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Chapter 355 Miscellaneous talk: Where did the thousand-handed clan go 1
Hashirama used Mudun to suppress Kyuubi back then, and Konoha also had Kyuubi's Jinchuriki because of this, but after Hashirama died, Mudun had no successors, (the only one in Konoha village who can suppress tailed beasts is Sharingan) One method) Konoha once devoted all his efforts to the research on the cells between the pillars for a period of time, hoping that Konoha would appear a wooden escape ninja again, but in the end they all failed, and this plan could only be declared bankrupt. was sealed.

In fact, in the plots in the comics (and animations), we can see that after the third Hokage ascended the throne, the relationship between Konoha Village and the Uchiha clan has not been very harmonious. The difference from the second generation of Hokage is that ,

The third generation is a docile pacifist, and there are three decision makers around the third generation, Danzo and Mitomonyan, and Koharu. These three decision makers are distrustful and wary of Uchiha

Therefore, the method of suppressing tailed beasts, such as leaving the Sharingan alone, will definitely not work for the high-level Konoha, and the research on Mudun (column cells) must be carried out.

The most suitable subjects for the experiment are most likely the fellows of the Thousand Hands Zhujian, because those of the same race may be more compatible with the Zhujian cells in terms of blood relationship.
So I speculate that most of the outstanding young men of the Qianshou clan died in this experiment

Besides, it's war

During the reign of the third generation of Naruto, the second Ninja World War and the third Ninja World War took place in the ninja world. people’s surnames) all joined the battlefield, among which Naoshu was unfortunately killed (only 12 years old)
And it can be seen from the performance of the Uchiha clan (Uchiha Obito) who also joined the battlefield in the third Ninja World War,

The Thousand Hands may also participate in the war, and may still be a mainstay role

These may be the two reasons for the decrease in the number of the Thousand Hands and the decline of the family. The successive deaths of teenagers and adults in the group have made the Thousand Hands no longer the glory of the past
Just as the destruction of the Uzumaki Clan, a blood-related group by marriage, cannot be prevented,
The Qianshou family just disappeared in the long river of history and became ordinary people
In addition, there is another wave of brain holes (don’t like it, don’t like it, don’t like it), and never said that Nagato has the blood of Senshou (I don’t know if this is a translation error or something)
Nagato’s Uzumaki bloodline is inherited from his mother (although Uzumaki and Senju are blood relatives far away, there is absolutely no such thing as Nagato’s Uzumaki bloodline), so could Nagato’s father be Senju who concealed his identity? What about the civilians of the same family?
In real name, I object to the idea that the Thousand-Handed Clan let go of the Clan and integrate into the common people, not to mention that it is never mentioned in the comics. Let's think about it in the simplest way, the largest family must have a family of 800 people.

Assuming that these 800 people are all married to foreigners or even civilians, it is impossible for their surnames to disappear so quickly.From the time when Konoha was built to the third generation, it took less than 70 years to reach the sky. Even if the per capita age of 30 in the Warring States period is calculated, even if there are two or at most three generations, it is impossible for the Senshou family to live for two generations in peacetime. Are they all girls?
What's more, if the blood of the Qianshou family still continues, why is their family's reputation lost at all?During the Chunin exams, so many viewers were looking forward to Sasuke because his surname was Uchiha, why didn't there even be one to mention Senshou?When it came to Shippuden, Chiyo talked about how to deal with Sharingan, which reflected the importance that countries attach to Uchiha from the side; as for Senju, for a long time, no one even mentioned it; Don't you want all the glory?Have their surnames disappeared, and even their prestige?
If it is true what many bigwigs said, they let go of their clan and become commoners, then during the Chunin exam, when those audiences mentioned Uchiha, they should not forget Senshou.Furthermore, the Uzumaki clan has a shrine, and the Uchiha clan has a stronghold (Sasuke and Itachi were in Uchiha’s stronghold when they fought). This is evidence that they once prospered as a big clan. Senju, have you seen it?

The Senju Clan is the only strongest clan that can compete with the Uchiha Clan during the Warring States Period. All members of the Clan have a strong physique. As the descendants of Ashura, the second son of the Sage of the Six Paths, they have more or less inherited some of the characteristics of the Sage Body. This is the capital they can compete with Uchiha.Since the Uchiha clan can have so many people, the Senju clan will naturally have fewer people, and the number of people lost by the two families during the war should be about the same, so it means that when Konoha was established, the Senju clan must still be there. There are quite a few people.

