Even though he already guessed the answer in his heart, when he heard the answer with his own ears, Gu Xiu still felt extremely shocked.
Even subconsciously want to be in awe.
Liang Sining didn't know what Gu Xiu was thinking, so he sighed:
"How can there be such a good thing in the world."
"Many times, no matter how much you pay and sacrifice, you still can't change the overall situation in the end."
"Otherwise, our country would already be number one in the world."
"Usually, there is no such opportunity, but this time, it is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." Gu Xiu shook his head and smiled.
"Opportunity?" Liang Sining's eyes lit up, and he regained his energy: "What opportunity?"
"Mr. Liang, you go to Holland."
what?
Liang Sining was surprised: "What does this have to do with my going to the Netherlands?"
"Of course." Gu Xiu said:
"Sister Liang Ling's company, ASML, is a good semiconductor company in itself, and it is not yet controlled by capital, let alone politically involved."
"And correspondingly."
"Their technology, their talent, even their products."
"It's what we need most!"
"That's what you said, what does that have to do with me?" Liang Sining wondered, guessing that Gu Xiu probably didn't understand, thought for a moment and said:
"If you want to ask me to buy a lithography machine and come back for our research and study, this road is basically impossible."
"At the end of the last century, in order to curb our development of high-tech, overseas powers came up with a Wassenaar Agreement."
"The impact of this agreement is huge."
"Because this agreement is targeting our country everywhere, including technology sharing and equipment procurement, all of which have blocked our country."
"As for things like lithography machines, all we can purchase are outdated products that have been iterated for many years. As for the most advanced products, we have no chance to get them at all."
"Because this is not something that can be decided by one person or a company, but a game between countries, and even this is not something that the Netherlands can decide on its own."
"So, even if Liang Ling works in that company, it's impossible for him to bring us a lithography machine."
His daughter works in such a company, if given the opportunity, Liang Sining would have already thought of a way.
But after all these years he found out.
This path is simply impossible.
But what surprised Liang Sining was that he had spoken so clearly, but the expression on Gu Xiu's face remained calm.
Instead, he smiled:
"Since you can't buy happy products, buy ASML, which produces happy products."
"It's okay if you don't?"
Chapter 404
Buy ASML?
When hearing Gu Xiu's words, Liang Sining's first emotion was astonishment, the second emotion was shock, and the third emotion was...
disappointment.
"You are still young, many things are actually not as simple as you think."
Liang Sining sighed.
The excitement and curiosity before turned into helplessness and loneliness at this moment.
Gu Xiu is very smart.
But it's just a child after all.
Thoughts are too simple.
Even though he thought so in his heart, Liang Sining was serious and explained to Gu Xiu:
"The other party won't even sell their products to us, so how could they sell their company to us?"
"This is simply impossible. As long as the other party reviews the qualifications, they will immediately reject us."
"Even if you really agree..."
"To be honest, the final result will not be too good. After all, ASML is a company, not a pure research and development institution."
"They need more than just research and development."
"It is necessary to ensure the normal operation of the company. It is possible to agree to the acquisition by our country, but after that, the whole world will attack ASML, and this company will have no future from now on."
"Perhaps you will think that ASML's products can be sold domestically."
"But let's be honest."
"The country can't eat it, and it can't support it."
"Based on the balance of these opponents, it is impossible for us to buy ASML."
This principle has been said to be easy to understand.
In fact, many people have already thought about all the possibilities in the semiconductor industry.
But the final result is only one.
No way!
It is simply impossible to rely on external forces. The only opportunity in China is to bring back high-level talents who have studied abroad.
Lead domestic development in this area.
As for doing your own research?
can.
But the difficulty is too great.
It is even a bit similar to building a car behind closed doors, and not only because of the slow technological progress, but also because there will be a huge amount of money burning in it.
after all.
You spend countless real money to produce products, but it is only the technology of overseas powers ten years ago.
Can the products produced under such circumstances be sold to make money?
Since you can't make money.
That means that these research funds are being burned in vain.
And the further you go, the more money you burn.
And because of the slow start, there is little hope of catching up. No matter how you look at it, from any angle, it is a bottomless pit that burns money but has no return.
If the country has money and can burn it unscrupulously, of course there is no problem.
but……
The country has no money!
In other words, the country has too many places to spend money, and it is impossible to spend decades and invest a lot of resources to pursue a project that is not particularly important, at least for now.
have that money.
Isn't military development more fragrant than this?
This is the most helpless problem in the semiconductor field. Everyone knows it is important, but it is impossible to spend money without limit to make a big deal.
"So, it's impossible to buy a machine, let alone a company."
"It's simply not realistic."
"The existence of Wassenaar, especially the existence of the dominant country, has made many Western companies engaged in this area, even if they choose to go bankrupt, they are unwilling to choose to sell themselves to us."
"I don't know if those people who advocate science without borders every day have shit in their heads. They really think that science has no borders."
Tan Liangzhe sighed, a little hated that iron could not be made into steel.
He didn't know if he was angry with the country, or with himself, or because Gu Xiu didn't even understand such a simple truth.
Can face these words.
Gu Xiu was still smiling.
It's like, I didn't understand.
Liang Sining frowned, and was about to explain more carefully when Gu Xiu said:
"Ms. Liang, my elementary school teacher told me that there are no eternal enemies or eternal friends in this world."
"We are weak, so they can squeeze and bully at will. We have technical shortcomings, so they tighten their pockets desperately."
"Limit our development."
"Even if we buy it with money, we have no chance to buy it. Even if those companies want to make money, they don't dare to make this money."
"And to put it bluntly, it's all because we are still very weak."
"but……"
"If we are on the same track as them, we are qualified to sit at the same table with them to negotiate?"
"What will happen then?"
This……
Liang Sining was dumbfounded.
What Gu Xiu said was indeed simple.
If the current domestic semiconductor field has caught up to the top in the world, it doesn't even need to be at the top level, it just needs to reach the same level.
That is equivalent to sitting at the same table.
Naturally, in this regard, the Wassenaar Agreement naturally has no way to exclude the country.
After all, both sides are giants alike.
What the opponent wants to do is to learn the strength and experience of the giants around him, and then wait for an opportunity to surpass the opponent. It is definitely not to shut the opponent out directly.
but……
"But we are not qualified to sit at the same table with each other." Liang Sining sighed:
"Compared with overseas countries, the current domestic semiconductor field is not as simple as 01:30."
"A gap of at least eight years!"
"If you want to catch up, even if you are fully committed now, it will take at least ten or eight years."
"But in ten or eight years, the opponent is still improving."
"so."
"This number is just the beginning."
"It's impossible for us to catch up."
Ten or eight years?
When Gu Xiu heard this, he felt a burst of emotion in his heart.
The reason why this number can be obtained is obviously because Mr. Liang counted the current domestic measures to encourage research and development in this area, so he can come to this conclusion.
but in fact……
It is true that there are only ten or eight years left now, and what is missing in the future is 20 or 30 years!
and.
widen the gap again.
Will be a liar who is about to return home!
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