Back to the Song Dynasty as a tyrant

Sun Fu said: "According to His Royal Highness King Liao's thinking, if you want to have no corrupt officials, you only need to separate the officials from the businessmen?"

Chapter 1306 Middle Earth and Overseas (Third Change)

"Officials and businessmen are separated, officials can't control businessmen, and businessmen don't have to bribe officials anymore." Zhao Chen said, "Businessmen need strict supervision, and a special government office to supervise businessmen should be established. If businessmen dare to overstep, they will be severely punished!"

"Wouldn't it be biased to extend another problem before one problem is resolved?" Sun Fu's tone was rather sharp. Effective supervision, how to ensure that the government office of supervision will not be the same as the current officials? If there is no guarantee, how is it different from now?"

Zhao Chen said: "At least at the administrative level, we can cut off the contacts between officials and businessmen, and don't let money flow through the hands of local officials."

Hearing this, Zhao Ning was even more interested.

Zhao Chen's thinking was beyond his expectation.

Obviously, Zhao Chen was influenced by Cai Mao's conservative thinking.

This is a form of petty government.

It is somewhat similar to some thoughts in Huang-Lao Taoism.

Govern by doing nothing, rather than mobilizing a huge bureaucratic system to forcibly interfere with the operation of the country.

Can you say this is bullshit?

Anyone who says this kind of thinking is nonsense is denying the achievements of Wenjing's governance.

It can only be said that there is no absolute right or wrong in the policy of governing the country, only adapting measures to local conditions.

Such a huge empire with a population of more than [-] million and a territory stretching across thousands of miles, who can guarantee that they can eat all over the world with one trick?

When faced with a powerful enemy, Mount Tai, use thunder to centralize power and resources to fight against foreign enemies and save the building from falling.

But when the external enemies are relatively weakened, the region expands infinitely, the social structure becomes more diversified, and the industrial structure becomes more complicated?

Could it be that blindly collecting power and concentrating resources can lead a great empire of thousands of miles?

The adjustment of the system and the renewal of the national policy are always considered in advance by the emperor.

Of course, this does not mean that Zhao Ning approved Zhao Chen's statement or denied Zhao Chen's statement.

Sun Fu added: "If according to what His Royal Highness King Liao said, to isolate officials from administrative dominance of commerce, how can the imperial court lead the development of people's livelihood in the world?"

"Why must the imperial court firmly dominate the development of people's livelihood in the world?" Zhao Chen asked rhetorically, and he became a little excited.

Zhao Chen has an obvious military style, strong and courageous.

Perhaps as Cai Mao said, the army is different from the court.

But don't forget, he is the eldest son of the emperor, his power in the court is different from that of other courtiers in the court.

The standard for testing the crown prince has never been that the crown prince has to be modest.

Moreover, Zhao Ning could tolerate Zhao Chen's dominance at this time, because he felt that Zhao Chen's thinking at least had no contradictions of cause and effect, and his thinking was very clear.

He has always valued a person's way of thinking.

Anyone makes mistakes, and it's okay to make mistakes, but if there is a problem with the way of thinking, even if you make a big thing, it's luck.

Sun Fu's eyes widened, as if he felt that he had heard wrongly. Sun Fu was a very serious person, a very hard-headed person.

He didn't give Zhao Chen a good face on the spot, he said: "Is Your Highness going to hand over the world to those businessmen who can do anything for profit?"

"As I said just now, the court set up a government office to supervise merchants!"

"Absurd! It's ridiculous!" Sun Fu's taunting mode was filled instantly, "What kind of medicine did His Royal Highness take wrongly, thinking that the imperial court only needs to set up a special supervision office to control businessmen?"

"Sun Fu, how dare you speak to His Highness Liao Wang in such a tone!" Li Kuan, the official doctor, scolded.

Obviously, this person is Zhao Chen's first dog leg after entering the bureaucracy.

"Why, the truth is that you can't win, so you start to use your status to suppress people?" Sun Fu glanced at Li Kuan coldly, without giving in at all, "I am the Minister of the Ministry of Rites, and the King of Liao is now the Minister of the Ministry of Officials, and I am the same official. For officials of the same level, is it possible that this official will allow him to discuss matters in the court?"

"you……"

"What are you! Before the emperor, when discussing national affairs, state affairs should be the most important thing, not blood first!"