As for why there is no more news about the Thousand Hands in the comics?I think it is impossible because the large population base of the Thousand Hands Clan disappeared out of thin air. It can only be said that the glory of the Thousand Hands Clan has not been able to continue.In the generation of Tsunade and Nawaki, although they are also members of the Senju clan, their physique is far inferior to that of the first and second generations. Tsunade does not have the same chakra and recovery ability as the first generation, nor can he inherit the blood succession limit boundary of the first generation. Wood escape, that's why the technique of Baihao was invented.Therefore, at this stage, the members of the Qianshou family may be unknown people, so there is no need to mention it.At the same time, it is likely that through a large number of intermarriages and alliances, a large number of members of the Qianshou clan have been dispersed to other ethnic groups in Konoha, and gradually they will not have the so-called original scale.In many cases, although some ethnic groups are known as a clan, there are always a few representative figures who appear on the stage. For example, the Shimura clan was considered a big clan when they joined Konoha with the Sarutobi clan, but Danzo was the only one from the beginning to the end. People have appeared, so we can't deny the existence of the Shimura clan, right?

1. Physiologically

Although the Thousand Hands Clan is famous for its chakra and vitality, this does not mean that the descendants are prosperous, and may gradually disappear with the decrease of offspring and the large proportion of female offspring.

2. War
Senshou is the leader of Konoha in the early days, and it is also the main combat force. Judging from the characteristics of his clan, it is estimated that they all belong to the position of the main attacker or nurse in the team, so the death rate is quite high. Uchiha can still watch the house because of historical reasons. The Hand Clan is expected to be able to set an example. In the plot, the Thousand-Shou Princess and the young young master are both sent to the battlefield. It can be seen that the Thousand-Shou Clan has been active in the battlefield, and the casualties are serious.

3. Marriage
Senshou is different from Uchiha and Hinata. Tsunade, as a nobleman in the clan, would look for a boyfriend from another clan. It can be seen that the first generation and the second generation did not care much about controlling the outflow of blood. It may also be that after the establishment of Konoha, the two The brothers care more about Konoha than the continuation of a certain clan.Because of this, many bloodlines may have flowed out and integrated into other families of Konoha.

[-]. Not disappearing for no reason, but appearing too late

In fact, "The Clan of Thousand Hands" does not have the problem of "disappearing for no reason" at all, because it is simply a concept of ethnic groups created for the later stage of the plot.

Where is the evidence?very simple.

Because when the first part of the manga ended, both the first generation of Hokage and the second generation of Hokage still had no names in the data set.In the data, the names of the two are "First Hokage" and "Second Hokage", without names and surnames.

The two names "Thousands of Bamboos" and "Thousands of Gates" were first seen in Naruto's fourth data collection "The Book of the Zodiac", and the official character naming was very late.

The first mention of the word "Thousands of Hands" in the comics appeared when the "mask man" played by Obito told Sasuke who was tied to the bed when he told the history of the Uchiha family, "Thousands of Hands" This concept was also proposed at this time.

The first time the comics mentioned the four words "Thousand Hands", it appeared from the mouths of the Fourth Raikage and Tsunade in the flashback of the "Four Wars".

In other words, the official naming of the two characters Senshou Zhujian and Senshou Feijian Brothers appeared very late.

The official appearance of these names is near the end of the middle and late stages of Naruto Comics Four Wars. The existence of the so-called "Thousand-handed Clan" was not set by Kishimoto at the beginning, so in the first manga and Hayate In the early days of the biography, except for the sentence "Tsunate is the granddaughter of the first Hokage, and Roki is the grandson of the first Hokage", this "Hokage family" does not have any key information in the plot, not even Tsunade and her ancestors What a "big family".

So Tsunade's name has always been "Tsunade", not "Thousands of Tsunade", because Kishimoto never gave this family a surname at all in the early days, and his grandfather was anonymous, of course Tsunade Brother and sister Shengshu will not have any surnames.

This is easy to cause more misunderstandings. In addition, Japanese is the same as English, and grandfather and grandfather are both the same word. The question of meaning is to make up for the question of whether Tsunade is the granddaughter or granddaughter of Senju Zhuma.

I mentioned this question in previous related answers, as long as the ninja world recognizes that Tsunade is a descendant of the Senju clan, she is a descendant of the Senju clan, and whether she has a surname is not the point at all.Many people will deliberately ignore this point when analyzing Tsunade's identity, it's either stupid or bad!

Before the first generation of Hokage in the fourth war chapter explained [Memoirs of the Warring States] to Sasuke, the concept of "Thousand Hands" was vague and inaccurate, and it was not qualified enough to follow the first manga and gradually shape it through a lot of foreshadowing Compared with the "Uchiha Clan" of the "Uchiha Clan", it is not suitable for the "Yin-Yang Contradiction" in which the fate of the six twins is entangled.

