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Zhang Yan looked at Song Hao and said, "Brother Song, is this the person you brought out? Li Shan is the same as you back then. But I'm curious, how hard did you scare Li Shan back then? It's all branded Sick, bully newcomers one by one."

Song Hao said helplessly to Zhang Yan: "It's not my fault. When Li Shan first came here, I didn't intentionally scare him. It was because he was too sensitive and thought too much. I didn't mean it. He and I don't agree. Same, every time he deliberately leads in that direction, and deliberately creates that kind of atmosphere through actions, tone, and demeanor, he does it on purpose, how can I be like him."

Then Song Hao turned to Li Shan, wanting to say something, but he still didn't say anything, and just sighed helplessly.

The two traders on one side looked at each other and couldn't help shaking their heads and smiling bitterly. They were also old employees of the company, so they naturally knew that Li Shan had such a habit.

Niu Lei turned his head to look at the meeting room where Chen Yi was, and couldn't help but forced a smile. He could only pray in his heart for this little colleague whom he thought was pretty good, and hoped that he was okay.

The farce passed quickly, and it was not the first time, so everyone was no stranger to it.

Li Shan drank some water and waited for a while.Looking at the time, it is estimated that Chen Yi has calmed down and digested his words before walking towards the conference room again.

Chen Yi in the meeting room was just as Li Shan said, with a strong mental capacity.Not long after Li Shan left, Chen Yi, who had figured everything out, calmed down.

Chen Yi is not stupid, but very smart. Before, he was too nervous and panic dominated his judgment. Now that he knows that things are not as he thought, Chen Yi calmed down and thought about it carefully. His thoughts and behavior were ridiculous. Thinking about his thoughts and demeanor just now, Chen Yi laughed at himself, and said to himself: "It's really embarrassing." After speaking, he shook his head helplessly.

After calming down, Chen Yi carefully thought about Li Shan's words just now.

In fact, he has some understanding of value investing before, but it is only a few words or some trivial opinions.No one has ever sorted out these things like Li Shan and told him.

Although what Li Shan said in the process just now was not much and not detailed, it is a system and a framework.Li Shan built a skeleton for Chen Yi, after which Chen Yi only needed to add more flesh and blood to it.

To know any knowledge system, it is very difficult to sort out a framework. You need to have a certain understanding of this system and a certain depth.Li Shan undoubtedly saved Chen Yi a lot of time and made Chen Yi's future growth smoother.

I want to understand that Chen Yi is full of gratitude to Li Shan and trusts in Ruiming Investment as a whole. This company is simply great. Every member is so good and they help each other. alright.

Thinking about it, a smile appeared on the corner of Chen Yi's mouth. He was very glad that he could join such a company.Just then the door opened, and Li Shan walked in.It was Chen Yi's face full of smiles that greeted Li Shan. Li Shan also smiled when he looked at Chen Yi. He knew what he just said, and Chen Yi listened to it, and he also had a certain understanding. His goal was achieved.Li Shan and Chen Yi smiled at each other.Li Shan walked back to the chair opposite Chen Yi and sat down again.

Li Shan smiled and said, "Think clearly, do you understand what you just said?"

Chen Yi smiled and nodded, "Yes, I understand, thank you Brother Li."

Li Shan waved his hand and said, "Thank you, didn't I tell you a long time ago that you don't need to be so rude."

Chen Yi also smiled when he heard the words, he knew that Li Shan said so, Li Shan could not mind his thanks, but he had to express his gratitude, after all, others are not obliged to tell him these things, it is Li Shan's duty not to tell him, tell him He is affectionate, so even if Li Shan said so, he will still thank him very gratefully next time.

Chen Yi understood the framework of value investing that Li Shan said before. He also had a certain understanding of investment before, and he had also read some books and articles by big names.

Although a system architecture has not been formed before, it still has a certain foundation.But Chen Yi felt that some of the things he knew before were not included in the value investment that Li Shan just talked about. He thought that since Li Shan had time to talk to him today, it would also help him improve, so he asked the question. , so as not to ask in the future, in case Li Shan runs out of time, it would be embarrassing.

It is Chen Yi's style to think clearly and do it without delay.So Chen Yi asked, "Brother Li, I still want to ask you some questions."

Li Shan asked with great interest, "What's the question?" He was also very curious, and wanted to know what kind of questions Chen Yi would ask.

Chen Yi pondered for a moment and organized his language to ask: "Brother Li, I have also learned about investment before, and I have also read many famous investment experts or popular books and articles on the market."