Sun Fu sent Li Kuan back with a few words.

Sun Fu continued: "From what I heard, His Royal Highness King Liao wants to hand over his ancestors, the country, to those businessmen who are ungrateful for profit?"

Sun Fu's last words dealt a great political blow to King Liao.

The hall fell into dead silence for an instant.

This is undoubtedly the most sensitive place.

At this time, Zhao Ding, who had been interrupted by Zhao Chen just now, stood up and said, "What Sun Shilang said is reasonable, but what His Royal Highness King Liao said may not be wrong."

When Zhao Ding said this, everyone couldn't help being surprised.

Is Zhao Ding trying to protect King Liao?

King Liao was quite rude to him just now.

Sun Fu said: "The lower officials are dull, please enlighten me."

Sun Fu was still very afraid of Zhao Ding. Sun Fu's character was like a fierce fire, while Zhao Ding's character was as soft as water, like a pool of clear spring water.

No matter how fierce the fire is, if it is thrown into this pool of spring water, it will be extinguished.

For the same reason, this is why Zhao Ning admires Zhao Ding so much.

Zhao Ding's public heart lies in: water benefits all things without fighting.

Zhao Ding said: "Sun Shilang believes that the imperial court should control the development of people's livelihood, and the administration should guide the bank's currency flow. This is no problem. This also follows His Majesty's "General Theory of Money". If you want to promote the development of local people's livelihood by controlling the flow of money in banks like the various roads in China, it will be difficult to complete."

Sun Fu froze all of a sudden.

Zhao Ding continued: "His Royal Highness Liao Wang's starting point is that many officials from all over the country took advantage of this corruption, so he proposed to separate officials from businessmen. The original intention of this proposal is good, and it is also beneficial to the people."

Zhao Ding didn't say anything later, because he couldn't say anything.

Even if it is correct, it cannot be said.

What are the words that make the prime minister afraid?

What is the content?

Many people were still waiting for Zhao Ding to continue, but Zhao Ding remained silent.

Of course, several people present heard what Zhao Ding didn't say.

Zhao Ning's eyes shone with brilliance, and he was very happy to have someone like Zhao Ding who had such a clear understanding of the general situation in the Song Dynasty.

At this time, Cai Mao, who had been standing beside him as if he was about to fall asleep, stood up and said, "Your Majesty, I feel that His Highness King Liao's strategy may not be applicable in China, but it is very applicable in South China Sea."

Finally, back to Nanhai, Cai Mao stood there with his eyes squinted, he was clearly talking, but he looked like he was sleepwalking.

But if you really think he's sleepwalking, you're dead wrong.

As soon as Cai Mao brought up this point of view, everyone's eyes immediately brightened.

Cai Mao continued: "The commerce in the South China Sea is getting more and more connected with China and China. The business in the South China Sea is prosperous, which is related to China and China. However, the administration of the imperial court cannot effectively control the South China Sea, but they don't want the South China Sea to have strong local bureaucrats and force. Why not let it Located in the businessmen, after all, businessmen are doing business, they only want money, not power."

When Sun Fu heard this, he jumped out again.

Chapter 1307 Primitive Capitalist Expansion (Part [-])

Sun Fu said: "It's nonsense. Cai Xianggong's thinking will only make the South China Sea merchants bigger. They even dare to forge cannons privately. Do you think they will only do business obediently?"

"According to Sun Shilang's idea, implement the same management on South China Sea as Jingji Road?" Cai Mao said lightly, "Appointing officials in the South China Sea countries, from the chief envoy to the magistrate to the county magistrate, does Sun Shilang think so? "

"Is it necessary to set up another bank in Lingyamen, and transport the banknotes printed by the capital to Lingyamen?" Cai Mao continued to ask.

"Officials in the South China Sea regularly report to the imperial court on the governance of the South China Sea. Does the imperial court have a business policy to support Ma Yi or Luni?"

"If this is the case, it takes half a year to go from Mayi to the capital, and it takes half a year or even a year to go to Luni. How do you know how much money the officials have plundered from the local people?"

Sun Fu was speechless for a moment.

But Cai Mao didn't seem to have any intention of stopping. He continued, "If a large number of officials are sent to forcefully control and dominate the place like Zhongtu, Sun Shilang can guarantee that no official will secretly buy people's hearts and gather people to fight against the court?"

