"At the same time, we cannot adopt a tolerant attitude towards everything. The soybean war is a lesson for us."

"What Professor Zhao said just now, the so-called international market rules are all made by others, and their original intention is to reap other countries. I have always disdained such terms."

Dismissive?

Zhao Lin said in a deep voice: "Comrade Xiao Liu, we are doing academic discussions, we can't speak nonsense casually. If you do business with others outside the framework of rules, you will be isolated by the market. Without rules, there will be no order. This is the truth in international politics and international economics. If you look down on others, how can others respect you?"

Liu Fusheng smiled and said, "The interests of the country and the people are above all else. The rules we respect must be based on the benefits of the country and the people. We must never agree to clauses that are humiliating to the country. If someone wants to make irresponsible remarks about our internal affairs, we will definitely fight them to the end."

Zhao Lin curled his lips and said, "What you said is just high-sounding words. The theory is correct, but in practice, it simply won't work."

Liu Fusheng said seriously, "On the practical level? Professor Zhao, if we really followed the so-called international rules at the end of the last century, the financial crisis that swept across Asia would have caused our national property to be completely destroyed. We would have been like those small and weak countries in Southeast Asia, returning to the past decades overnight. Even Hong Kong would have been reduced to ashes and would no longer be a world financial center."

"The country chose to rise up and fight, and with all its might, it won the financial war. Now Professor Zhao and everyone here have the leisure to sit down and discuss whether to fight or compromise!"

"If you don't have the strength to fight, the enemy won't even give you a chance to compromise. Only those who fight can be respected."

Zhao Lin never expected that Liu Fusheng had such a big vision that he directly denied the rules of the WTO. This was tantamount to cutting off the source of his trouble, making him lose an important theoretical basis.

Zhao Lin said angrily, "Little comrade, you are making up stories. Do you know how important it is for our country to join the WTO and integrate into the world financial market? You actually want to ignore the rules of the WTO. This is simply unreasonable."

Liu Fusheng smiled and said, "Professor Zhao, I never said that we should ignore the rules. I just asked that the rules must be based on fairness and justice. If the rules are not equal, what is the point of us abiding by them?"

Zhao Lin said angrily: "So far, the operations of international grain traders have been based on equality and are all allowed by the rules and framework. Where is it unfair?"

Liu Fusheng nodded, and under his guidance, Zhao Lin finally fell into his rhythm.

What Liu Fusheng needs to do is to discuss the fairness of the rules with Zhao Lin.

Because he is an outsider, even with the information provided by Professor Wang, he cannot compare with professors and scholars like Zhao Lin who have been researching for many years in the professional field.

Since it is a debate, you must make your point clear and then play to your strengths.

Only by leveraging your strengths and avoiding your weaknesses can you achieve the desired results to the greatest extent possible.

Poor Zhao Lin was led astray by Liu Fusheng and almost forgot that the other party was just a government official, not a professional scholar.

After Zhao Lin raised the issue of rules, Liu Fusheng did not give him a chance to think, and immediately followed up with: "Professor Zhao, the current WTO framework is that Western countries are bullying others by taking advantage of their power. When they were making the rules, we had no participation, so how can we talk about fairness and justice?"

Zhao Lin frowned and said, "What does this have to do with whether our country is involved or not?"

Liu Fusheng said: "Of course it is related. Those who make the rules are the beneficiaries of the rules. This is an iron law that has never changed. Western capitalist countries uphold the principle of profit first. They do not want world peace. Otherwise, how could they make groundless accusations and even sanctions against our country in terms of military, politics, science and technology?"

"For those who make WTO rules, if a country has strong productivity, they will dump its products on it or raise import tariffs to curb the development of the relevant country. On the contrary, when they dump their products on other countries, they do not need to abide by the corresponding rules."

"Once a country dares to take countermeasures such as tariffs against those who set the rules, they will jointly sanction that country under the banner of the WTO. This situation is by no means isolated and can even be said to be common. Is this fair?"

Liu Fusheng's questioning made Zhao Lin fall into a brief silence. He never thought that the other party was quite familiar with information related to the WTO.

Zhao Lin thought for a moment and said, "Little comrade, you only know one thing, but not the other. The biggest role of the WTO is regulation. Its purpose is to prevent a single company from dominating the market. As for the situation you mentioned, it does exist, but overall the benefits outweigh the disadvantages."

"I admit that some economically developed countries have certain advantages in the WTO, but advantages and weights do not mean that the WTO is unfair. Otherwise, our country would not have such a strong desire to join this organization. Do you think that the country's decision is wrong?"

Liu Fusheng shook his head and grabbed the microphone and said, "Professor Zhao is obviously changing the concept. The reason why our country joined the WTO was not because the organization was fair enough, but because of the international environment at that time. Western countries dominated the world, and we were in urgent need of economic development. Therefore, we had to integrate into the big market, even if it cost a certain price. This must be implemented."

"Everyone knows what my country has gone through since joining the WTO. In addition to the soybean war that I have mentioned time and again, the country has also been constrained and suppressed in other areas. This is because some countries with ulterior motives are trying to turn my country into a cheap labor-intensive industrial base, so that we can only produce and process low-end goods... This is absolutely not in the interests of our country."

"Our joining the WTO does not mean that we accept the fate of being slaughtered by others. Professor Zhao asked me if I understand the current market environment and the rules of the game. I can tell you clearly that I understand the rules, and I think the next step for the country is to make those with ulterior motives return home empty-handed within the framework of the rules."

Liu Fusheng spoke eloquently and with great vigor.

Zhao Lin felt a little bit of a toothache. This Liu Fusheng was very organized and managed to make everything work out.

If he continued to dwell on the WTO rules, he would easily be at a disadvantage. So Zhao Lin immediately changed his strategy and said, "Comrade Xiao Liu, there is some truth in what you said, but you should know the influence of the four major international grain traders, right? They are not buying grain from our country, but are doing so all over the world. So, they are not targeting us, and they don't have any ulterior motives."

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