Rebirth: My 80s

Chapter 866 Bet on each other’s dignity (page 12)

Watts scanned the entire audience, his gaze lingering on the face of the crazy-looking optical expert for a while.

"Sir, the 193nm ArF laser light source cannot be extended to 65nm. But, did I mention that Ames uses this kind of light source?"

"I'll just tell you." The optical expert patted his chest wildly and let out a long sigh.

It seems that if Ames really uses the 193nm ArF laser light source and extends it to the 65nm technology node, his scientific outlook will collapse.

Sure enough, Chen Chunxian thought.

Ames discovered a brand new technology.

As a scientific research madman, this made him think deeply on such an occasion:

What kind of new technology is it?

The 193nm ArF laser light source is an idea provided by Jiankun. He has always believed that it is the only answer to the light source problem of the fourth-generation lithography machine.

Now it seems that is obviously not the case.

Without abandoning the 193nm ArF laser light source and finding new methods, it will be impossible for Chinese Silicon Valley companies to catch up with Ames in terms of lithography machine technology.

With this thought, Chen Chunxian just wanted to get into the laboratory right away...

"Mr. Watts, can you tell us what kind of light source Ames is using now?" the optical expert asked.

He was very curious about this.

In fact, almost everyone there wanted to know the answer.

Chen Chunxian pricked up his ears. I don’t really want to steal my lesson, but if someone insists on saying it... why doesn’t he listen?

Watts looked at the optical expert who asked the question and smiled without saying a word.

"Mr. Watts, the lithography machine is an extremely complex fusion of multiple disciplines. What impact does it have just to reveal such information?

“In my institution, the technology level of photolithography machines is still in the third generation.

"So you see, even if I know that the fourth-generation lithography machine will use 193nm ArF laser light source, our institution still cannot develop the fourth-generation lithography machine in a short time."

The optical expert said with a hint of pleading.

Everyone at the scene nodded frequently, and many people spoke in agreement.

Facing the expectant eyes of the crowd, Watts behaved like a gentleman, bowed slightly and apologized, saying:

"It's not that we don't want to tell you, it's just that it may not be the optimal light source solution for the future development of lithography machines. In fact, during the research process, we have discovered many problems. It may be applicable at this stage, but it will be difficult in the future. , I’m afraid of leading everyone astray.”

Call——

There are people who are not afraid of offending Ames and just boo him.

This is obviously just because I don't want to say it, and it's just an excuse.

At this moment, another voice sounded from the auditorium speakers.

"That's quite the truth."

Watts turned his head: "??"

Suddenly started to speak for him...what's the situation.

Many people at the scene also asked black people with foreheads. They were bloody just now, but now they seem to have become good friends again.

At this time, there was only one person except Watts whose sound could be spread to the entire audience through the microphone.

There were only two of them poking at the podium.

The eyes of everyone in the audience instantly focused on Li Jiankun.

"What's wrong?" Li Jiankun looked around the auditorium and said with a smile, "He's right. Of course I agree. As he said, the light source technology they are using now is indeed astray..."

"You fart!"

Watts cursed angrily. After he finished scolding, he noticed that everyone looked at him strangely, so he smiled mischievously: "I want to say, have you ever seen students with poor grades tutoring students with good grades? In any case, he None of them are qualified to evaluate our technology.

“He doesn’t even know what our light source technology is, so how dare he make rash comments?

"Everyone is right."

Before everyone at the scene could react, Li Jiankun's voice came from the auditorium speakers:

"Is it necessary to hide it? It's not unfair to say that you have a small belly. Isn't it just a 157nm deep purple light source?"

Watts: "!!!"

Several people from Ames Company in the audience: "!!!"

Just looking at their expressions, everyone at the scene also came up with the answer: it is this kind of light source that Ames is currently using on its fourth-generation lithography machine.

The optical expert's eyes suddenly lit up and he shouted to the staff of the Association for Science and Technology: "Is there a small blackboard? Pen and paper, pen and paper will do, please give me pen and paper!"

The staff presented pen and paper.

rustling...

Optical experts immediately began to calculate.

To be honest, Li Jiankun wanted to poach him, if he could figure it out this way.

"Haha! It's fun! I feel like it's fun!"

The optical expert's hand holding the pen showed an afterimage, and he was laughing while doing calculations.

Wu Cao is really a super boss... Li Jiankun licked the corners of his lips.

"You think our company doesn't know?" He looked sideways.

Watts: "..."

Chen Chunxian and several researchers looked at each other, but anyway... they didn't know.

But if Jiankun knew about it, there seems to be nothing wrong with saying so.

The question is...how did he know it again?

Are you confused this time too?

Chen Chunxian thought to himself that if Jiankun couldn't give a reasonable explanation this time, he would cut a slice from Jiankun's body to test whether he was an alien.

"This is not a secret at all. The reason why we do not use 157nm light source is, as you said, a misunderstanding." Li Jiankun said.

"This...this is impossible." Watts' tongue curled up a bit.

"Let me ask you, do you encounter unprecedented challenges in the lens when using the 157nm light source?" Li Jiankun glanced at him.

Watts: "!!!"

In the audience, one of his teammates had his chin slightly open.

This person is from the German Zeiss company, which mainly supplies AMES’s lithography machine lenses.

So he knew nothing about it.

Not long ago, Ames Corporation commissioned them to manufacture a lens that can be used for subsequent research on 157nm deep violet light source. However, they were unable to manufacture it.

If even they can't create it, no one on earth can create it right now.

It can be said that as long as the lens problem cannot be solved, the research direction of 157nm light source will be a dead end.

"Everyone, please stop thinking nonsense."

Li Jiankun's eyes fell on Lao Chen and took a deep look at him: "Using the 157nm light source can indeed push the minimum process of the photolithography machine to 65nm. However, this research direction has ridiculously high requirements for lenses.

“Let me say something that may be a bit depressing: We don’t have that kind of optical lens technology on earth now, and we won’t have it in a short time.

"Drill in this direction, and there's a high chance that you're going to get hit by something crazy."

In the past life, scientists studying lithography machines around the world have been working in the direction of 157nm light sources for nearly two decades.

No research results have been produced yet.

Li Jiankun knows the history of the development of lithography machines, and he is naturally aware of the biggest obstacle in the history of lithography machines.

The optical expert put down the Hero pen, stopped calculating, looked confused, and asked for advice: "Mr. Li, in this case, what light source do you think should be used to continue research on the fourth-generation lithography machine?"

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