"This……"

"Don't forget, businessmen are the people, and the people have no power and are not righteous. Compared with officials who have the power to dispose of huge resources, it is illegal for businessmen to form force, but officials have part of their own force."

"Even in a small county in the Song Dynasty, there were dozens of yamen. How many yamen did Sun Shilang plan to assign to a county magistrate in Luni, thousands of miles away? And how to ensure that the magistrate did not use the name of the government to secretly recruit personal force ?”

A series of questions from Cai Mao left Fu Sun speechless.

At this stage of the discussion, Zhao Ning felt that the external institutional cognition of the Song Dynasty had basically begun to gradually converge.

For a person in the 21st century, he has seen the evolution of many systems and doctrines in human history.

Especially in the era of territorial expansion or the rise of powerful countries.

That is nothing more than some distinctions between primitive capitalism, state capitalism, and free capitalism.

Of course, there are also some more personalized idiosyncrasies.

Either way is evolved under the times.

The factors driving this evolution are complex and, relative to the individual, time-consuming.

If you just read these from books without experiencing the changes of individuals in the micro-economy under the macro-economy, it is easy to have a thinking mode that can be applied.

If it were useful, human history would not be accompanied by so much turmoil.

For someone like Zhao Ning who worked as a venture fund in his previous life, world history, investment, debt, external threats, internal economic structure, and economic cycles are compulsory courses.

Ordinary people look at history to see plots and wars, as well as those heroes who are praised.

But people like him look at productivity, economics, ideology, currency, debt.

Cai Mao's thinking is typical of primitive capitalism, that is, individual capitalism.

This is the most primitive form of capitalism, that is, expansion and accumulation without any restrictions.

If there is power interference at this stage, it will seriously affect the expansion of capital.

For example, in the Ming Dynasty’s voyages to the West, if the power did not interfere, there might be a large number of commercial exports overseas, and the rapid accumulation of primitive wealth.

When individual capitalism expands to a certain extent, monopoly capitalism will appear.

That is what Sun Fu mentioned, once businessmen become rich, they will use artillery.

However, Sun Fu is an ancient man after all, and he is not clear about the follow-up explanation of monopoly capitalism.

When monopoly capitalism reaches a certain point, armed forces will appear, using force and the power of capital to safeguard their own interests and increase value, and to suppress new opponents that may appear.

The next stage of monopoly capitalism is liberal capitalism.

Although free capitalism carries the word freedom, it does not mean that capital can do whatever it wants.

The biggest similarity between personal capitalism and free capitalism is that there is no monopoly, but the biggest difference is that personal capitalism is still accumulating primitive capital and wants to monopolize but has no strength of its own.

Businessmen in free capitalism have the power to monopolize, but the implementation of the monopoly law has made it impossible for them to monopolize.

The most typical example is that Rockefeller's oil empire was forcibly dismantled.

As for state capitalism, it is actually what Sun Fu just mentioned, where the imperial court controls commerce.

So is the current implementation of the Song Dynasty state capitalism?

No!

Although the imperial court has planning and leadership over local economic development, what the Song Dynasty is currently implementing is not state capitalism.

The most typical state capitalism is that the state directly controls the operation of commercial companies, but at present the Song Dynasty only controls a part of the important strategic material operation.

Such as iron ore mining, cement manufacturing, gunpowder manufacturing and so on.

Most of the industries are still operated by private businessmen.

Even many prohibitions in the Song Dynasty, such as salt making and wine making, have been abolished by Zhao Ning and delegated to the people.

The government controls the flow of money, blood transfusions to private businesses, and at the same time controls major policies.

However, Quanzhou merchants smuggled artillery and Nanhai merchants privately cast artillery. These uncontrollable factors obviously had an impact on the thinking of some scholar-bureaucrats in the Song Dynasty, and touched their sensitive nerves.

The specific impact of the consequences is to continue to take power, the imperial court strengthens its control over commerce, and prevents merchants from causing chaos.

Of course, there is also more complicated corruption caused by government-business collusion.

This led to the debate between the two factions in the imperial court today.

Generally speaking, Zhao Ning's own thinking is very clear.

But it is useless for him alone, because governing the country requires the assistance of these ministers on site, and getting them to reach an agreement is the most important thing.