Mr. Cao, this matter is a bit big."
When Nanshan Technology Co., Ltd. was discussing the CNC system internally, Zhang Sheng called Cao Yang again.
When he heard the news before, Zhang Sheng had already communicated the situation with Cao Yang.
At that time, everyone's reaction was to wait and see for a few days to see how the situation develops.
Zhang Sheng did not expect that the situation would change so quickly, and immediately went to find Cao Yang again.
"what happened?"
"Has anyone found you again?"
After making a decision in his heart, Cao Yang didn't panic anymore.
Isn't it just a CNC system?
Do you really think that only Siemens and FANUC can do it?
"Shenyi Machine Tool Factory, Beiyi Machine Tool Factory, Jiyi Machine Tool Factory and other dozens of other machine tool factories are now causing trouble."
"They either went to the top to respond, or they called me."
"As soon as they inquired about the increase in tariffs on stamping equipment, they found out that it was our Ji Er Machine Tool Factory who proposed it."
"Then I don't know who was behind it, saying that Nanshan encouraged Ji Er to carry out this plan."
"This matter has a great impact, and I can't bear it anymore."
Zhang Sheng really didn't expect that an increase in tariffs on stamping equipment would have such a big repercussions.
He had a feeling that Schuler and Aida took this opportunity to deliberately suppress Ji Er Machine Tool Factory and Nanshan Technology Co., Ltd.
After all, there are many machine tool manufacturers in China, many of which are state-owned enterprises like Ji Er.
The combined power of these companies is huge.
There are even ways for Ji Er and Nanshan to be suppressed and punished by policies in this industry.
So Zhang Sheng couldn't stand it anymore.
"Mr. Zhang, all companies purchase CNC systems for machine tools when they have needs."
"Overall, the price increase plans of Siemens and Fanuc have not yet had much substantial impact on the industry."
"As long as we solve this problem before various companies need to purchase large quantities of CNC systems with increased prices, the situation will still be under control."
When Zeng Tingting showed Cao Yang the online reports, Cao Yang knew there was someone behind this incident.
Considering the people Nanshan has offended this year, it is very certain that Schuler and Aida were behind this.
Because later Cao Yang asked people to find out that there were a few other manufacturers of CNC systems on the market who had no intention of raising prices.
I even thought about taking this opportunity to expand the market.
In this way, the reasons mentioned in the previous price increase letters from Siemens and FANUC can be proven to be nonsense.
These two manufacturers, which have almost a monopoly on machine tool CNC systems, are making huge profits by taking advantage of their monopoly position.
Unfortunately, China does not have an anti-monopoly law yet, so even if you want to sue others, it is difficult to sue.
However, thinking of the anti-monopoly law, Cao Yang had an idea and thought he could bring it up again to scare Siemens and Fanuc.
If their behavior were conducted in the United States, they would definitely be taught a lesson by antitrust laws.
"By the way, Mr. Zhang, you should be paying attention to the antitrust issues in auto parts in the United States, right?"
“I think we can use this opportunity to once again mention the legislation of the Anti-Monopoly Law to the higher authorities.”
"Then we also launched some public opinion offensives on the Internet to let everyone know that the reason why China wants to enact the Anti-Monopoly Law is because of the price increases of Siemens and Fanuc."
Cao Yang felt that Zhang Sheng was a little entangled, and immediately came up with another way to counterattack.
Didn’t Siemens and Fanuc use the increase in stamping machine tariffs as an excuse?
There is a group of people behind the scenes who stand on the moral high ground and angrily criticize Nanshan.
It seems that Nanshan did something wrong, which caused domestic machine tool manufacturers to suffer losses.
Then I will also make Siemens and Fanuc feel uncomfortable.
Although the Anti-Monopoly Law may not be promulgated so easily in the end, this public opinion offensive is definitely enough to give them a drink.
Countless international giants who have formed de facto monopolies in China are probably going to scold Siemens and Fanuc.
Especially Siemens, which itself is involved in monopolies in some other fields.
By then, it is estimated that there will be some quarrels among various internal business units.
Let's see if the people in charge of the CNC system can live a comfortable life.
"Anti-Monopoly Law?"
"Mr. Cao, do you want to use this thing to deal with Siemens and Fanuc?"
Zhang Sheng's mood soon changed.
