The system is the king of the counterattack master
Chapter 1020 It's an Extraordinary Means
While Han Xiaodong was communicating with K, Larson had already cleaned up the place he had soiled, and he apologized repeatedly with an embarrassed expression on his face.
Han Xiaodong said it didn't matter, and then asked: "Did I ask something that shouldn't be asked?"
Larson shook his head quickly: "No, no, no."
But he immediately frowned again, as if there was something unspeakable.
"If you have anything to say, just say it. Only with enough transparent information can the case be solved smoothly." Han Xiaodong began to induce the former FBI temporary worker.
"That's right." Obviously struggling for a moment, Larson stroked his bald head and said, "Liam... was interrogated by me."
This is really an unexpected answer. From the conversation with Eriksson this afternoon, Han Xiaodong always thought that Eriksson was interrogating Liam, but now Larson said that the dead student He was the one who interrogated, which really surprised him.
"What... what did you say? You interrogated Liam? Shouldn't it be the local police or Mr. Eriksson who interrogated him?" Han Xiaodong asked a little puzzled.
"You're right, they did the interrogation, but... but I did the interrogation." Larson's voice became softer as he spoke, obviously he still had concerns about this matter.
"I... don't understand very well, can you explain clearly?" Han Xiaodong continued to ask, although he said so, but from Larson's attitude, he already had a bad premonition.
"According to the normal process, Liam should be questioned. After all, we have no direct evidence, and we can't arrest people casually. Moreover, he is Professor Hasten's favorite student, and we don't want to offend the professor because of this, so the questioning part is Follow the normal process."
As Larson spoke, he took a sip of coffee and rubbed his nose vigorously, as if he was preparing for the next words.
"However, this case is very important, and it has alarmed the people above. After all, it is something exported to Germany, and it is also related to the credibility of the laboratory. Therefore, the above very much hopes to find clues as soon as possible. Therefore, during the interrogation... it should be said that In the later stage of the inquiry, they let me go, after all, I have more experience than them in this regard, you know."
Larson spoke hesitantly, and the coffee cup kept rubbing in his hand. Although he didn't say it clearly, the meaning was already very clear—they used torture.
Han Xiaodong looked at Larson in disbelief. He didn't expect that this kind-looking fat man would have such an unknown side.
Seeing Han Xiaodong staring at him in surprise, Larson said with a guilty and embarrassed expression:
"No way, sometimes we can't find any evidence, so we have to use some means. You are still in the bureau for a short time. If you have been in the bureau for a long time, you will also encounter such problems.
It's not just us, the CIA will also do this. It's impossible to not break the rules in interrogation. After all, criminals don't stick their modus operandi on their faces, do they? "
Larson's explanation sounded very feeble, but Han Xiaodong knew that what he said was not wrong.
From a practical point of view, the job of interrogation has no bottom line at all, especially in war zones, where there are more tricks to interrogate, and the torture is simply heinous, and correspondingly, they have achieved good results. .
Of course, this kind of shady method is not always effective. There will always be some special prisoners. Chatting with them is more effective than torture. It depends on the specific situation.
Now is not the time to discuss these, Han Xiaodong picked up the autopsy report on the table again in confusion, flipped through it from the beginning, and asked, "But there is no record in the report."
He was referring, of course, to the marks left on corpses by so-called "unconventional" means.
Larson shook his head and said, "It's impossible to record it, because I didn't move a finger of him. The interrogation doesn't have to be violent, sleep deprivation or waterboarding, and there won't be any scars. Of course, I Not waterboarding him, just depriving him of sleep, which doesn't sound like much, but is actually quite excruciating."
Han Xiaodong has some understanding of sleep deprivation. In China, this routine is called boiled eagle in the old society. It is a very common interrogation method. To put it bluntly, it is a wheel war. question.
Most people can't survive 24 hours, and some people can't survive it for 48 hours.
Although it is true that the tortured tortured the tortured to the ground, those were very extreme cases.Moreover, it has long been forbidden to do this in today's interrogation, which is torture to extract a confession.
Such an interrogation is not allowed under European law, and Liam is not a real suspect. Therefore, it makes sense for Larson to feel that he has used very serious means.