Li Shan nodded when he heard the words and thought: "It's not bad. I know to take the initiative to understand and learn. This is much better than sitting and waiting for others to tell me. The speed of progress will be much faster if I take the initiative to seek improvement. Not bad."

Chen Yi continued: "Some of them I saw were about value investing, which is similar to what you just said, Brother Li. Brother Li summed it up very concisely and incisively, which gave me a clearer understanding and understanding of value investing."

Chen Yi thought about patting Li Shan's flattery first, and then asking his own questions, so as not to make Li Shan misunderstand that he disagreed with his point of view, which would be bad.I have to say that Chen Yi's consideration is still very good. Li Shan was very happy when he heard the words, and nodded with a smile. Looking at it, Chen Yi motioned him to continue. Although he knew that Chen Yi was flattering himself, but listening to this I'm still very happy, after all, everyone likes to hear praise, right?

Chen Yi looked at Li Shan who was very happy after listening to his words, so he continued to carefully say: "But I saw some things that you didn't mention, Brother Li, what kind of technical analysis is it? It's underlined and analyzed. The high and low points, and what other indicators and parameters, I don’t quite understand. Brother Li, do you know what these things mean? What is the reason for their establishment? I see that only some of them are written in those books. As a result, but I didn’t write the reason, I don’t think it’s reliable, so I want to ask Brother Li, what do you think of this so-called technical analysis?”

Li Shan's face changed when he heard the words, and the original curve of the corners of his mouth disappeared. He never thought that Chen Yi would ask this question. As a fund manager, Li Shan naturally knew about technical analysis, but he didn't believe it was correct. In his view, the so-called technical analysis cannot withstand logical scrutiny. It is the law summed up by a group of people after the event. It may be applicable at a certain stage, but it will never be applicable in the long run. Going awry.

Li Shan pondered for a moment and asked a serious question: "Yi, you have also read those books explaining technical analysis, tell me your opinion, what do you think of these things?"

Chen Yi didn't expect that Li Shan would ask himself back. He knew that Li Shan was teaching him, so he organized his words and said, "I think these technical analysis looks amazing. You can know the stock's ups and downs, and you can even Calculate the daily highest or lowest price, but I always feel something is wrong, I can’t believe it, and it’s not so practical to use, and the examples in these big books seem to be very accurate and reasonable, But when I tried to use it, I found that I couldn't get started, and I didn't know how to use it. I always felt that I didn't understand it well enough, and I didn't learn it deeply enough, but I didn't know how to go deeper? What should I do? So I A bit distressed."

Li Shan heaved a sigh of relief after hearing Chen Yi's words. He was particularly afraid of hearing Chen Yi say that technical analysis is correct and useful.You must know that different ways do not seek each other. No one in the market can prove that technical analysis is wrong. Many people who fail in technical analysis are just emphasizing that they are not good at learning and have nothing to do with the technology itself.The three fund managers of Ruiming Investment are all advocating value investing and are absolute supporters of value investing. The money they have earned for so many years since entering the industry is also obtained from value investing. They all look down on technical analysis. It's all wrong.

If Chen Yi is now very positive or enthusiastically telling him how good and right it is to do technical analysis, he will consider either completely convincing Chen Yi, or changing a researcher and letting Chen Yi go.

But fortunately, Chen Yi was also in a very dazed state. Li Shan was relieved by his dazed expression and hesitant tone. It turned out that Chen Yi just had some doubts, and he didn't really admire technical analysis.

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In this way, it seems that all you need is to talk to Chen Yi carefully, and there is no need to change another researcher and let Chen Yi go.To be honest, Li Shan still likes Chen Yi very much. Li Shan thinks that Chen Yi is very similar to his former self, and he is better at thinking and summarizing than he was back then.

If Chen Yi was really forced to pack up and leave, and change to another researcher, Li Shan would still be a little bit reluctant.

After thinking about this, Li Shan breathed a sigh of relief, and continued to give Chen Yi investment lessons on value investment and technical analysis~ Li Shan said: "There is a problem with this technical analysis, although no one can prove it now. Absolutely wrong, but we can analyze and demonstrate logically. Yi, do you know how these so-called technical analyzes come from?"

Chen Yidao: "I know a little bit. To put it simply, there are a group of people who wake up early and summarize the stock price trend and changes in the form of statistics, and then use the summarized results to predict and judge the stock price trend in the future."

Li Shan nodded and said, "Yes, that's it. Now let me tell you why I said technical analysis is problematic."

