1991 Starting from the core
Chapter 610 The choice of next generation light source
The atmosphere suddenly cooled down at this moment.
Vincenti is over sixty this year, and his hair and beard have turned gray. After a brief moment of shock, anger suddenly rose.
He stood up, braced his hands on the edge of the table, and glared at Stanley.
"Am I to take it that you are making an accusation against Texas Instruments?"
Stanley did not flinch: "I'm not accusing you, I'm just confessing a fact. That is, you understand how much help you have provided to the mainland's telecore!"
"You're talking nonsense!" Carly said angrily: "After Xinghai was established in Yuanxin, you said we would provide help?"
Stanley smiled coldly: "Who is the largest shareholder of Xinghai?"
"It's Xinghai Fund." Before Carly could answer, Stanley continued: "Who is the largest shareholder of Xinghai Fund?"
"It doesn't matter who the major shareholder of Xinghai is." Carly glared at Stanley and said word by word: "I'm just telling you that Xinghai Technology is a company headquartered in Silicon Valley and abides by the laws of this country. Its chairman and more than four-quarters of Three-thirds of the employees are domestic citizens, and the rest are Silicon Valley companies with legal permanent residency.”
"All our cooperation with Yuanxin Technology is based on mutual benefit and compliance with relevant legal regulations. I hope you understand this."
After Carly finished speaking, she stood up and walked out of the office neatly.
With Carly's anger, Vincenti calmed down.
He frowned and stared silently at this technocrat in the Ministry of Energy, who was known for his strength and obviously had a Cold War mentality. After a few seconds, he slowly said: "Mr. Stanley, your arbitrary exaggeration is very KGB-like." Style.”
Stanley shrugged, saying that he didn't mind the comment at all.
At this time, Zhang Rujin suddenly said leisurely.
"Mr. Stanley, I would like to ask a question."
"It is well known that copper has a lower resistance than aluminum, so it can carry more current in a smaller area. In large-scale integrated circuits, if today's aluminum wires are replaced with copper wire technology, denser transistor designs can be achieved. Improve chip performance. At the same time, copper's resistance to electromigration is better than aluminum, so the reliability of the processor will also be greatly improved."
Zhang Rujin knew that the other party was a technocrat and knew these things well, so he did not deliberately explain it, but directly asked: "Texas Instruments has realized the copper wire process. Do you think this process should be licensed to us?"
Stanley was startled for a moment, then smiled, and then looked at Vincenti: "Have you realized the copper wire process?"
Vincent didn't even bother to pay attention to him.
Zhang Rujin smiled slightly: "We, Deyuan Semiconductor, have achieved the best copper wire technology at present, which is much better than IBM's."
Stanley's smile froze instantly.
"And we are willing to license it to Deyi."
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The establishment of the EUV Alliance undoubtedly shows the attitude of the Department of Energy or the government. That is, technology must be in your own hands.
Su Yuanshan was different, he just wanted to disgust those people.
What's more, compared with Yuanxin's next immersion technology, the copper wire process is far from the core.
Copper wire technology can only give Deyuan a temporary lead. In addition, Deyuan's current production capacity is mainly concentrated on YX architecture and flash memory. The X86 processor, which has the most urgent demand for copper wires, has no production capacity due to market reasons and cannot play a big role. big effect.
Therefore, it is a cost-effective thing to authorize Deyi and let Deyi and Xinghai join forces to disgust the AI two companies and at the same time step on the two foundries on the island that want to get up.
In fact, due to Yuanxin's long-term persistence in poaching people, the island has lost many engineers. So much so that the community here in Deyuan Science and Technology Park is called Little TW - most of the community is composed of engineers from the island.
Su Yuanshan flew directly from the capital to Shanghai.
…
"Dr. Liang, I am a complete layman in fab manufacturing technology."
Su Yuanshan and Liang Mengsong were walking under the grape corridor of the Science and Technology Park - Zhang Rujin saw that Yuanxin had done a good job on the grape corridor, so he deliberately copied it. In addition, there is a legend that you can hear the Cowherd and the Weaver Girl talking under the grape trellis. The soothing effect of the engineers on the island was unexpectedly good.
Su Yuanshan found a shady place and sat down with Liang Mengsong, and said with a smile: "So I won't do the same thing."
"No, Mr. Shan's proficiency in all fields is well known to the world." Liang Mengsong said calmly: "We still hope that Mr. Shan can point out the direction."
"I really don't dare - but if we talk about directions, there is only one."
"Deyuan's manufacturing process is given priority, and there is no need to consider any other factors. Even if it is listed in the future, we must consider this and that, and we must unswervingly follow this path - if you like the stock, buy it, if you don't buy it, you will be pulled down. The worst is the repurchase of Deyuan .”
Liang Mengsong licked his lips, and a feeling of heat rose up in his body.
——Everyone in the factory said that he is a technical madman, but his madness is really just a child's play in front of Mr. Shan.
"Mr. Shan, this is what you said." Liang Mengsong laughed: "Processing is very expensive."
