Chapter 413
In all fairness, although Zhu Su said those words, he still has no idea what kind of theory to replace "Confucianism" and how to brew his own "new wine" suitable for the new Ming Dynasty.
Even if there was, facing Liu Bowen, he would not dare to be open and honest with him at the current stage.
Liu Bowen is different from Nahachu, Guantong, and even Yao Guangxiao.Even if he knew the history in advance, Zhu Su did not dare to say that he could see through this person.
You must know that although Liu Bowen has never done anything to harm Daming or betray Lao Zhu in history.But after actually coming to Daming, Zhu Su discovered that he was always unavoidably jealous of this historical figure who was supposed to be a model of famous officials and virtuous ministers.
Although there is a saying in later generations that "Zhuge Liang divides the world into three parts, and Liu Bowen dominates the country", which has promoted Liu Bowen to the highest echelon of famous ministers and ministers in the past, but in fact, during the Hongwu period, Liu Bowen's status in the Ming court was not high. .
Liu Bowen participated in the Yuan court examination in the past, and was a Jinshi in the Yuan Dynasty.He once served as the governor of Gao'an County and the governor of the Marshal of Jiangsu and Zhejiang, and was responsible for suppressing and killing all kinds of rebels. He was once considered loyal to Dayuan.
Later, due to corruption in the Yuan court, Liu Bowen resigned at home angrily.Lao Zhu heard of his reputation, so he sent someone to invite him out of the mountain.However, at the beginning, Liu Bowen was not optimistic about Lao Zhu, and after several extensions, he finally came out reluctantly.
As the founding heroes, Li Shanchang, Xu Da and others were granted the title of Duke, but Liu Bowen was only granted the title of Uncle.Also because of the above factors, after the founding of the Ming Dynasty, Liu Bowen knew that he was always feared by many Huaixi courtiers.
It is many levels behind the folk style of "unifying the country" in later generations.
Moreover, this time, Lao Liu has completely stepped on the thunder point of the primary target that Lao Zhu has to deal with now: that is, the former officials of the Yuan court, or the masters of Confucianism.The most important thing is that he was the leader of the Huaixi faction headed by Hu Weiyong and Li Shanchang, who were publicly launched by the courtiers of the Yuan court who called themselves "Qingliu".
He had guessed that Lao Zhu was going to attack Confucianism, would he have guessed that the ultimate goal of the court was to point the sword at the old Yuan and surrender his ministers?
If he knew the details, would he have tipped off the old ministers, or even made suggestions?
Facing Liu Bowen like this, Zhu Su didn't dare to be careless.After thinking about it for a while, I decided to continue to test it: "Sir, what you said is really bluffing."
"This king is not yet a weak crown, so why talk about reforming the world's literati? It's just some academic doubts, let's think about it, and get a little bit of it."
"Your Highness doesn't trust the minister anymore." Liu Bowen didn't argue with Zhu Su, on the contrary, he directly stated Zhu Su's concerns without any shyness, which made Zhu Su startled.Just listen to Liu Bowen sighing: "I served Bao Yuan in my early years and served him."
"Now His Majesty wants to rectify the old officials of the Yuan Court, and the ministers are also on the list. It is not unusual for His Highness to be afraid of the ministers under the orders of His Majesty."
Sure enough, he guessed it!
Zhu Su's heart beat wildly.I haven't even started to attack Confucianism. Even Lao Zhu just wants to dig out the corners of Confucianism first, so that he can cultivate a new type of literati that can be applied, and then knock down the old officials of the Yuan court in the court.
It can be said that Liu Bowen had guessed Lao Zhu's final plan before even the beginning!
Zhu Su's eyes were cloudy and uncertain, and he didn't know how to deal with it.After a while, he slumped on the chair as if giving up: "Sir, trying to figure out what you want is a taboo for a minister. Aren't you afraid that the father will be furious?"
"His Royal Highness is worried." Seeing that Zhu Su finally started to be honest, Liu Bowen was also happy, and said, "Your Majesty is the Lord of the world, so naturally he will not condemn innocent people."
"Although the old minister is humble, he also knows that the atmosphere of the world has been decaying for a long time. This is the time when we are changing the past in China. If your majesty does not do this, the king of future affairs will never do it."
"Therefore, this discussion between Your Majesty and Your Highness, the old minister is happy to see it come to fruition." Liu Bowen expressed his heart.
"I see." Zhu Su nodded.It is absolutely nonsense to say that Lao Zhu will not punish innocent people.
But after much deliberation, Zhu Su decided to trust Liu Bowen.After all, Liu Bowen was honest and self-conscious in history, after all, he was different from most of the old Yuan court officials.