This also shows from the side that this case was very important at the time, and the people above even used torture to extract a confession, but they wanted to get the result, which shows how serious this matter is.
"So you always felt that Liam's death had something to do with you?"
Han Xiaodong seemed to understand why Larson had such a big reaction. It seemed that he was guilty of Liam's death.
Larson didn't answer, but just nodded. His eyes were a little dark, and it seemed that he really couldn't let go of this matter.
Come to think of it, the reason why he helped Han Xiaodong so much was probably just to atone for his sins!
In any case, a mystery was finally solved, although the answer made Han Xiaodong very speechless.
"It is precisely because of this that Liam's case was closed so hastily." Han Xiaodong weighed the files in his hand a little speechlessly.
In fact, excluding the issue of humanitarianism, Han Xiaodong felt that Ao Ying's method would not necessarily have any impact on Liam.He is a severe insomniac, I'm afraid he has already gotten used to this kind of suffering.
And judging from what Larson and Eric Kosen said, the period of forced supply by torture should not have lasted long enough to prevent Liam from committing suicide. These are two completely irrelevant things. , but it obviously had a big impact on Larson.
"Who told you to do this? The police? Or Eriksson?" Although he knew that this matter had nothing to do with the case he was investigating, Han Xiaodong couldn't help but ask one more question.
"It was suggested by the director. Of course, the police also acquiesced. You know, I am just a consultant. If there is a problem, it has nothing to do with them, so..."
Larson didn't say anything further, but the meaning was already obvious.
"How long has he been interrogated?" Han Xiaodong continued to ask.
"From being summoned to the security office to leaving, it took exactly 24 hours. The director and the police questioned him during the day, and I interrogated him at night, but nothing came out. At that time, I felt that he might have been wronged."
Larson said, drank a cup of coffee, his eyes were a little lost.
"One last question, did you search Liam's room before he was killed?"
Han Xiaodong's question pointed to the answer he was most concerned about. Larson thought about it for a while, and then nodded:
"Yes, it was searched by the Security Department. The police cannot enter his room without a search warrant, you understand."
Larson pouted and gave an affirmative answer.
Han Xiaodong said it didn't matter, and then asked: "Did I ask something that shouldn't be asked?"
Larson shook his head quickly: "No, no, no."
But he immediately frowned again, as if there was something unspeakable.
"If you have anything to say, just say it. Only with enough transparent information can the case be solved smoothly." Han Xiaodong began to induce the former FBI temporary worker.
"That's right." Obviously struggling for a moment, Larson stroked his bald head and said, "Liam... was interrogated by me."
This is really an unexpected answer. From the conversation with Eriksson this afternoon, Han Xiaodong always thought that Eriksson was interrogating Liam, but now Larson said that the dead student He was the one who interrogated, which really surprised him.
"What... what did you say? You interrogated Liam? Shouldn't it be the local police or Mr. Eriksson who interrogated him?" Han Xiaodong asked a little puzzled.
"You're right, they did the interrogation, but... but I did the interrogation." Larson's voice became softer as he spoke, obviously he still had concerns about this matter.
"I... don't understand very well, can you explain clearly?" Han Xiaodong continued to ask, although he said so, but from Larson's attitude, he already had a bad premonition.
"According to the normal process, Liam should be questioned. After all, we have no direct evidence, and we can't arrest people casually. Moreover, he is Professor Hasten's favorite student, and we don't want to offend the professor because of this, so the questioning part is Follow the normal process."
As Larson spoke, he took a sip of coffee and rubbed his nose vigorously, as if he was preparing for the next words.
"However, this case is very important, and it has alarmed the people above. After all, it is something exported to Germany, and it is also related to the credibility of the laboratory. Therefore, the above very much hopes to find clues as soon as possible. Therefore, during the interrogation... it should be said that In the later stage of the inquiry, they let me go, after all, I have more experience than them in this regard, you know."
Larson spoke hesitantly, and the coffee cup kept rubbing in his hand. Although he didn't say it clearly, the meaning was already very clear—they used torture.