Chen Yi nodded and listened carefully to every word Li Shan said.

Li Shandao: "As you said just now, this technical analysis is a group of people who summarize the stock price trend and changes in the form of statistics, and then use the summarized results to predict and judge the future stock price trend. Then they The stock price situation for a period of time is used as a sample for the research and development of technical indicators, then the technical indicators developed must be in line with the period they choose, but they may not be in line with the future period, because the future period and the period they choose The situation is not necessarily the same.

For example, the macroeconomic situation may have changed, the country may have introduced some new policies, or the structure of market participants has changed. In the past, ordinary retail investors may participate, but now they may mainly participate in professional ones. Professional institutional investors, the knowledge, ability, rationality, and amount of capital of the two are different, which will lead to differences in the two time intervals, so do you think it is reasonable to apply the same indicators?

It's like two questions, one math question and one English question.Do you think it is easy to use the method of solving math problems to solve English problems?There are preconditions for everything, but in daily life, many preconditions are ignored by everyone because of living habits or various reasons, but even if they are ignored, the objective reality that these conditions still exist cannot be denied. When considering problems, you should Take these conditions that are usually ignored by us into account.

It’s like we said that a person’s speed of [-] meters is usually in the range of how much to how much, but this is under the gravity of the earth. If it is on the moon, it is definitely not this data. Everyone knows this, but when you When you only talk about the human speed of [-] meters, everyone will default that you are talking about the earth.But if an alien comes here at this time and he doesn't know this prerequisite, what will he think when he hears the result?

The same is true for technical analysis. We don't know the specific conditions and environmental factors for the birth of each technical indicator, and we don't know what kind of market it is applicable to. Applicable, nothing more.

So this is why I said that there is a problem with technical analysis, and it is also the reason why you feel that the logic is not clear and you dare not use it, because you do not know many prerequisites. "

Chen Yi carefully thought about every word Li Shan said, and found that it seemed to be true.

Li Shan is right. Li Shan’s expression is logical and reasonable, so it seems that there is a problem with technical analysis.

But after thinking about it, Chen Yi still felt that what Li Shan said was not quite right, so he asked: "Then why are there so many people advocating technical analysis? It is impossible for everyone to be confused and unable to see the truth clearly." Bar."

Li Shan smiled and said: "The truth is always in the hands of a few people. Have you noticed what kind of people most of those people are? They are all retail investors, right? Why do they ask technical analysis so much? Everyone is lazy. I just told you about value investing, and you also briefly wrote a research report on a company. You should know how long it takes and how much it costs to study a company well? We It doesn't matter as a professional in securities investment, because this is our job.

But have you ever thought about whether those retail investors have this time?They need to go to work, go to school, have their own work, life, and family. Some even have to take care of their children. After get off work at night, they have to do laundry, cook and take care of their children. How can they have so much time to study a listed company?What do you think most people would do if you told them there was a way to do it that didn't take a lot of time? "

Li Shan left a question without explaining everything, and let Chen Yi think for himself.Chen Yi was not a fool either, so he naturally understood the answer to Li Shan's question.

Chen Yi took Li Shan's words and said: "It is true that under such circumstances, some people will learn technical analysis, operate according to the method of technical analysis, and buy and sell stocks. Not to mention that the indicators of technical analysis are not It is fabricated out of thin air and calculated through data models and mathematical statistics. Every technical indicator is accurate in a certain period of time, and it is very accurate. No one can deny this.

This has also resulted in a lot of big guys who like to act after the fact. Originally, the professionalism of retail investors is poor, and they are shaken because of time issues. In addition, these so-called masters are fueling the flames, and the continuous hype has also caused a large number of retail investors to go forward. Influx into the army of technical analysis.

These retail investors account for a very large proportion in the market, at least in today's market, otherwise there would be no such thing as "the stock market has seven losses, two balances and one profit". "

Li Shan was so happy when he heard the words, he almost clapped his hands and applauded. He didn't expect that Chen Yi could think so clearly after just dialing a few words, which made him very happy. In his opinion, Chen Yi had already understood. If you understand it, then you won't be entangled in the future, which is a good thing.

Li Shandao: "It's good that you understand, do you have any other questions?"

Chen Yi shook his head and said: "No problem, thank you Brother Li, I have been thinking about it for a long time but I can't come up with a result, thanks to Brother Li, thank you Brother Li for letting me understand a lot of things that I didn't want to understand before, and things I didn't know before. And reason, thank you Brother Li. I'll think about it when I go back later, and digest it."

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