After hearing Zhu Tao's words, Zhu Yuanzhang also felt a little confused, so he stopped talking immediately.

"Tao'er, don't talk nonsense, you're waking up again, right? Our Great Ming is rich in all nations, and we can still give some things to small countries."

Zhu Tao bowed to Zhu Yuanzhang very seriously, and then said.

"Your Majesty, my Ming Dynasty has not reached the point where I am not short of money. Otherwise, we would not need to issue national debt to officials and people to implement our voyage plan. Since we are not that rich, why should we count it as not enough money?" A lot of money is used to reward Fanbang and small countries!"

Huang Guan still wants to continue to argue a few words, after all, this matter is the responsibility of the Ministry of Etiquette, if he does not speak, it can basically be regarded as inaction.

"King Dingyuan, this kind of thing has always been custom-made. If Xiabang pays tribute to us, Ming Dynasty must have a great reward. This also shows that we have the courage of a big country."

Zhu Tao glanced at him with disdainful eyes, and said.

"Da Ming is rich in all nations, how can you have the face to say such a thing? I remember that two years ago, there were a large number of victims in the suburbs of Beijing. At that time, I took out 8000 taels of silver, countless cotton-padded cotton cloth, and money, food and steamed stuffed buns to help the disaster. It’s not me who did this, I’m afraid it’s not just the capital that’s been smeared.”

When Zhu Yuanzhang heard Zhu Tao's words, his face was covered with black lines, and he thought about such a shameless thing, what do you think he is doing?Isn't this smearing Lao Tzu's face.

But he had to admit that what Zhu Tao said was right, after all, there wasn't that much money in Daming's treasury.

If you really have money, wouldn't it be better to spend it on the national economy and the people's livelihood, and on the common people? Why should it be rewarded to these foreigners?

Therefore, Zhu Yuanzhang did not speak, but Zhu Tao still looked aggressive, looking at Huang Guan and saying.

"I, the people of Ming Dynasty have provoked whom. The taxes they pay are to enrich the treasury of Daming and make the country rich and strong. This money is not for you to use to swell your face and make you fat! I just said that your Ministry of Rites is another Being mean and shameless, is there something wrong with what I said?"

After saying these righteous words, the genius who scored six yuan in a row was directly stunned. He wanted to refute something, but he couldn't say a word.

From the bottom of his heart, Huang Guan also believed that what Zhu Tao said was right, but this was not in line with the etiquette system.

This time, the Minister of the Ministry of Rites was so humiliated that he could hardly speak a word, so he had to stand aside obediently and stop talking.

At this time, Li Shanchang, who was the second assistant of the cabinet, also stood up, and he pulled the corner of Zhu Tao's clothes and said.

"Prince Dingyuan, please don't say a few words about this matter. After all, there is a fixed system, and some things cannot be said that way."

At this time, Zhu Tao said with a look of disdain.

"No matter what the rules are, they are all made by people. As long as they are unreasonable, they must be changed. Many rules of the court have been changed. Why can't this kind of thing be changed!"

For Zhu Tao, Li Shanchang naturally admired him very much, but he had no choice but to say something.

"However, after all, His Majesty has made this rule. If it is changed, it will make His Majesty lose face. After all, the Son of Heaven is a golden man."

Unexpectedly, Zhu Yuanzhang had been listening to their debate, and said loudly at the last clap.

"Stop arguing. We have thought about this matter carefully. What Tao'er said is very reasonable. Unreasonable rules need to be changed."

These ministers are completely dumbfounded. Even if you love Zhu Tao, I'm afraid you can't be like this.

Could it be that the rules of the imperial court can be changed as soon as they are changed, just because Zhu Tao said a few words of opposition.

But Zhu Yuanzhang's tone suddenly softened again, and said to Zhu Tao.

"Tao'er, you are still young, and you still don't quite understand some things. Although the national strength of these small neighboring countries is not as strong as that of Ming Dynasty, if you repeatedly violate the border, it is also a problem of Ming Dynasty. The things we reward them are actually trying to win them over. It was an act of desperation."

It is very rare for Zhu Yuanzhang to patiently explain the truth to Zhu Tao.

You must know that if other ministers were replaced, Emperor Hongwu probably didn't have the patience. If it made sense, he would say it. If it didn't make sense, he would be pulled out and beheaded with a high probability.

At this time, seeing that Zhu Yuanzhang had already talked about this, Li Shanchang hurried out to smooth things over.

"Prince Dingyuan, it seems that this matter really needs a long-term discussion, so you should stop talking about it, let's talk about it later, if you have time, you can come to the cabinet's valet, and the old minister will discuss it with you."

Li Shanchang can be regarded as the big brother among the founding dukes and the actual head of the cabinet. His words are actually very weighty.

But Zhu Tao didn't take it seriously at all. He even dared to stand up to Zhu Yuanzhang, let alone the cabinet minister.

"Blindly wooing them has no effect at all. Suppression is the real one-and-done solution. As long as you scare them all, there will be absolutely no follow-up problems."

Zhu Yuanzhang sighed. It seems that Zhu Tao is still young, and it is by no means so simple to wield a weapon lightly, even if it is against a small country.

"Tao'er, you really don't know much about these things, so don't worry too much."

Zhu Tao thought about it, and felt a little superficial, but he suddenly remembered a trick, so he said.

"Father, although my son has a method, but I don't know if it will be practical. Tell me, and let's discuss it together."

Zhu Yuanzhang laughed out loud. He didn't expect that Zhu Tao, who had always been conceited, would be so humble, which made everyone a little uncomfortable.

"Okay, if you have something to say, you still hide it, just say no."

Zhu Tao nodded, and then said.

"We can carry out cultural invasions against them, that is to say, we can export all the sage books and psychology and philosophy of our great Ming to these small countries, let them learn our culture, and the scholars in these countries can be certified by Ming, Only in this way can they really enjoy themselves in their country, and then they will fully recognize our Ming Dynasty, and there will be no more swordsmen."

As soon as this strategy came out, both Zhu Yuanzhang and the ministers present were all dumbfounded. After all, there is no precedent for such a thing, and who knows if it will be successful.

After listening to Zhu Tao's words, Huang Guan stood up again and said.

"There is no precedent for this matter. Since this is the case, it is not as convenient as a reward. I don't think it is so troublesome. Just reward the money."

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