He didn't expect Cao Yang to come up with some new ideas so quickly.
The key is that this new idea seems to be very effective when used against Siemens and Fanuc.
"Yes, there is no Anti-Monopoly Law in China. If we push it behind the scenes, it will definitely touch the interests of many people."
“At that time, Siemens and FANUC will have to shoulder the blame.”
"They probably asked for mercy after the commotion became too big."
Cao Yang didn't think that international giants were so superior.
As long as you find the right method, Nanshan can make them uncomfortable.
"But if the Anti-Monopoly Law is really implemented, I'm afraid many of our own domestic companies will have objections."
"Strictly speaking, fields such as tobacco, telecommunications, and oil have something to do with monopoly."
As the general manager of a state-owned enterprise, Zhang Sheng considers issues much more comprehensively than Cao Yang and has many more worries.
He didn't want to become a thorn in the side of a bunch of companies again.
In that case, he wouldn't even be able to keep his position.
"Mr. Zhang, you are right."
"So the Anti-Monopoly Law should not be easily promulgated in a short period of time."
"But it does not prevent us from using this thing to deal with international giants, so that they can be unscrupulous."
"You can also reveal this meaning to me when the time comes. If you just act together in a scene, I think the difficulty will be much lower."
"Or just send out a draft of the Anti-Monopoly Law for comments."
"At that time, we will say that the differences between the parties' demands are too big and need further study, and the matter will be postponed."
Cao Yang felt Zhang Sheng's hesitation and worked for him.
At this time, he didn't want Ji'er Machine Tool Factory to be a coward.
"If it's made clear that it's just for show, then you can still give it a try."
"Other companies won't have much reaction if they find out."
"But the most critical problem now is that the price of CNC systems has increased too much."
"Even if we bring about the Anti-Monopoly Law, it may not be reduced in a short time."
"We have to find a way to solve this problem."
What Zhang Sheng is most concerned about now is the price increase of CNC systems.
Ji Er has a lot of equipment to purchase from Siemens and Fanuc.
If this price doesn't come down quickly, life will be difficult.
"Mr. Zhang, regarding the CNC system, I have an alternative for everyone to use."
"Nanshan's presses now use their own CNC systems, instead of purchasing them from Siemens and FANUC."
"In order to prevent everyone from being squeezed by Siemens and Fanuc, Nanshan is willing to sell the CNC system that has been exclusively studied for nearly ten years."
"The price will remain the same as before the price increases of Siemens and Fanuc."
When Cao Yang said this, Zhang Sheng was stunned.
Nanshan Technology Co., Ltd. only has a history of about ten years, right?
Where do you get the CNC system that has been exclusively studied for nearly ten years?
Before, he really didn't know that Nanshan's presses all used their own CNC systems. He thought they bought them from Siemens or FANUC like everyone else.
This situation is a bit surprising.
"Mr. Cao, your press uses a CNC system developed by yourself?"
Zhang Sheng couldn't help but confirm again.
This matter is really inconsistent with his knowledge.
"Yes."
"In terms of CNC systems, Nanshan has not only conducted research on its own for many years, but has also established joint research projects with Huaqing University, Lingnan University of Technology and other universities."
“In the future, we will strive to achieve localization of all control-related parts.”
"If Mr. Zhang has any questions, you can come to Nanshan to visit the site and see how our CNC system is installed on each press."
When Cao Yang said this, although Zhang Sheng still had many questions in his mind, he believed that Nanshan really researched CNC systems on his own.
In particular, Cao Yang also dragged Huaqing University and Lingnan Ligong University into it.
This makes the story seem more real.
If he knew that the cooperation between Nanshan and these two institutes had just begun, new questions would probably arise.
"Siemens and Fanuc make a wide range of CNC systems, with various models."
"Even if Nanshan can meet the needs of CNC systems for stamping equipment, there is no way to meet the needs of other machine tools, right?"
Zhang Sheng raised a new question.
In his view, the most critical thing now is to make cheap CNC systems available to the majority of machine tool companies.
Otherwise, this matter would not have been resolved so smoothly.
"Nanshan definitely doesn't have as many varieties as they do."
"We have to admit that."
"But we don't only have CNC systems for stamping equipment. We also have some CNC systems for milling machines, grinders, and boring machines."
Cao Yang was not so full of words.
It would be weird if Nanshan had everything.