Moreover, taking the initiative to participate in it may also be a wise way to protect oneself thought out by Liu Bowen.
The most important thing is that when Lao Zhu raised the Kongyin case and Guo Huan case in history, it did not affect Liu's family.
"In this dark room, the king will truthfully report every word the master said to the emperor. Is that okay?" Zhu Su tentatively asked.
"This is what should be done." Liu Bowen nodded. "The minister asked His Highness to find a dark room just to prevent the minister's remonstrance from being spread among the princes and scholars in the court. It should be stated directly to His Majesty."
"It's just that if the memorial of the book is feared to be leaked by others, it would be best if His Highness is willing to present it in person on behalf of the minister."
Zhu Su nodded, what he said made sense.After all, what we want to talk about is digging the corners of Confucianism and cutting off the power and wealth of hundreds of officials.If things get out, even Lao Zhu will face great resistance, not to mention Liu Bowen.
Therefore, the only way to boil frogs in warm water is to start with the Guozijian, step by step, first mix sand among the literati, then deal with the civil officials, and finally promote new-style literati that are in line with the interests of Ming Dynasty to fill the gaps among the civil officials.
Presumably, just because Fang Xiaoru uttered a different point of view, and then he, the "teacher of Fang Xiaoru", is about to join the Imperial Academy, Yang Xunwen and others above the court would rather take risks to frame him, a prominent and meritorious prince. , but also to prevent it from intervening in the Imperial College.
Not to mention the uproar that would be caused if they knew that the emperor wanted to poach the corner of Confucianism.
"Since that's the case, I will tell you clearly." Zhu Su said. "To be honest, this king has little talent and learning, and has no ability to formulate a new Confucian program that can withstand scrutiny."
"Your Highness is too modest." Liu Bowen said solemnly. "His Royal Highness's 'science' is exquisite and profound, fully revealing the mysteries of the world. Why bother to look far away?"
"The way of science, the piles of piles, fit together perfectly. The application of its principles can be proved by examples in this world. Even if someone can speak like a lotus flower, it is irrefutable."
"Sir, do you want me to promote science?" Zhu Su frowned.
"But science is practical learning..."
What Lao Zhu wants is to control the thoughts of literati.Guide their pursuit from "ruling the world with the emperor" to other places that are beneficial to Ming Dynasty.
If you want to do this, you can't do it with science that is only used to manage the world, and you must have a matching ideological program.
(End of this chapter)
In all fairness, although Zhu Su said those words, he still has no idea what kind of theory to replace "Confucianism" and how to brew his own "new wine" suitable for the new Ming Dynasty.
Even if there was, facing Liu Bowen, he would not dare to be open and honest with him at the current stage.
Liu Bowen is different from Nahachu, Guantong, and even Yao Guangxiao.Even if he knew the history in advance, Zhu Su did not dare to say that he could see through this person.
You must know that although Liu Bowen has never done anything to harm Daming or betray Lao Zhu in history.But after actually coming to Daming, Zhu Su discovered that he was always unavoidably jealous of this historical figure who was supposed to be a model of famous officials and virtuous ministers.
Although there is a saying in later generations that "Zhuge Liang divides the world into three parts, and Liu Bowen dominates the country", which has promoted Liu Bowen to the highest echelon of famous ministers and ministers in the past, but in fact, during the Hongwu period, Liu Bowen's status in the Ming court was not high. .
Liu Bowen participated in the Yuan court examination in the past, and was a Jinshi in the Yuan Dynasty.He once served as the governor of Gao'an County and the governor of the Marshal of Jiangsu and Zhejiang, and was responsible for suppressing and killing all kinds of rebels. He was once considered loyal to Dayuan.
Later, due to corruption in the Yuan court, Liu Bowen resigned at home angrily.Lao Zhu heard of his reputation, so he sent someone to invite him out of the mountain.However, at the beginning, Liu Bowen was not optimistic about Lao Zhu, and after several extensions, he finally came out reluctantly.
As the founding heroes, Li Shanchang, Xu Da and others were granted the title of Duke, but Liu Bowen was only granted the title of Uncle.Also because of the above factors, after the founding of the Ming Dynasty, Liu Bowen knew that he was always feared by many Huaixi courtiers.
It is many levels behind the folk style of "unifying the country" in later generations.
Moreover, this time, Lao Liu has completely stepped on the thunder point of the primary target that Lao Zhu has to deal with now: that is, the former officials of the Yuan court, or the masters of Confucianism.The most important thing is that he was the leader of the Huaixi faction headed by Hu Weiyong and Li Shanchang, who were publicly launched by the courtiers of the Yuan court who called themselves "Qingliu".
He had guessed that Lao Zhu was going to attack Confucianism, would he have guessed that the ultimate goal of the court was to point the sword at the old Yuan and surrender his ministers?
