I’m Almost Losing to a Muggle

We... are very happy to see the establishment of the Chip Alliance. We are very glad that Huaxia Chip has got a once-in-a-decade opportunity. I hope that everyone will unite as one and win this technological war under the leadership of Miaoxin.

Perhaps, many of the people present are successful people.

They don't worry about food or housing loans, but no matter who they are, no matter what level they are at, they will be in awe.

The we in the old man's mouth is what everyone is in awe of.

Pei Qianlong was helpless.

The situation is getting more and more complicated, gradually losing control, and today's venue may be just the beginning.

However, this is also expected.

For such a big matter, it is impossible not to respond at all.

And the attitude of the higher-ups is also very clear. This senior, who represented the higher-ups, was very happy to use two in a row, which is enough to show his support for the chip alliance, and there may be a lot of actual support in the future.

Then the old man also affirmed the power structure of the chip alliance.

Obviously, Guo Jia does not intend to interfere too much, and publicly supports Miaoxin, hoping that everyone can listen to Miaoxin.

Such an endorsement is too strong.

In addition, the other industries of Maochang can also be taken care of, provided that you don’t mess around, even if you hit the board, the same board may be very powerful when hitting others, but it may only be two or three points if you hit Maochang. up.

Others are envious.

They want that too.

It's a pity that they don't have the technology, not even 28nm, let alone 14nm.

The matter of 14nm was only mentioned yesterday, and the higher-ups gave a response today, which is obviously a decision made after some discussion.

Pei Qianlong estimated that at least the chip research institute and the fab would respond.

The research institute of the Chip Alliance is also on the side of the fab, and it will be moved there after it is built, and there are some factories and so on.

After the seniors above made a short speech, the meeting continued.

Next is the handover ceremony of the first 28nm lithography machine.

Mr. Xiao, the vice president of Xiarun Group, took over the certificate from Sun Moyu, along with the inspection report, which proves that this is a fully qualified machine.

They got lucky and got the first lithography machine.

At that time, the production efficiency will be improved, the rate of good products will be increased, and some mid-end orders that were unable to undertake in the past may also be involved. These are real benefits.

Why?

It is based on the fact that there is a purchasing supervisor in their family who has connections and has a personal relationship with Kleist's people.

Therefore, there is no absolute fairness in this world. In the final analysis, it is the exchange of favors and interests.

Others are only envious.

For this lithography machine, the research and development costs are not included. The equipment and manpower are collected by several veterans of the chip alliance. The raw materials, patents, and cost are about 30 million, and the price is 30 million US dollars, which is almost 180 million. look.

If the cost is removed, one set will have a profit of 150 million.

Very cowhide.

This is actually nothing. Huaxin International previously ordered a 14nm process lithography machine from ASML, which cost 120 million U.S. dollars, which is about 750 million Huaxia coins.

Although there is a generation difference between the two, there is a four-fold difference, and any fool knows how to choose.

A 28nm lithography machine can process 14nm, 12nm or even 10nm chips after two exposures, but the yield rate will drop a lot, which will increase production costs.

The problem is that they don't deliver the goods, no matter how good they are.

The one ordered by Huaxin International has now canceled the order.

Order from Chip Alliance instead.

The chip alliance currently has insufficient production capacity, and it takes almost half a month to produce a 28nm lithography machine, and Huaxin International also needs to queue up.

However, they are the veterans of the chip alliance, and their strength is strong, and they will not wait too long for the follow-up.

Lin Dong knew about the chip conference.

He had a faint feeling that the technology he had produced was a little too awesome.

He also checked Weibo to see how the media reported on the chip, and unexpectedly found that there were no reports from the scene, not even discussing this chip conference.

Now I finally feel relieved.

Then he opened Mohu to see if anyone answered a question he asked yesterday.

His question is, If a domestic company develops and manufactures a 28nm lithography machine and sells 30 million units, what is the approximate profit?

In fact, this kind of question should be consulted with the people at Miaoxin, a one-sentence matter, but Boss Lin didn't ask - being backstabbed all day long, he is now suspicious.

Therefore, he chose to listen to the thoughts of ordinary people.

It was posted yesterday, and today there are more than 700 responses, and it was even put on the hot list by XX.

Many answers are not nutritious. For example, this one says: Generally speaking, the subject of the question is a paranoid patient. I really don't understand why so many people like this fishing post.

Chinese people always like to dream, the theme is to wake up and stop dreaming.

If we can build a 28nm lithography machine within three years, I will broadcast live.

Most of them didn't believe it, and felt that it was meaningless to discuss this topic, but soon there were some slightly nutritious answers.

As a practitioner in the chip industry, I can tell the subject clearly that the 28nm lithography machine is really not something we can manufacture. If, I mean, if it is manufactured, the cost of materials alone may cost 30 to 50 million , not to mention the investment in equipment, manpower, and technology, there is no profit at all for selling 300 million units, and I really don’t understand how the subject’s 30 million pricing came about.”

30 million is actually not impossible, the premise is that our Guo Jiayi will subsidize 500 million.

This is an industry with tens of billions of investment. The biggest bad debt in our bank a few years ago was a chip company. Take the cost of lithography separately, you have to consider the issue of the initial investment, you might as well ask how much money you need to invest to manufacture a 28nm lithography machine, my answer to this question is at least 200 billion.”

A university majoring in microelectronics science and engineering is studying for a Ph.D. I really don't want to answer your question, but since I have seen it one by one, let me simply say that if foreign technology is authorized, we are not incapable of producing 28nm. After all, we are now able to produce 90nm lithography machines, but how much it costs for technology authorization is something that cannot be compared, because it involves too many Zheng Zhi factors; back to the topic, if the domestic 28nm If the lithography machine is priced, I think it should be between 150 million and 300 million. If it is lower than this, it will only kill the company. If it is higher than this, we will fall into the vicious circle of making it better than buying...

You don't need to give money, do you know how much extra investment is needed around a lithography machine?

Four years ago, I was fortunate to follow the company delegation to visit Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd. and learned about the prices of some of their lithography machines. At that time, the purchase price of their 28nm lithography machine was NT$4.3 billion, although now with the volume of 14nm Production, 7nm research and development, the price of 28nm should come down, I don’t think it’s too expensive to sell three to five billion Huaxia coins.”

Haha, those who answered the questions were Xiao Kuo Ai.

Boss Lin flipped through the answers with relish. At this moment, he felt that the whole world was on his side.