"However, don't you think that as long as Nanshan can take part of it, that will be enough?"
"When Siemens and Fanuc see this scene, will they continue to sell CNC systems at high prices?"
"Aren't they afraid that all the Chinese markets will be swallowed up by Nanshan?"
When Cao Yang asked this question, Zhang Sheng was stunned for a moment.
If Nanshan's strength is really that strong, then it won't be long before Siemens and FANUC withdraw their price increase letters, right?
What reason will they find for lowering prices then?
Is the chip issue solved?
"Mr. Zhang, are you sure what you just said was not a joke?"
"If this disappoints all the machine tool companies again, things will be really serious."
Zhang Sheng, who felt a little relieved, felt that this matter needed to be confirmed again.
He was even ready to lead a team to Nanshan himself.
Accusing others from the moral high ground is often difficult to refute.
Although this trick may not have actual effect most of the time, it is definitely enough to make you sick.
Now Cao Yang felt disgusted.
He's not too worried, though.
"The main negotiations to join the WTO are basically over."
"Those major contracting countries, especially those related to the machine tool industry, whether it is the United States, Germany, France, England, or Japan, have completed negotiations."
"It is completely nonsense to say that this matter will affect China's accession to the WTO."
"However, this method of increasing the price of CNC systems will definitely not work because Siemens and FANUC will make money in China's machine tool industry."
Cao Yang did not expect that the two giants Siemens and Fanuc would also end up.
It seems that Schuler and Aida hate Nanshan to death.
Cao Yang absolutely did not believe that there was no operation of Schuler and Aida behind this matter.
"We can understand this, but netizens on the Internet may not understand it."
"They just think we are going against the grain, and that's why we have done so many things."
"The most important thing is that after such a price increase, the domestic machine tool industry has been greatly affected."
Zeng Tingting now feels that Nanshan is too difficult.
Even good development can encounter so many obstacles.
None of those international giants hope that Nanshan can develop and grow.
"The CNC systems of our own presses are all self-developed. I never thought that we would be in conflict with international giants so quickly in the field of parts for these equipments."
"Now it seems that Siemens and Fanuc feel that there is really nothing we can do against them."
The hardware part of Nanshan's CNC system is purchased from domestic manufacturers, and the design work is all completed in Nanshan.
Relevant software is also purchased from the market or developed by oneself.
Of course, because he was afraid that some things would not be clear if he got into the details, Cao Yang always adhered to a low-key approach to handling these matters.
I originally thought that in a few years, when Nanshan's strength would be strong enough, I would take out these things one by one and sell them to the outside world.
In this way, even if everyone has questions, they won't feel too abnormal.
"Siemens and Fanuc account for [-]% of the CNC system share in the domestic machine tool industry, although universities and research institutes such as Huaqing University and Lingnan University of Technology have done some research on CNC systems."
“But very little has been put into practical use.”
"This time they have found the vitality of China's machine tool industry, and they probably want to use this to force China to cancel the tariff increase."
The more Zeng Tingting analyzed, the more she felt that the situation was not good.
Nanshan seems to have provoked a lot of opponents.
"Although different machine tools require different systems for CNC systems, the requirements are basically similar for the same type of products, and they can be used directly after modifications."
"Since Siemens and Fanuc want to take advantage of China's machine tool industry, let them regret it."
"Call Lao Pan over and I'll discuss something with him."
At this moment, Cao Yang was ready to make a big deal.
Let Siemens and Fanuc feel the feeling of shooting themselves in the foot first.
……
"Mr. Cao, this matter is a bit big."
When Nanshan Technology Co., Ltd. was discussing the CNC system internally, Zhang Sheng called Cao Yang again.
When he heard the news before, Zhang Sheng had already communicated the situation with Cao Yang.
At that time, everyone's reaction was to wait and see for a few days to see how the situation develops.
Zhang Sheng did not expect that the situation would change so quickly, and immediately went to find Cao Yang again.
"what happened?"
"Has anyone found you again?"
After making a decision in his heart, Cao Yang didn't panic anymore.
Isn't it just a CNC system?
Do you really think that only Siemens and FANUC can do it?
"Shenyi Machine Tool Factory, Beiyi Machine Tool Factory, Jiyi Machine Tool Factory and other dozens of other machine tool factories are now causing trouble."