If he knew the details, would he have tipped off the old ministers, or even made suggestions?
Facing Liu Bowen like this, Zhu Su didn't dare to be careless.After thinking about it for a while, I decided to continue to test it: "Sir, what you said is really bluffing."
"This king is not yet a weak crown, so why talk about reforming the world's literati? It's just some academic doubts, let's think about it, and get a little bit of it."
"Your Highness doesn't trust the minister anymore." Liu Bowen didn't argue with Zhu Su, on the contrary, he directly stated Zhu Su's concerns without any shyness, which made Zhu Su startled.Just listen to Liu Bowen sighing: "I served Bao Yuan in my early years and served him."
"Now His Majesty wants to rectify the old officials of the Yuan Court, and the ministers are also on the list. It is not unusual for His Highness to be afraid of the ministers under the orders of His Majesty."
Sure enough, he guessed it!
Zhu Su's heart beat wildly.I haven't even started to attack Confucianism. Even Lao Zhu just wants to dig out the corners of Confucianism first, so that he can cultivate a new type of literati that can be applied, and then knock down the old officials of the Yuan court in the court.
It can be said that Liu Bowen had guessed Lao Zhu's final plan before even the beginning!
Zhu Su's eyes were cloudy and uncertain, and he didn't know how to deal with it.After a while, he slumped on the chair as if giving up: "Sir, trying to figure out what you want is a taboo for a minister. Aren't you afraid that the father will be furious?"
"His Royal Highness is worried." Seeing that Zhu Su finally started to be honest, Liu Bowen was also happy, and said, "Your Majesty is the Lord of the world, so naturally he will not condemn innocent people."
"Although the old minister is humble, he also knows that the atmosphere of the world has been decaying for a long time. This is the time when we are changing the past in China. If your majesty does not do this, the king of future affairs will never do it."
"Therefore, this discussion between Your Majesty and Your Highness, the old minister is happy to see it come to fruition." Liu Bowen expressed his heart.
"I see." Zhu Su nodded.It is absolutely nonsense to say that Lao Zhu will not punish innocent people.
But after much deliberation, Zhu Su decided to trust Liu Bowen.After all, Liu Bowen was honest and self-conscious in history, after all, he was different from most of the old Yuan court officials.
Moreover, taking the initiative to participate in it may also be a wise way to protect oneself thought out by Liu Bowen.
The most important thing is that when Lao Zhu raised the Kongyin case and Guo Huan case in history, it did not affect Liu's family.
"In this dark room, the king will truthfully report every word the master said to the emperor. Is that okay?" Zhu Su tentatively asked.
"This is what should be done." Liu Bowen nodded. "The minister asked His Highness to find a dark room just to prevent the minister's remonstrance from being spread among the princes and scholars in the court. It should be stated directly to His Majesty."
"It's just that if the memorial of the book is feared to be leaked by others, it would be best if His Highness is willing to present it in person on behalf of the minister."
Zhu Su nodded, what he said made sense.After all, what we want to talk about is digging the corners of Confucianism and cutting off the power and wealth of hundreds of officials.If things get out, even Lao Zhu will face great resistance, not to mention Liu Bowen.
Therefore, the only way to boil frogs in warm water is to start with the Guozijian, step by step, first mix sand among the literati, then deal with the civil officials, and finally promote new-style literati that are in line with the interests of Ming Dynasty to fill the gaps among the civil officials.
Presumably, just because Fang Xiaoru uttered a different point of view, and then he, the "teacher of Fang Xiaoru", is about to join the Imperial Academy, Yang Xunwen and others above the court would rather take risks to frame him, a prominent and meritorious prince. , but also to prevent it from intervening in the Imperial College.
Not to mention the uproar that would be caused if they knew that the emperor wanted to poach the corner of Confucianism.
"Since that's the case, I will tell you clearly." Zhu Su said. "To be honest, this king has little talent and learning, and has no ability to formulate a new Confucian program that can withstand scrutiny."
"Your Highness is too modest." Liu Bowen said solemnly. "His Royal Highness's 'science' is exquisite and profound, fully revealing the mysteries of the world. Why bother to look far away?"
"The way of science, the piles of piles, fit together perfectly. The application of its principles can be proved by examples in this world. Even if someone can speak like a lotus flower, it is irrefutable."
"Sir, do you want me to promote science?" Zhu Su frowned.
"But science is practical learning..."
What Lao Zhu wants is to control the thoughts of literati.Guide their pursuit from "ruling the world with the emperor" to other places that are beneficial to Ming Dynasty.
If you want to do this, you can't do it with science that is only used to manage the world, and you must have a matching ideological program.
(End of this chapter)
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