"What are you afraid of spending money on? As long as you are one step ahead in the key processes, you will make money back. The fab is a winner-take-all industry. Whoever masters the advanced processes will have the pricing power of high-end chip foundry. "
Liang Mengsong nodded, of course he knew that it would be increasingly difficult to advance the manufacturing process in the future, and the investment requirements would also be greater - of course the rewards would certainly be generous enough.
But Yuanxin still has a problem.
"Mr. Shan, what if there is a ban on the sale of photolithography machines...?"
Speaking of the lithography machine, Su Yuanshan immediately fell silent.
EUV has been established as in the historical trajectory - ASML, a small Dutch company, finally entered the EUV alliance after signing an almost selling contract.
It is conceivable that in the next few years, ASML will quickly catch up with Nikon and Canon technically and complete the technical concept of EUV as it has historically.
But what is different about the historical trajectory is that the key team that ASML completed to surpass Nikon and Canon is currently in the hands of Su Yuanshan.
"As long as domestic lithography machines are still catching up, the sales ban will not happen." Su Yuanshan pursed his lips and looked silently at a building in the distance - that is the laboratory where the joint team of Lin Benjian and Zhao Kaidong is located.
"And we have always had technical support and cooperation with various photolithography machine companies. Under this intertwined relationship, unless Deyuan is clearly targeted, it will not happen."
Liang Mengsong is not good at these "big chess". He just needs to know that if Su Yuanshan says he can't, then he doesn't have to worry.
Moreover, Deyuan is indeed a friendly customer of Nikon. After the signing of the WA agreement last year, the domestic semiconductor industry has been in turmoil for a long time. Nikon also specially arranged a construction period for this... It was later proven that in addition to strengthening inspections, Nikon also strengthened inspections. It did not interfere with Deyuan's order.
"Anyway, let's see. The more advantageous our technology is, the more bargaining power we have." Su Yuanshan stood up and walked towards the laboratory ahead.
…
"Uncle Lin, Uncle Zhao."
Seeing the two of them standing at the door at the same time, Su Yuanshan quickly stepped forward to shake hands, and Liang Mengsong also stepped forward to say hello.
Seeing Liang Mengsong following Su Yuanshan, Lin Benjian was fine. Zhao Kaidong was slightly startled - Zhang Rujin was not here at this time. According to the rules, the person responsible for receiving and accompanying Su Yuanshan should obviously be Deyuan's second-in-command...
In terms of position, Liang Mengsong can only be ranked fifth behind Deyuan.
With this posture, it seems that Su Yuanshan is really determined to push for a breakthrough in the manufacturing process.
After sitting down in the reception room, Su Yuanshan briefly asked about the current progress - in the field of light sources, because of the addition of Lin Benjian, Zhao Kaidong's team is making rapid progress, and they are about to complete the 193nm excimer laser light source technology.
Although it lags behind its foreign counterparts by almost a year, it has finally caught up. And judging from the existing technology and theory, 193nm will become a light source that cannot be broken through for a long time. Otherwise, the lighthouse country would not have established an EUV alliance and found a new way out.
Of course, in addition to EUV, there are other solutions for how to cross 193nm. For example, Nikon and SVG are preparing to conquer the 157nm HeF2 laser, as well as electron beam projection (EPL), ion projection (IPL), and even X-ray, etc...
In short, there are a lot of solutions and there are only roads as far as the eye can see.
But no one knows which one is the true right path.
Well, only Su Yuanshan knows.
Because these plans were all defeated by the cheerful old man in front of him.
"Uncle Lin, Uncle Zhao, what are your thoughts after 193nm?" Su Yuanshan sat on the sofa and took a sip from his tea cup.
Zhao Kaidong and Lin Benjian looked at each other, then smiled and said: "193nm seems to be staying for a long time, are you so anxious?"
"I wasn't in a hurry at first." Su Yuanshan said frankly: "The main reason is that the United States is doing EUV, which makes me a little panicked."
Zhao Kaidong smiled and shook his head: "Although the light source is much ahead of the lithography machine, the 193nm light source has not yet been used in the lithography machine, so it is useless for you to panic."
"As for the next generation light source, Lao Lin and I are actually not very optimistic about 157nm, because the HeF2 laser can be said to completely overturn the existing optical system. Not only will the objective lens need to be re-developed, but the photoresist will also need to be re-developed... The most important thing is , the wavelength step improvement is not significant, and the input-output ratio is too high.”
"EUV sounds very good, and it is a bit like the next generation of light sources. But look at the posture of the EUV Alliance... it is not something that our small workshop can complete."
Su Yuanshan smiled and said: "With you two here, our laboratory is not a small workshop."
"Haha, whether it is true or not, but doesn't the designer have a saying? Crossing the river by feeling the stones... Since someone has crossed the river in front of us, we might as well just cross the river by feeling the stones." Zhao Kaidong said with a smile: "Intel is not Have you attracted so many companies? You can also attract one."
Su Yuanshan: "..."
He finally understood that Zhao Kaidong meant that he should also establish an EUV alliance.
Su Yuanshan wanted to do it, but if he did it now, it would not be led by Yuanxin, but everyone would work for the Ni people.
So he looked at Lin Benjian.
"Uncle Lin? Do you have any tricks?"
(Note: Although it is a bit boring, but... I still have to write it after all...)
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