"They either went to the top to respond, or they called me."
"As soon as they inquired about the increase in tariffs on stamping equipment, they found out that it was our Ji Er Machine Tool Factory who proposed it."
"Then I don't know who was behind it, saying that Nanshan encouraged Ji Er to carry out this plan."
"This matter has a great impact, and I can't bear it anymore."
Zhang Sheng really didn't expect that an increase in tariffs on stamping equipment would have such a big repercussions.
He had a feeling that Schuler and Aida took this opportunity to deliberately suppress Ji Er Machine Tool Factory and Nanshan Technology Co., Ltd.
After all, there are many machine tool manufacturers in China, many of which are state-owned enterprises like Ji Er.
The combined power of these companies is huge.
There are even ways for Ji Er and Nanshan to be suppressed and punished by policies in this industry.
So Zhang Sheng couldn't stand it anymore.
"Mr. Zhang, all companies purchase CNC systems for machine tools when they have needs."
"Overall, the price increase plans of Siemens and Fanuc have not yet had much substantial impact on the industry."
"As long as we solve this problem before various companies need to purchase large quantities of CNC systems with increased prices, the situation will still be under control."
When Zeng Tingting showed Cao Yang the online reports, Cao Yang knew there was someone behind this incident.
Considering the people Nanshan has offended this year, it is very certain that Schuler and Aida were behind this.
Because later Cao Yang asked people to find out that there were a few other manufacturers of CNC systems on the market who had no intention of raising prices.
I even thought about taking this opportunity to expand the market.
In this way, the reasons mentioned in the previous price increase letters from Siemens and FANUC can be proven to be nonsense.
These two manufacturers, which have almost a monopoly on machine tool CNC systems, are making huge profits by taking advantage of their monopoly position.
Unfortunately, China does not have an anti-monopoly law yet, so even if you want to sue others, it is difficult to sue.
However, thinking of the anti-monopoly law, Cao Yang had an idea and thought he could bring it up again to scare Siemens and Fanuc.
If their behavior were conducted in the United States, they would definitely be taught a lesson by antitrust laws.
"By the way, Mr. Zhang, you should be paying attention to the antitrust issues in auto parts in the United States, right?"
“I think we can use this opportunity to once again mention the legislation of the Anti-Monopoly Law to the higher authorities.”
"Then we also launched some public opinion offensives on the Internet to let everyone know that the reason why China wants to enact the Anti-Monopoly Law is because of the price increases of Siemens and Fanuc."
Cao Yang felt that Zhang Sheng was a little entangled, and immediately came up with another way to counterattack.
Didn’t Siemens and Fanuc use the increase in stamping machine tariffs as an excuse?
There is a group of people behind the scenes who stand on the moral high ground and angrily criticize Nanshan.
It seems that Nanshan did something wrong, which caused domestic machine tool manufacturers to suffer losses.
Then I will also make Siemens and Fanuc feel uncomfortable.
Although the Anti-Monopoly Law may not be promulgated so easily in the end, this public opinion offensive is definitely enough to give them a drink.
Countless international giants who have formed de facto monopolies in China are probably going to scold Siemens and Fanuc.
Especially Siemens, which itself is involved in monopolies in some other fields.
By then, it is estimated that there will be some quarrels among various internal business units.
Let's see if the people in charge of the CNC system can live a comfortable life.
"Anti-Monopoly Law?"
"Mr. Cao, do you want to use this thing to deal with Siemens and Fanuc?"
Zhang Sheng's mood soon changed.
He didn't expect Cao Yang to come up with some new ideas so quickly.
The key is that this new idea seems to be very effective when used against Siemens and Fanuc.
"Yes, there is no Anti-Monopoly Law in China. If we push it behind the scenes, it will definitely touch the interests of many people."
“At that time, Siemens and FANUC will have to shoulder the blame.”
"They probably asked for mercy after the commotion became too big."
Cao Yang didn't think that international giants were so superior.
As long as you find the right method, Nanshan can make them uncomfortable.
"But if the Anti-Monopoly Law is really implemented, I'm afraid many of our own domestic companies will have objections."
"Strictly speaking, fields such as tobacco, telecommunications, and oil have something to do with monopoly."
As the general manager of a state-owned enterprise, Zhang Sheng considers issues much more comprehensively than Cao Yang and has many more worries.