This is to symmetry the "Uchiha Clan" of the Warring States Period, and a "Senju Clan" was created to match... the consistent operation of the symmetrical madman Masashi Kishimoto.

But when did the concept of "Uchiha Clan" exist?At the beginning of the manga serialization, the "Na no Kuni mission arc" has been settled before!Even as early as the first day of Kakashiban's establishment, Sasuke said "My wish is to kill that man", the setting of the Uchiha clan has been determined by Kishimoto!

And when was the concept of "Thousand-Handed Clan" formalized? The "Four Wars Chapter" was only proposed in the middle and late stages!

Where is the problem, is it clear?
As a result, Kishimoto couldn't go back and explain why the "others of the Senju clan" went to Konoha's history.

At this time, the plot has entered the last big chapter before the end [Four Wars Chapter]. Kishimoto's energy is completely insufficient. Increase the workload on secondary issues.

"The Clan of Thousand Hands" is a plot bug. Its problem is not "disappearing without reason", but "coming out too late". A thing that did not [appear] in the first place, how can it [disappear]?
In the end, Kishimoto didn't bother to fill in this pit, it's that simple, there is no need to use "conspiracy theory" to interpret it, the answer is on the surface.

[-]. A comprehensive rebuttal to the five common hypotheses of "the reasons for the disappearance of the Thousand-Handed Clan"
The following are five "reasons for the disappearance of the Thousand Hands Clan" that widely exist on the Internet to refute and criticize, because they cannot withstand scrutiny from any angle.

(1) All members of the Thousand Hands set an example by giving up their surnames and integrating into Ninja Village
This kind of interpretation can indeed reflect the righteousness of the family and country of the Senju Clan and the first Hokage, emphasizing the collective and ignoring the family, and can also compare the narrowness of the Uchiha Clan.

But... can you explain why the following families still retain their surnames?
Uchiha, Hyuga, Sarutobi, Akimichi, Nara, Yamanaka, Inuzuka, Aurome, Shimura...the major families who co-authored and built the village, except you Senju clan, no one gave up their surnames!

Even the immigrant "Whirlpool", who left his hometown and immigrated to Konoha, did not say that he gave up his surname.Uzumaki Mito, Kushina, and Naruto didn't change their surnames... On the contrary, Yuhihong, Hinata Hinata, and Haruno Sakura all changed their husband's surnames after they got married...

Sarutobi Red, Uzumaki Hinata, Uchiha Sakura... It makes me want to laugh, their independence is not as good as Uzumaki Kushina married to Konoha.

Ah, except for your Qianshou clan who took the lead, other families who have a bit of history have not given up their original surnames, and none of them have followed. So what is your Qianshou clan giving up the honorary surname that has been used for thousands of years to set an example?

Uplink has no effect, is this a joke?Only your Qianshou family understands righteousness, and other families stick to the old rules, right?
Afraid that the Thousand Hands Clan will expand into nobles?Sorry, the foundation of Konoha's establishment is the politics of the alliance of ninja clans and aristocrats. They have always been nobles, whether they have a surname or not.

Said it was because they were afraid that a certain family would dominate?
Giving up their surnames can cut off their interest collusion?childish!If they want to corrupt or do evil, can you stop them by abandoning your surname?Does Orochimaru have a surname?

You said that the Thousand Hands gave up their surnames, which is a great move beyond the times?Then why didn't the Sarutobi clan give up their surnames?The level of the Sarutobi clan is low?Isn't the Three Generations of Hokage great?If the realm is low, can he abdicate himself to Minato?Isn't it great that he can go to the front line to fight against Orochimaru and die generously?
Of course, the low ability of the three generations of Hokage is a matter of level, and the realm is not low. This is a matter of attitude.

The Sarutobi clan didn't change their surnames, and I didn't see where they swelled or degenerated.Didn't the whole family go to the front line during the Fourth World War?

The three generations of Hokage Sarutobi died in battle by himself, his wife Lake Biwa, his eldest son and daughter-in-law, and his youngest son Asma. They all sacrificed their lives for Konoha. great? ? ?
There is no necessary connection between greatness and giving up the surname, so the saying of "giving up the surname" does not hold at all.

Also, give another example.

Why is Tsunade who didn't put the Senju Clan's surname on the formula book still called "Princess of the Senju Clan" and "Granddaughter of the First Hokage" by everyone as soon as it is mentioned?
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