Han Xiaodong looked at Larson in disbelief. He didn't expect that this kind-looking fat man would have such an unknown side.
Seeing Han Xiaodong staring at him in surprise, Larson said with a guilty and embarrassed expression:
"No way, sometimes we can't find any evidence, so we have to use some means. You are still in the bureau for a short time. If you have been in the bureau for a long time, you will also encounter such problems.
It's not just us, the CIA will also do this. It's impossible to not break the rules in interrogation. After all, criminals don't stick their modus operandi on their faces, do they? "
Larson's explanation sounded very feeble, but Han Xiaodong knew that what he said was not wrong.
From a practical point of view, the job of interrogation has no bottom line at all, especially in war zones, where there are more tricks to interrogate, and the torture is simply heinous, and correspondingly, they have achieved good results. .
Of course, this kind of shady method is not always effective. There will always be some special prisoners. Chatting with them is more effective than torture. It depends on the specific situation.
Now is not the time to discuss these, Han Xiaodong picked up the autopsy report on the table again in confusion, flipped through it from the beginning, and asked, "But there is no record in the report."
He was referring, of course, to the marks left on corpses by so-called "unconventional" means.
Larson shook his head and said, "It's impossible to record it, because I didn't move a finger of him. The interrogation doesn't have to be violent, sleep deprivation or waterboarding, and there won't be any scars. Of course, I Not waterboarding him, just depriving him of sleep, which doesn't sound like much, but is actually quite excruciating."
Han Xiaodong has some understanding of sleep deprivation. In China, this routine is called boiled eagle in the old society. It is a very common interrogation method. To put it bluntly, it is a wheel war. question.
Most people can't survive 24 hours, and some people can't survive it for 48 hours.
Although it is true that the tortured tortured the tortured to the ground, those were very extreme cases.Moreover, it has long been forbidden to do this in today's interrogation, which is torture to extract a confession.
Such an interrogation is not allowed under European law, and Liam is not a real suspect. Therefore, it makes sense for Larson to feel that he has used very serious means.
This also shows from the side that this case was very important at the time, and the people above even used torture to extract a confession, but they wanted to get the result, which shows how serious this matter is.
"So you always felt that Liam's death had something to do with you?"
Han Xiaodong seemed to understand why Larson had such a big reaction. It seemed that he was guilty of Liam's death.
Larson didn't answer, but just nodded. His eyes were a little dark, and it seemed that he really couldn't let go of this matter.
Come to think of it, the reason why he helped Han Xiaodong so much was probably just to atone for his sins!
In any case, a mystery was finally solved, although the answer made Han Xiaodong very speechless.
"It is precisely because of this that Liam's case was closed so hastily." Han Xiaodong weighed the files in his hand a little speechlessly.
In fact, excluding the issue of humanitarianism, Han Xiaodong felt that Ao Ying's method would not necessarily have any impact on Liam.He is a severe insomniac, I'm afraid he has already gotten used to this kind of suffering.
And judging from what Larson and Eric Kosen said, the period of forced supply by torture should not have lasted long enough to prevent Liam from committing suicide. These are two completely irrelevant things. , but it obviously had a big impact on Larson.
"Who told you to do this? The police? Or Eriksson?" Although he knew that this matter had nothing to do with the case he was investigating, Han Xiaodong couldn't help but ask one more question.
"It was suggested by the director. Of course, the police also acquiesced. You know, I am just a consultant. If there is a problem, it has nothing to do with them, so..."
Larson didn't say anything further, but the meaning was already obvious.
"How long has he been interrogated?" Han Xiaodong continued to ask.
"From being summoned to the security office to leaving, it took exactly 24 hours. The director and the police questioned him during the day, and I interrogated him at night, but nothing came out. At that time, I felt that he might have been wronged."
Larson said, drank a cup of coffee, his eyes were a little lost.
"One last question, did you search Liam's room before he was killed?"
Han Xiaodong's question pointed to the answer he was most concerned about. Larson thought about it for a while, and then nodded:
"Yes, it was searched by the Security Department. The police cannot enter his room without a search warrant, you understand."
Larson pouted and gave an affirmative answer.
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