He didn't want to become a thorn in the side of a bunch of companies again.
In that case, he wouldn't even be able to keep his position.
"Mr. Zhang, you are right."
"So the Anti-Monopoly Law should not be easily promulgated in a short period of time."
"But it does not prevent us from using this thing to deal with international giants, so that they can be unscrupulous."
"You can also reveal this meaning to me when the time comes. If you just act together in a scene, I think the difficulty will be much lower."
"Or just send out a draft of the Anti-Monopoly Law for comments."
"At that time, we will say that the differences between the parties' demands are too big and need further study, and the matter will be postponed."
Cao Yang felt Zhang Sheng's hesitation and worked for him.
At this time, he didn't want Ji'er Machine Tool Factory to be a coward.
"If it's made clear that it's just for show, then you can still give it a try."
"Other companies won't have much reaction if they find out."
"But the most critical problem now is that the price of CNC systems has increased too much."
"Even if we bring about the Anti-Monopoly Law, it may not be reduced in a short time."
"We have to find a way to solve this problem."
What Zhang Sheng is most concerned about now is the price increase of CNC systems.
Ji Er has a lot of equipment to purchase from Siemens and Fanuc.
If this price doesn't come down quickly, life will be difficult.
"Mr. Zhang, regarding the CNC system, I have an alternative for everyone to use."
"Nanshan's presses now use their own CNC systems, instead of purchasing them from Siemens and FANUC."
"In order to prevent everyone from being squeezed by Siemens and Fanuc, Nanshan is willing to sell the CNC system that has been exclusively studied for nearly ten years."
"The price will remain the same as before the price increases of Siemens and Fanuc."
When Cao Yang said this, Zhang Sheng was stunned.
Nanshan Technology Co., Ltd. only has a history of about ten years, right?
Where do you get the CNC system that has been exclusively studied for nearly ten years?
Before, he really didn't know that Nanshan's presses all used their own CNC systems. He thought they bought them from Siemens or FANUC like everyone else.
This situation is a bit surprising.
"Mr. Cao, your press uses a CNC system developed by yourself?"
Zhang Sheng couldn't help but confirm again.
This matter is really inconsistent with his knowledge.
"Yes."
"In terms of CNC systems, Nanshan has not only conducted research on its own for many years, but has also established joint research projects with Huaqing University, Lingnan University of Technology and other universities."
“In the future, we will strive to achieve localization of all control-related parts.”
"If Mr. Zhang has any questions, you can come to Nanshan to visit the site and see how our CNC system is installed on each press."
When Cao Yang said this, although Zhang Sheng still had many questions in his mind, he believed that Nanshan really researched CNC systems on his own.
In particular, Cao Yang also dragged Huaqing University and Lingnan Ligong University into it.
This makes the story seem more real.
If he knew that the cooperation between Nanshan and these two institutes had just begun, new questions would probably arise.
"Siemens and Fanuc make a wide range of CNC systems, with various models."
"Even if Nanshan can meet the needs of CNC systems for stamping equipment, there is no way to meet the needs of other machine tools, right?"
Zhang Sheng raised a new question.
In his view, the most critical thing now is to make cheap CNC systems available to the majority of machine tool companies.
Otherwise, this matter would not have been resolved so smoothly.
"Nanshan definitely doesn't have as many varieties as they do."
"We have to admit that."
"But we don't only have CNC systems for stamping equipment. We also have some CNC systems for milling machines, grinders, and boring machines."
Cao Yang was not so full of words.
It would be weird if Nanshan had everything.
"However, don't you think that as long as Nanshan can take part of it, that will be enough?"
"When Siemens and Fanuc see this scene, will they continue to sell CNC systems at high prices?"
"Aren't they afraid that all the Chinese markets will be swallowed up by Nanshan?"
When Cao Yang asked this question, Zhang Sheng was stunned for a moment.
If Nanshan's strength is really that strong, then it won't be long before Siemens and FANUC withdraw their price increase letters, right?
What reason will they find for lowering prices then?
Is the chip issue solved?
"Mr. Zhang, are you sure what you just said was not a joke?"
"If this disappoints all the machine tool companies again, things will be really serious."
Zhang Sheng, who felt a little relieved, felt that this matter needed to be confirmed again.
He was even ready to lead a team to Nanshan himself.
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